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    Tucker Carlson: Marijuana legalization is a socialist conspiracy to dumb down America

    What happened to Tucker? He sounds like a nutjob in this video and seems to have abandoned his libertarian principles.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDvQsfQvS4Y



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    "Don't give me that personal freedom garbage."

    - Tucker Carlson

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    Tucker lost me .
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    I don't think anything "happened" to Tucker. He just hasn't come around on this issue yet.

    It doesn't fit in with his mostly-well-reasoned segments though.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Off the rails bull$#@!.
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    As is regularly pointed out on this forum, Trump is an idiot, a liar, and regularly uses bloated exaggeration so why would anyone put much stock into what he says? I think it's easy to figure Trump out. Sorry you are still confused.
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    The problem with all these host is that they are always pandering, and Tucker thinks this is what his audience wants to hear. There a very few who are willing to take a hit in their ratings to stand by their principles. It might be fun to watch Tucker go after liberals and you might like how he defends Trump, but you would be a fool to think he is any different than a Beck, Limbaugh, or Hannity.

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    ...annnnnd HE'S GONE!

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
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    He's right but he doesn't realize the grand plan of dumbing down people is already backfiring.

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    Tucker Carlson is a socialist conspiracy to dumb down America.
    Last edited by CCTelander; 10-19-2018 at 08:56 AM.
    Chris

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    I thought his news network and its competitors were part of a conspiracy to dumb down america

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    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...uana-malarkey/

    Tucker Carlson’s Marijuana Malarkey
    written by adam dick friday october 19, 2018



    In August, Tucker Carlson declared at his Fox News show that it would be an act of war on the United States for the Mexico government to cease engaging in a war on heroin. Carlson even supported his wacky conclusion by pointing to drug overdose deaths in America, despite those deaths in fact being multiplied because of the US war on drugs. On Wednesday, Carlson was back at his show spouting drug war nonsense — this time expressing his dread of marijuana legalization that kicked in this week countrywide in Canada potentially spreading throughout America.

    The nonsense starts in the first words Carlson states in his introduction of guest Mason Tvert of the Marijuana Policy Project. Carlson begins: “Well Canada has become just the second country in the history of the world to fully legalize the sale of marijuana as well as the recreational consumption.” The inclusion of the phrase “in the history of the world” gives the impression that prohibition has been the norm throughout world history, from thousands of years BC until Uruguay legalized marijuana sales in 2017. Carlson would need look no further than his own country of America to see the ridiculousness of this suggestion. From the founding of the Unites States government in the 1700s through the early 1900s, the national government did not prohibit the sale or use of marijuana. In fact, it did not prohibit the sale or use of other now-illegal drugs such as cocaine either.

    Next up, Carlson dwells on the danger that marijuana “makes people less likely to act” and “more passive.” Of course, that is not true across-the-board as marijuana use can help people see things in a new way, leading to innovations in how they act in the future. Think of it as a form of brainstorming aid. It can also serve as rejuvenating relaxation and distraction, as can taking a break from work and chores to listen to music or play a sport. Nevertheless, assuming that Carlson’s assessment is correct, it would just as well be an argument for making illegal many other activities, such as watching a TV sitcom, taking a walk, or playing a card game.

    One thing Carlson seems to be trying to argue is that legalization leads to a bunch of people turning into Cheech-and-Chong-style full-time “stoners.” As Tvert responds to Tucker, “that’s like saying everyone who enjoys a cocktail after work with their friends is a lush.” And even if marijuana use makes some people less productive, that is how freedom operates. With freedom, someone can choose to become an overachieving business dynamo or to be mellow, taking time to smell the roses and, maybe, eat a marijuana brownie.

    Where Carlson’s comments may be most outrageous in the interview is when he responds to Tvert’s statement that “hundreds of thousands of Americans are arrested every year for marijuana.” Responds Carlson: “No, no one in most places is arrested for a joint.” Here are the numbers Tom Angell at Marijuana Moment derived from US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) data: 659,700 marijuana arrests in America in 2017, accounting for 40.4 percent of drug arrests that year and made up mostly of arrests for mere marijuana possession, instead of for selling or growing the plant.

