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T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Originally Posted by Philhelm
Endocannabinoids: A Promising Impact for Traumatic Brain Injury
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5314139/
Cannabis Therapeutics and the Future of Neurology
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6200872/
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Science is proving it with every test.
https://www.sciencealert.com/marijua...ein-from-brain
As far as a "drug" it is about the same level as Caffeine.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Originally Posted by Philhelm
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Do you realize that alcohol and cannabis have completely different, almost polar opposite effects on people?
I'm not saying you have to do it, I'm just saying you should probably be less judgmental of those who do.
Toking herb doesn't make you stupid, it makes you more open minded, creative and better able to solve problems. It increases your body's ability to experience various sensational inputs.
Drinking doesn't make you more open minded, it can make you more sociable, though. I enjoy alcohol on occasion, usually at night. In moderation. I don't use it to avoid responsibilities. That is what alcoholics do.. people who have to drink all day, or when they drink they have to drink to excess. Alchohol is an intoxicant and should be treated as such. However it moderation it can also have longterm health benefits. Cannabis is not an intoxicant, because, as pcosmar likes to say, it is not toxic to the body in any way, shape or form.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Originally Posted by Philhelm
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
A private enterprise restricting access to its own property isn't censorship in the sense relevant to the 1st Amendment.
...which applies only to government action.
It's an exercise of property rights.
But I guess respect for property rights is the old libertarianism.
The new libertarianism doesn't let such silly anachronisms stand in the way of true progress, does it?
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I am not like most libertarians in that I think my data or my communications is my speech. They lobbied for net neutrality and the right to have a platform that they can't get sued for what people post on it, I think its more than fair for me to not get censored. Especially since they are shadowbanning people who buy ads from them, I think that is fraud.
Whether FB users' submissions of data to the platform is "speech" for 1st Amendment purposes isn't relevant.
The 1st Amendment does not apply to FB; nothing FB does could possibly violate the 1st Amendment.
Why do you think they should be liable for what people post on their platform?They lobbied for net neutrality and the right to have a platform that they can't get sued for what people post on it
Again, you're not getting censored in the 1st Amendment sense.I think its more than fair for me to not get censored.
Then sue them for fraud (as opposed to calling for the government to crush them because they use their property in a way that displeases you).Especially since they are shadowbanning people who buy ads from them, I think that is fraud.
Yea, I get the gist; you think FB is part of this shadowy cabal which you've come to blame for everything that's wrong in the world.
If that's your whole argument (which I guess it is since you didn't address any of the issues I raised), there's not much left to say.
I'll just ask this; if you don't trust FB (<-- evil cabal member), why do you trust the feds (<-- not evil cabal member?) to regulate FB?
I don't trust anyone, I just don't want to be kicked out of the debates. 2008 was the facebook election, 2012 was the tea party revolution that I actually found politics that cured my apathy. I found it on a bumper sticker that said google Ron Paul. 2016 was the twitter election. You can't pretend like people who aren't to the right of Obama aren't getting deplatformed everywhere. They attacked me at my work because of my political beliefs until I quit, they are going after people in real life. I don't think we will ever gain any sort of momentum if we get pushed into the dark web.
State regulation of social media violates libertarian principles - this is not seriously debatable.
Now, if you want to do it anyway, in pursuit of some greater libertarian good (ends justify the means), that's fine.
I'm very amenable to that kind of logic.
However, in this case, I see no end to justify the means.
First, as I mentioned in the last post, there's no reason to think that a state regulated FB would be more libertarian-friendly than the current one.
Second, for the time being, FB is actually doing libertarians a favor by targeting the alt-right, who are by far our most serious political obstacle.
....because, unlike the Dems or "Establishment Republicans," they don't just compete, they also co-opt.
So, no, I'm not seeing any greater libertarian good that would justify the regulation of FB.
Facebook would have trending topics and after the debates Rand Paul would be trending and they would remove him off the trending topics. They would use social media trending topics in the msm as a litmus test or to gauge who won the debate, or who people are talking about. It was essentially a shadow ban, people would talk about Rand Paul on facebook and they would make sure no one could see it. It only got leaked out because conservatives that worked for facebook blew the whistle and after that they started firing conservatives from places like facebook. it's happening all over the place and since they have all of our meta data they can go after anyone who is against their liberal agenda. They are shutting people up because they can't debate our ideas, its the very same reason why they kicked Ron Paul out of the debates censored him on the MSM and there was a meme that the only way you could find out who Ron Paul is was by googling him.
Try it Tucker you might like it.
They specifically mentioned Rand Paul?
...because, otherwise, it sounds like there's isn't much evidence that they actually did anything.
I wouldn't surprise me if they did, but couldn't it just be that he was trending, and then he wasn't?
Also, I'll ask again, what makes you think that the federal government (big fan of libertrians...) would regulate FB in our favor?
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
They mentioned all types of people at the time,
Trending topics appear in the upper-right corner of the Facebook website, separate to the main news feed, and are said to be chosen to “help people discover current content that is both popular in the world and meaningful to them”.Facebook workers routinely suppressed news stories of interest to conservative readers from the social network’s influential “trending” news section, according to a former journalist who worked on the project. This individual says that workers prevented stories about the right-wing CPAC gathering, Mitt Romney, Rand Paul, and other conservative topics from appearing in the highly-influential section, even though they were organically trending among the site’s users.
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