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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    Why?
    Typically, legalization means government control and regulation, whereas decriminalization means, no government control or regulation at all.

    Drugs should be decriminalized. It should be none of the business of government what people wish to ingest into their own bodies.



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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Yeah but I watched some interviews recently where he was being anti war and I had some hopes but his whole perspective on the role of government is upside down.
    He is fairly anti-war, I'll give him that.

    But he's also a violent opponent of the market economy and individual liberty.

    ...and, even on war, he rarely criticizes the current (GOP) adminstration's policies.

    ...kind of like how the Dems criticized Bush's wars (until Obama arrived and did the exact same thing, at which point the cat got their tongues).

    Tucker Carlson wants a king kind of like you.
    ...?

    He's constantly bitching about how we don't have "true democracy."

    Apparently, in his view (or script), the problem is that the illiterate rabble don't have enough influence.

    This is why, for instance, the government hasn't yet created a Dept. of Social Media to regulate Tucker's arch-enemies..
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  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    He is fairly anti-war, I'll give him that.

    But he's also a violent opponent of the market economy and individual liberty.

    ...and, even on war, he rarely criticizes the current (GOP) adminstration's policies.

    ...kind of like how the Dems criticized Bush's wars (until Obama arrived and did the exact same thing, at which point the cat got their tongues).



    ...?

    He's constantly bitching about how we don't have "true democracy."

    Apparently, in his view (or script), the problem is that the illiterate rabble don't have enough influence.

    This is why, for instance, the government hasn't yet created a Dept. of Social Media to regulate Tucker's arch-enemies..
    Maybe he just wants people to vote for a king, He wants people not to want to be free, that's why he advocates against liberty.

  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Maybe he just wants people to vote for a king
    Given his regular paeans to democracy, and claims that the lack of it is the cause of all our problems, I can't imagine why you'd think that.

    He wants people not to want to be free, that's why he advocates against liberty.
    FOX pays good money for people to advocate against liberty, without appearing to do so; I'd say he's just supplying demand.
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  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    Tucker says Republicans (?) want to make it easier for your kids to smoke weed, because hey "freedom". And Democrats are in total agreement.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djv_neI6n_4



    My question is, what the heck is Tucker smoking lately?

    I'm still trying to figure out what Tucker is talking about when he says the Republican elites are "resolutely libertarian" and they support cannabis legalization. It is true that a majority of Republican voters now support legalization, but among Republican politicians it is still pretty rare and especially within the Republican "leadership class". I don't know what he is referring to... maybe Mitch McConnell's newfound love for hemp but that is a totally different thing, lol.

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out what Tucker is talking about when he says the Republican elites are "resolutely libertarian" and they support cannabis legalization. It is true that a majority of Republican voters now support legalization, but among Republican politicians it is still pretty rare and especially within the Republican "leadership class". I don't know what he is referring to... maybe Mitch McConnell's newfound love for hemp but that is a totally different thing, lol.
    I think he is talking about John Boehner and all of the people investing into Marijuana because its a huge industry that is helping the economy grow and giving people jobs and Tucker Carlson obviously loves people to be homeless.



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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I think he is talking about John Boehner and all of the people investing into Marijuana because its a huge industry that is helping the economy grow and giving people jobs and Tucker Carlson obviously loves people to be homeless.
    yeah he could be talking about Boehner but someone should tell Tucker he hasn't been in office since 2015, lol.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Typically, legalization means government control and regulation, whereas decriminalization means, no government control or regulation at all.

    Drugs should be decriminalized. It should be none of the business of government what people wish to ingest into their own bodies.

    That's not how the term is most commonly understood though, at least in the context of cannabis policy. Cannabis in considered to be decriminalized in 15 states but I guarantee you are less free in those states than ones that have legalized. In most legalization states you can grow at least a half dozen plants in your home but in a lot of decriminalization states growing only a few plants still counts as a felony.

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Typically, legalization means government control and regulation, whereas decriminalization means, no government control or regulation at all.