    Further, if Carlson’s declaration that Americans are not being arrested for possessing marijuana were true, that would undercut his primary assertion that keeping marijuana illegal is needed to prevent the marijuana zombie apocalypse.

    Watch Carlson’s complete interview with Tvert here:

    Same video as OP....http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...uana-malarkey/
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    As is regularly pointed out on this forum, Trump is an idiot, a liar, and regularly uses bloated exaggeration so why would anyone put much stock into what he says? I think it's easy to figure Trump out. Sorry you are still confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...uana-malarkey/

    Tucker Carlson’s Marijuana Malarkey
    written by adam dick friday october 19, 2018



    In August, Tucker Carlson declared at his Fox News show that it would be an act of war on the United States for the Mexico government to cease engaging in a war on heroin. Carlson even supported his wacky conclusion by pointing to drug overdose deaths in America, despite those deaths in fact being multiplied because of the US war on drugs. On Wednesday, Carlson was back at his show spouting drug war nonsense — this time expressing his dread of marijuana legalization that kicked in this week countrywide in Canada potentially spreading throughout America.

    The nonsense starts in the first words Carlson states in his introduction of guest Mason Tvert of the Marijuana Policy Project. Carlson begins: “Well Canada has become just the second country in the history of the world to fully legalize the sale of marijuana as well as the recreational consumption.” The inclusion of the phrase “in the history of the world” gives the impression that prohibition has been the norm throughout world history, from thousands of years BC until Uruguay legalized marijuana sales in 2017. Carlson would need look no further than his own country of America to see the ridiculousness of this suggestion. From the founding of the Unites States government in the 1700s through the early 1900s, the national government did not prohibit the sale or use of marijuana. In fact, it did not prohibit the sale or use of other now-illegal drugs such as cocaine either.

    Next up, Carlson dwells on the danger that marijuana “makes people less likely to act” and “more passive.” Of course, that is not true across-the-board as marijuana use can help people see things in a new way, leading to innovations in how they act in the future. Think of it as a form of brainstorming aid. It can also serve as rejuvenating relaxation and distraction, as can taking a break from work and chores to listen to music or play a sport. Nevertheless, assuming that Carlson’s assessment is correct, it would just as well be an argument for making illegal many other activities, such as watching a TV sitcom, taking a walk, or playing a card game.

    One thing Carlson seems to be trying to argue is that legalization leads to a bunch of people turning into Cheech-and-Chong-style full-time “stoners.” As Tvert responds to Tucker, “that’s like saying everyone who enjoys a cocktail after work with their friends is a lush.” And even if marijuana use makes some people less productive, that is how freedom operates. With freedom, someone can choose to become an overachieving business dynamo or to be mellow, taking time to smell the roses and, maybe, eat a marijuana brownie.

    Where Carlson’s comments may be most outrageous in the interview is when he responds to Tvert’s statement that “hundreds of thousands of Americans are arrested every year for marijuana.” Responds Carlson: “No, no one in most places is arrested for a joint.” Here are the numbers Tom Angell at Marijuana Moment derived from US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) data: 659,700 marijuana arrests in America in 2017, accounting for 40.4 percent of drug arrests that year and made up mostly of arrests for mere marijuana possession, instead of for selling or growing the plant.

    Further, if Carlson’s declaration that Americans are not being arrested for possessing marijuana were true, that would undercut his primary assertion that keeping marijuana illegal is needed to prevent the marijuana zombie apocalypse.

    Watch Carlson’s complete interview with Tvert here:

    Same video as OP....http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...uana-malarkey/

    Yet another media shill for the state. Color me shocked ... not.
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    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    It seemed like Tucker was proposing that marijuana is a Brave New World-style Soma conspiracy by the government.

