US mulls revoking recognition of transgender people

[spudea]

the article can't even keep its terms right. The law says sex discrimination, not gender discrimination. And its the loony left that will be the first to tell you that sex and gender are different concepts, so if you want the law to say something else you have to win elections and change the law!

[KEEF]

Do they have a Y chromosome?

Whatever you think about those with abnormal genetics they can be an exception maybe, this is the main rule.

Y chromosome or SRY gene? You’d be surprised what those two major flushes of testosterone can do during embryogenesis.

[thoughtomator]

Any transgender who is actually serious about it and not play-acting for fun ought to be thrown out of a helicopter. These people are dangerously insane.

[Swordsmyth]

Y chromosome or SRY gene? You’d be surprised what those two major flushes of testosterone can do during embryogenesis.

The SRY gene is found on the Y chromosome.

https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/gene/SRY

[UWDude]

.....goes a lot farther than insults & name-calling.

Goes a lot further towards what goal? Changing people's minds? If so, you are hardly the one to be dishing out advice on the subject. Being honest about your beliefs goes a lot further than trying to use persuasive rhetoric.

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[jmdrake]

Any transgender who is actually serious about it and not play-acting for fun ought to be thrown out of a helicopter. These people are dangerously insane.

GID is indeed a mental disorder, but we don't kill people with mental disorders just because "they might be dangerous." There is no indication that GID is dangerous. There is treatment. The real problem is that the doctors are not allowed to actually treat GID because of political correctness.

This belongs here.

[jmdrake]

Yes, in half of the cells of their body. In the other half, no.

Link?

Whatever you think about those with abnormal genetics they can be an exception maybe, this is the main rule.

Here is a "main rule" that covers everything. It's the North Carolina rule that the left freaked out about. You are identified by whatever is on your birth certificate. Say if you are truly intergender and your birth certificate got it "wrong" by saying you're a woman when you really identify as a man. Okay. Pick one, change your birth certificate (that is allowed) and stick with it. Same if you were born fully as a man but you have GID. The medical community should be brought to heel for their unethical practice of not allowing GID to be treated as a mental disorder. That said, based on our current environment, transgenders are allowed to change their birth certificate. So...if that's really what you want to do, then change your B.C. None of this "use the bathroom of whatever gender you feel like at the moment" crap.

[Zippyjuan]

Should we care what sex somebody wants to call themselves? Or should the government say what they can and can't do?

[dannno]

Should we care what sex somebody wants to call themselves? Or should the government say what they can and can't do?

Zippy, you are completely ass backwards wrong as usual.

Nobody here cares what sex somebody wants to call themselves. If somebody wants to say they are an ostrich, nobody here gives a flying $#@!. It is when this "ostrich" tries to use the force of law to tell me that I must consider them an ostrich that is the problem.. or specifically, when some weirdosexual comes into your store or restaurant and sues you because you won't let them use the little girl's room, because they identify as a little girl..

Everybody sees through your bull$#@! shtick..

Also for athletic competitions held by schools, which are public institutions, boys should not be able to identify as females in order to dominate the field.

[Zippyjuan]

Zippy, you are completely ass backwards wrong as usual.

Nobody here cares what sex somebody wants to call themselves. If somebody wants to say they are an ostrich, nobody here gives a flying $#@!. It is when this "ostrich" tries to use the force of law to tell me that I must consider them an ostrich that is the problem.. or specifically, when some weirdosexual comes into your store or restaurant and sues you because you won't let them use the little girl's room, because they identify as a little girl..

Everybody sees through your bull$#@! shtick..

Also for athletic competitions held by schools, which are public institutions, boys should not be able to identify as females in order to dominate the field.

It should be up to the organization putting on the athletic competition to decide who they allow to compete.

Should we have "bathroom police" to make certain people use the proper facilities?

[timosman]

Should we care what sex somebody wants to call themselves? Or should the government say what they can and can't do?

I have no problem with Zippy calling himself a libertarian. Everybody knows it's BS but that's OK.

[dannno]

It should be up to the organization putting on the athletic competition to decide who they allow to compete.

In the case of schools, the organization is the government...

Should we have "bathroom police" to make certain people use the proper facilities?

Is that even remotely close to what I said?

I'll give you a hint.. no

Your antics suck.