    Drugs should be decriminalized. It should be none of the business of government what people wish to ingest into their own bodies.
    Actually in most cases, decriminalization refers to decriminalization of possession. That can mean a fine for possession as opposed to jail time and a criminal record, but still mean hard time for growing or selling.

    Legalizing is a bit better in that sense, because possession, growing and distribution all have legal channels and no fines or criminal penalties for adults who possess it.

    Total decriminalization of the plant would be awesome, but that is not what cannabis decriminalization typically refers to.
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  11. #99
    Tucker is actually right on this issue.
    When junkies started using the dopes they have no self control on them, they become addicted, this is becoming a problem now in Canada and in some cities in Canada. With Junkies walking on the streets and tripping down. During day time.

  12. #100
    Sometimes I think I'm the last person in the U.S. that doesn't smoke anything, drinks maybe once a year, and takes no prescription meds.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    Sometimes I think I'm the last person in the U.S. that doesn't smoke anything, drinks maybe once a year, and takes no prescription meds.
    There are millions of us Mormons, you'd fit right in.
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  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Tucker is actually right on this issue.
    When junkies started using the dopes they have no self control on them, they become addicted, this is becoming a problem now in Canada and in some cities in Canada. With Junkies walking on the streets and tripping down. During day time.
    Thankfully drunks never did that.
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  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Tucker is actually right on this issue.
    When junkies started using the dopes they have no self control on them, they become addicted, this is becoming a problem now in Canada and in some cities in Canada. With Junkies walking on the streets and tripping down. During day time.
    Marijuana is less addicting than caffeine, it only affects you for half as long, and just because you smoke marijuana it doesn't make you more likely to do another drug except for the mindset of wow this didn't hurt me I wonder if the government is lying about the other stuff too.

    You could stop that from happening instantly, over night, by being honest and not classifying it the same as cocaine, or heroin. Just because you don't approve of someone doing something that doesn't mean you should put them in jail for it, and ruin their lives more or shut down industries that are helping local economies grow. In my city (Las Vegas) it has been a boon to the economy.

    President Obama directed people to stop going to Las Vegas, Trump had a mass shooting in Las Vegas, it has been a blessing for us. All of these empty businesses all over town, empty buldings are now full of people working, that would not have a job otherwise. Places in town that have had empty buildings for 5 and even 10 years are opening up.
    Last edited by nikcers; 06-06-2019 at 06:00 AM.

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  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    yeah he could be talking about Boehner but someone should tell Tucker he hasn't been in office since 2015, lol.
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  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There are millions of us Mormons, you'd fit right in.
    Prescription pill use (and abuse) is the accepted alternative to alcohol for LDS members,
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  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Prescription pill use (and abuse) is the accepted alternative to alcohol for LDS members,
    It's not supposed to be but yes we have that problem as bad as the rest of society, I saw a story the other day that said something like 2/3rds of Americans were on prescription meds within the last year.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 06-06-2019 at 02:09 PM.
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  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's not supposed to be but yes we have that problem as bad as the rest of society, I saw a story the other day that said something 2/3rds of Americans were on prescription meds within the last year.
    Big Pharmakeia..

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  23. #110
    He may be on to something. Legalization and government involvement aside, Marx once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

    What then would cannabinoids and opiates be?


    You gotta stay aware of what's going on. Doping yourself up doesn't help.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    He may be on to something. Legalization and government involvement aside, Marx once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

    What then would cannabinoids and opiates be?


    You gotta stay aware of what's going on. Doping yourself up doesn't help.
    So we should ban reilgion, got it.

  25. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    He may be on to something. Legalization and government involvement aside, Marx once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

    What then would cannabinoids and opiates be?


    You gotta stay aware of what's going on. Doping yourself up doesn't help.
    Especially when we know former politicians like John Boehner and Bill Weld stand to make millions off legalization of cannabis.
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  27. #113
    Cannabis is NOT dangerous.

    The only reason it is illegal is because Big Corps talked DC into making it evil because they didn't want to compete with hemp, which is the most amazing plant on the earth. It makes materials stronger than steel, oil, cotton, canvas, etc. and does not destroy the soil. Hemp is NOT a drug, so calling it's sister plant by it's Mexican nickname "marijuana" made it sound "evil" to the populace & everyone fell for the lie.