    He did say that he is against prohibition, and doesn’t want to make it illegal, but by the end, it was hard to tell what he was actually proposing. Best I could determine, he wants to keep it illegal but not enforce the law?

    He was a bit inconsistent on that one...
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    Tucker's in it for the money.
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    Tucker definitely lost this argument big time.
    Tucker: Yes its still illegal but “No, no one in most places is arrested for a joint.” It is criminal but not enforced, and we should keep it criminal but not enforce it. - that's just bizarre.
    As Adam Dick point out in the RPI article, he is also blatantly wrong about not being enforced, 659,000 arrests last year alone:
    the numbers ... from US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) data: 659,700 marijuana arrests in America in 2017, accounting for 40.4 percent of drug arrests that year and made up mostly of arrests for mere marijuana possession ...
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    Elon Musk, inventor of Tesla, SpaceX, etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Can we stop taking Tucker Carlson seriously now?
    I dunno, his perpetually raised eyebrows facial outrage expression is probably best in the biz right now. Don't think he should be ditched completely... unless him and Ann Counter with hardcore GOP conservatives ended up ditching MAGA.

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    As I've posted many times, the only reason marijuana became illegal was to make hemp illegal.

    Big Corps colluded w/the government to get rid of hemp because it was stronger & better than steel, cotton etc. and can also make oil, w/o destroying the environment. Gov gave cannabis the Mexican nickname of "marijuana" to make it sound more evil to 'Murikans.

    The WoD came about to support the alphabets; drugs are a prime source of income "an' they don' like no competition".

    Cannabis is truly valuable & can help with many physical & mental issues.The worst things that can come from marijuana is more laughter & a relaxed atmosphere.
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    Lightbulb Election season shuck 'n jive

    It's election season so acting stupid is mandatory to retain sponsors and keep his job.



    Beer good, weed bad
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    More Pimping-For-Paul-esque propagandist bull$#@!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It seemed like Tucker was proposing that marijuana is a Brave New World-style Soma conspiracy by the government.

    He did say that he is against prohibition, and doesn’t want to make it illegal, but by the end, it was hard to tell what he was actually proposing. Best I could determine, he wants to keep it illegal but not enforce the law?

    He was a bit inconsistent on that one...
    To say the least.

    Having never read Brave New World, I was unaware of Soma.

    https://www.drugs.com/soma.html

    What is Soma?
    Soma (carisoprodol) is a muscle relaxer that blocks pain sensations between the nerves and the brain.

    Soma is used together with rest and physical therapy to treat skeletal muscle conditions such as pain or injury.

    Soma should only be used for short periods (up to two or three weeks) because there is no evidence of its effectiveness in long term use and most skeletal muscle injuries are generally of short duration.
    I wonder where they got their name?
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    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Tucker's in it for the money.
    Bingo.

    He'll do and say what he's told to by the people that pay him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Tucker Carlson is a socialist conspiracy to dumb down America.
    Well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It seemed like Tucker was proposing that marijuana is a Brave New World-style Soma conspiracy by the government.

    He did say that he is against prohibition, and doesn’t want to make it illegal, but by the end, it was hard to tell what he was actually proposing. Best I could determine, he wants to keep it illegal but not enforce the law?

    He was a bit inconsistent on that one...
    It does temporarily alter dopamine levels, which leads to much greater problems with heavy use. Look, it's people who the abuse the hell out of this garbage. It's not the drug's fault. It's like any substance. Too much consumption usually creates harmful effects.
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    OxyContin would probably be the closet thing we have today to Huxley’s soma. Will Tucker do a segment about that?
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    OxyContin would probably be the closet thing we have today to Huxley’s soma. Will Tucker do a segment about that?
    Have you taken Soma the muscle relaxant?

    It's been almost 20 years since I tried it, but it's pretty powerful.
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  34. #30
    Weed makes people "passive, stupid, and less likely to revolt"

    We wouldn't want that
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