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    Kushner, Ivanka Trump made at least $82 million in outside income while serving in White House

    Since the draining of swamp by MAGA, free markets seem to be functioning like a well oiled machine.
    There are no reports that they got any money directly from the alleged butcher dictator who is bieing accused of torturing/dismembering/killing WaPo journalist or earned it as part of their outside work as human rights anti-nepotism champions.







    Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump made at least $82 million in outside income last year while serving in the White House, filings show


    Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump together collected tens of millions in outside income while serving in the White House last year. (Michael Reynolds/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock)

    By Amy Brittain ,
    Ashley Parker and
    Anu Narayanswamy

    Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, the president’s daughter and son-in-law, brought in at least $82 millionin outside income while serving as senior White House advisers during 2017, according to financial disclosure forms released Monday.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...569_story.html




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    Why is this news? The article uses the term "potential conflicts of interest" yet fails to identify any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Why is this news? The article uses the term "potential conflicts of interest" yet fails to identify any.
    There are obvious swampy red flags when taxpayers paid White House advisors conduct private business while travelling the world, meeting world/busines leaders that go beyond usualy cronyism, nepotism charges and are newsworthy.

    Facts about dim-witted Trump lawyer Michael Cohen making millions as "advisor" to various companies seeking to buy access to POTUS didn't come out till pornstar Stormy payment scandal exploded. There has been consistent chatter about these alleged influence peddlers including from the inner most circles of White House:


    Steve Bannon: “You’ve got the LeBron James of money laundering investigations on you, Jarvanka. My a--hole just got so tight!”
    https://twitter.com/variety/status/9...903936?lang=en


    In a Beijing ballroom, Kushner family pushes $500,000 ‘investor visa’ to wealthy Chinese


    The event was hosted by the Chinese company Qiaowai, which connects U.S. companies with Chinese investors. (Emily Rauhala/The Washington Post)
    By Emily Rauhala and William Wan May 6


    Donald Trump's China Tariffs Don't Apply to Ivanka
    fortune.com
    Jul 9, 2018 - Donald Trump's China Tariffs Don't Apply to Ivanka ... Clothing and shoes, like those imported by Ivanka Trump's company, were spared.


    Ivanka Trump Clothing Brand Just Won New Trademarks in China
    fortune.com
    May 29, 2018 - Ivanka Trump is on a trademarking frenzy in China. The first daughter's brand has been granted 13 new trademarks in China ...







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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    There are obvious swampy red flags when taxpayers paid White House advisors
    Both Jared and Ivanka are unpaid advisors and both resigned themselves from control of their business interests. Michael Cohn swindling other companies by falsely advertising himself as having some sort of control over Trump, without Trumps knowledge, is not cronyism.
    Last edited by spudea; 10-19-2018 at 03:56 PM.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    After, becoming “unpaid” advisers to Ivanka’s father, President Donald Trump, Ivanka and Jared Kushner made a total income of between $82 million and $222 million in 2017, compared to $89 to $201 million in 2016.
    That’s an average of $225 to 608 thousands dollar per day in 2017!
    The couple’s real estate holdings and other investments went from $761 million in 2016 to $811 last year.

    The biggest single transaction for the Kushner couple was in September, when Quail Ridge purchased residential real estate in Plainsboro, New Jersey for $5-25 million.

    Last month, Kushner Companies made Brookfield Asset Management an offer they can’t refuse for financing the 666 Fifth Avenue in Manhattan (remember the earlier Qatar blockade?)…
    Brookfield Asset Management is partly owned by the Qatar government: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/b...investing.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Both Jared and Ivanka are unpaid advisors and both resigned themselves from control of their business interests. Michael Cohn swindling other companies by falsely advertising himself as having some sort of control over Trump, without Trumps knowledge, is not cronyism.
    Did not know that were serving as White House advisors without getting paid, that's amazing dedication to serving the American public and putting America First.
    Have to say will need to temper views towards Jarvanka faction of GOP if their services like below were free of charge.






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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/01/05/mcmaster-jarvanka-dina-powell-backed-sending-up-to-7k-troops-to-afghanistan/










    That said, critics may still find following newsworthy reports fishy:


    Report:
    Qataris Wouldn’t Finance Kushner Property


    Report:





    Jared Kushner Backed Qatar Blockade a Month After Qataris Wouldn’t Finance His Property: Report

    3/2/18
    The report concerning Qatar adds to controversy surrounding Kushner’s government work, business dealings and any conflicts between them.
    Officials from the United Arab Emirates, China, Israel and Mexico have privately talked about how they could use Kushner’s lack of foreign policy experience and business interests as leverage.

    https://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushn...roperty-828847




    The Kushners Are Finally Getting That Sweet, Sweet Qatari Cash
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...ookfield-qatar
    May 17, 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Did not know that were serving as White House advisors without getting paid, that's amazing dedication to serving the American public and putting America First.
    Have to say will need to temper views towards Jarvanka faction of GOP if their services like below were free of charge.
    "Free of charge"

    Kushner’s Family Business Received Loans After White House Meetings

    Apollo, the private equity firm, and Citigroup made large loans last year to the family real estate business of Jared Kushner, President Trump’s senior adviser.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/b...oup-loans.html
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    This thread is interesting, it started as @enhanced_deficit pointing blame to Ivanka profiting off of her dad's presidency and ended with rumors Ivanka convinced her dad to bomb Syria as some form of proof that she purposely profits financially from the presidency. Look if you actually had an argument, you wouldn't need to change the subject to re-enforce the original point.