[Dr.3D]

I have no problem with Zippy calling himself a libertarian. Everybody knows it's BS but that's OK.

Maybe he's a trans libertarian.

[Zippyjuan]

In the case of schools, the organization is the government...



Is that even remotely close to what I said?

I'll give you a hint.. no

Your antics suck.

So you don't care which bathroom they use. Good.

[dannno]

So you don't care which bathroom they use. Good.

Property owners should not be FORCED by the government to allow perverts to use whatever bathroom they want..

Trump is on the libertarian side of this issue here. People can CALL themselves whatever they want, but they can't force their personal decision on other people.

Trump's new mandate helps protect property owners. It also helps schools and their athletic programs ban trans girls from dominating girls sports.

[Swordsmyth]

It should be up to the organization putting on the athletic competition to decide who they allow to compete.

And the government was trying to do it by forcing people to recognize the trannies assertions.

Should we have "bathroom police" to make certain people use the proper facilities?

We should have police that respond if a store owner calls because a weirdo refuses to follow his rules and is scaring his customers.

[Zippyjuan]

Property owners should not be FORCED by the government to allow perverts to use whatever bathroom they want..

Trump is on the libertarian side of this issue here. People can CALL themselves whatever they want, but they can't force their personal decision on other people.

Trump's new mandate helps protect property owners. It also helps schools and their athletic programs ban trans girls from dominating girls sports.

Both Trump and Obama offered "guidance" on the issue- not any laws mandating anything.

Libertarians should let them do whatever they want a long as they are not hurting somebody else.

Bathrooms do not require government regulation. How often is it a problem that somebody uses the "wrong one"? Are trannies taking over America's bathrooms? Corrupting our morals and destroying America? Should we send in the military to protect them? Why are people getting so excited over a pointless issue?

[Swordsmyth]

Both Trump and Obama offered "guidance" on the issue- not any laws mandating anything.

Libertarians should let them do whatever they want a long as they are not hurting somebody else.

Bathrooms do not require government regulation. How often is it a problem that somebody uses the "wrong one"? Are trannies taking over America's bathrooms? Corrupting our morals and destroying America? Should we send in the military to protect them? Why are people getting so excited over a pointless issue?

[dannno]

Both Trump and Obama offered "guidance" on the issue- not any laws mandating anything.

Libertarians should let them do whatever they want a long as they are not hurting somebody else.

Bathrooms do not require government regulation. How often is it a problem that somebody uses the "wrong one"? Are trannies taking over America's bathrooms? Corrupting our morals and destroying America? Should we send in the military to protect them? Why are people getting so excited over a pointless issue?

Why don't you make posts that are relevant to what people are discussing? Do you just copy and paste pre-scripted comments?

I keep saying property owners should get to decide, and government shouldn't force them to let people use whatever bathroom they want. You keep twisting that into bathrooms and government regulation.. you're the one on the side of regulation, you want trannies to be able to sue property owners if they don't let them use whatever restroom they want..

[KEEF]

https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/gene/SRY

Not always, see how Klinefelter’s Syndrome occurs during cross-over

[thoughtomator]

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These guys have been bending your site guidelines over for years now... and you have happily let them do so.

Shall we revisit the anti-Trump jihad conducted by members who are still present and posting? Where they target-harassed everyone who wasn't on board with the hate-Trump madness?

Sorry man, but your rules are a joke and it's because you let the rulebreakers run rampant to the point where they own your forum now.

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[TheCount]

Link?
You are the one diving down a rabbit hole of detail to avoid discussion.

"It is possible for birth certificates to be wrong" and "it is possible for genetic testing to be wrong" is not much detail at all. If that's overwhelming then I'm not sure you can handle more.

No it doesn't.

Yuh huh.

Yes it does, nobody cared much compared to many other more important issues until government got involved pushing insanity as reality, Trump is just setting things back where they belong and always used to be.

Birth certificates could never be corrected?

[TheCount]

Sorry man, but your rules are a joke and it's because you let the rulebreakers run rampant to the point where they own your forum now.

Says the guy whose post advocating the murder of an entire group of people is on the same page as this complaint.

Any transgender who is actually serious about it and not play-acting for fun ought to be thrown out of a helicopter. These people are dangerously insane.

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