    The most dangerous thing marijuana does is make people laugh a lot. And, no, I don't indulge but I know people who have been saved by it.
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  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Cannabis is NOT dangerous.

    The only reason it is illegal is because Big Corps talked DC into making it evil because they didn't want to compete with hemp, which is the most amazing plant on the earth. It makes materials stronger than steel, oil, cotton, canvas, etc. and does not destroy the soil. Hemp is NOT a drug, so calling it's sister plant by it's Mexican nickname "marijuana" made it sound "evil" to the populace & everyone fell for the lie.

    The most dangerous thing marijuana does is make people laugh a lot. And, no, I don't indulge but I know people who have been saved by it.
    A lot of the reason why its illegal is because the deep state didn't want to lose funding or have their budgets cut. Being anti legalization is basically like being pro deep state for some people. For other people it has something to do with Lumber, someone on reddit admitted they were against Ron Paul because a corporation paid them to campaign against Ron paul because legalization would make their industry lose profits.

  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Cannabis is NOT dangerous.

    The only reason it is illegal is because Big Corps talked DC into making it evil because they didn't want to compete with hemp, which is the most amazing plant on the earth. It makes materials stronger than steel, oil, cotton, canvas, etc. and does not destroy the soil. Hemp is NOT a drug, so calling it's sister plant by it's Mexican nickname "marijuana" made it sound "evil" to the populace & everyone fell for the lie.

    The most dangerous thing marijuana does is make people laugh a lot. And, no, I don't indulge but I know people who have been saved by it.
    This^^

    Cannabis is non toxic.
    As in,,, it contains no Toxin..

    Intoxication requires a Toxin. Cannabis does not therefore intoxicate..

    The Euphoric sensation is the healing of the Brain.. Increased Synaptic Response.. etc..

    The very opposite of Dumbing Down.
    and it also prevents the Later Dumbing down of Alzheimer.

    so the only dumb ones are opposing it.. People who can not tell the difference between Poison and NOT POISON.
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  30. #116
    Legalization = Loss of revenue for local, county and state governments, police departments, lawyers, judges, etc. A significant demographic that would trample your rights to protect their jobs, salaries and/or pensions.

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    Sometimes I think I'm the last person in the U.S. that doesn't smoke anything, drinks maybe once a year, and takes no prescription meds.
    You're not alone. I'm pretty much the same way.
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  32. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    So we should ban reilgion, got it.
    He may be on to something. Legalization and government involvement aside, Marx once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

    What then would cannabinoids and opiates be?


    You gotta stay aware of what's going on. Doping yourself up doesn't help.
    Reiterated. What I'm saying is that I've never seen anyone smoke a joint and suddenly be invigorated to fight against tyranny. I think a lot of people get high/drunk/wasted because they don't want to (or can't) deal with problems. It's one thing to have your S%*^ together and want to get high. It's another thing if you want to get high instead of getting your S^*@ together. Nothing I am saying is to be construed as support for banning the stuff. I would approach it more like a friend giving advice.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 06-06-2019 at 07:30 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Elliot's The Hollow Men

  33. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Reiterated.
    Why,,

    Phuck the Dumb $#@!..

    Cannabis is not an Opioid... and in Every place that cannabis has been legalized so far... Opioid scripts drop,,,deaths drop,, by 25% according to statistics..

    It is far healthier pain relief without debilitating side effects.
    Came as a surprise to me too.. and cut my daily Aspirin intake to 0.

    It is a Gift from God.. Prohibition and Propaganda opposing this gift are Pure Evil.. and the results are easy to see..

    Oh Yeah,, Phuck You.. Some of us have been in this fight since the 70s.
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  34. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Tucker isn't a small government person, never has been.

    He's an economically illiterate, vaguely socially conservative TV character who says nice things about the GOP in exchange for money.
    His defense of free speech in the age of censorship is pretty patriotic.



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