    Is every cent that the Trump brand generates, a result of the presidency?

    If Ron or Rand was president, would every cent they generate be the result of the position? guilt by simple association?
    Rand Paul : Ultimately, if someone's going to accuse you of something that's going to bring down a presidency, I think we deserve to know who that person is.
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What a grotesque embarrassment Rand has become
    Ron Paul : If you're accused of a crime, you have the right to face your accuser.
    So if Rand Paul holds the same exact position as his father, it makes him embarrassing?

    Hmmm...ok r3volution 3.0



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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Look if you actually had an argument, you wouldn't need to change the subject to re-enforce the original point.
    Did he really?!? Is it wrong to criticise the crooked gang surrounding President Donald?
    I thought that the point @enhanced_deficit was/is making (starting in the OP), that the couple Kushner has been receiving bribes, kickbacks from the Middle East (possibly Saudi Arabia, UAE and/or Qatar).

    Is it unreasonable to assume that forces that support the war on Syria (Erik Prince has also proposed some interesting solutions to that “problem”) have financially supported Jared and Ivanka?

    Not in this thread (yet) are the more than $100 billion in arms sold to Saudi Arabia, or that mercenaries of Erik Prince (of Blackwater notoriety, and the brother of Trump’s education secretary Betsy DeVos) are helping the UAE commit mass murder in Yemen.

    From the article I posted earlier:
    Ethics experts have warned that this continued activity could raise questions of possible conflicts of interest.
    “We don’t have insight into who is buying and selling stuff, so we don’t know if it’s market value,” said Virginia Canter, the executive branch ethics counsel at Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, and a White House associate counsel in the Obama and Clinton administrations.
    “Who is financing these transactions?” Ms. Canter asked. “Is it some unknown L.L.C.? How do we know it isn’t a sovereign wealth fund from Saudi Arabia or some other place?”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/b...investing.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    After, becoming “unpaid” advisers to Ivanka’s father, President Donald Trump, Ivanka and Jared Kushner made a total income of between $82 million and $222 million in 2017, compared to $89 to $201 million in 2016.
    So they may have made less this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    So they may have made less this year?
    The disclosures are in amount ranges; maybe you could complain that we can't get a closer estimate from "public sources" than "between $82 million and $222 million in 2017, compared to $89 to $201 million in 2016"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    The disclosures are in amount ranges; maybe you could complain that we can't get a closer estimate from "public sources" than "between $82 million and $222 million in 2017, compared to $89 to $201 million in 2016"...
    My point was, if you can't even show they made more than last year, how can you claim they are benefiting financially from their positions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    My point was, if you can't even show they made more than last year, how can you claim they are benefiting financially from their positions?
    I for one agree that we don’t need more detailed information on the precise amount they made in 2016 and 2017 to know that something is very wrong.
    I will even go one step further and proclaim that if the system wasn’t rigged there would be no billionaires (would such a theory destroy the American dream?).

    I guess your point isn’t that in advance of Donald Trump being crowned president that the happy couple Kushner already got huge amounts of cheap “loans” from George Soros, Peter Thiel, Deutsche Bank and Blackstone? Which shows that the "rewards" from the Trump, Kushner syndicate already started long before Donald became president.
    The CEO of the Blackstone Group (controlled by Baron Jacob Rothschild), Stephen A. Schwarzman, was rewarded by Donald Trump to become chairman of the “Strategic and Policy Forum”. He joined Donald and Kushner on their trip to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The Saudi promise to invest in Blackstone’s fund drove the Blackstone’s stock up more than 8%.
    The Trump, Kushner family has also invested in Blackstone funds.

    Another nice affair is that Kushner Companies got more than $500 million in “loans” from 2 companies, Apollo Global Management and Citigroup, shortly after Jared Kushner met high executives of those companies at the White House...

    At the time Trump became president of the United States, he owed Deutsche some $300 million (guess who controls the family?).
    On 9 June 2016, Kushner and co met attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya. Kushner has promised to recuse himself from any case involving Deutsche Bank. Prevezon and its partners “loaned” $90 million from Deutsche Bank.
    Kushner claims that he didn’t know that Veselnitskaya represented Prevezon Holdings in the money laundering case that also involved Deutsche Bank.

    Israel is one of 4 countries that reportedly discussed how to exploit the business interests of Jared Kushner.
    Jared Kushner had an unsecured line of credit for as much as $5 million from the Bronfman controlled Israel Discount Bank in 2017. In 2018, this has jumped to a maximum of $25 million.

    Kushner Companies also received at least 4 “loans” from Bank Hapoalim, Israel’s largest bank, which is under investigation of the US Department of Justice for helping US citizens evade taxes through undeclared accounts through its Swiss division: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-15bn-mortgage
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