Trump threatens to seal U.S.-Mexico border over migrant caravan. Can he do it?

[Swordsmyth]

Joe Arpaio, the former Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona suggested the deployment of the United States military deep inside Mexico to stop the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants from reaching the U.S.

Arpaio was specifically addressing the caravan of several thousand reportedly transiting through Central America and heading toward the U.S. border.
He posited that the Trump administration could coordinate with Mexico and Central American countries regarding the potential deployment of U.S. forces to aid as far as Mexico’s border with Guatemala.
“You get in touch with the Mexican government and say that we are willing to help you with the U.S. Army across the border,” Arpaio told Breitbart News in an interview. “Let’s work together. You have the army everywhere else working in foreign countries. What is wrong with (sending the military to) Mexico? I mean they should work with us.”
“They should be locking them up as they enter Mexico from these Central American countries. Now if they would like the U.S. Army on the border of Central America and Mexico I am sure the government will help.”
“Send the military deep into Mexico,” he added.

More at: https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...rant-caravans/

[enhanced_deficit]

The Wall just 10 feet higher? ( last reported height was 140 feet)





President Trump Threatens Mexico If Caravan Of 3000 Honduran Migrants Reaches U.S. Border | TIME

Trump threatens to seal U.S.-Mexico border over migrant caravan. Can he do it?

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He could but insiders might not allow him to do that if consevative firebrand Coulter's assertion is correct:

Coulter explains. “They’re probably worried that Trump will be removed within the next few years. They had just gone to the McCain funeral, and [the op-ed] was right after Labor Day, so they were probably feeling wistful for the Hamptons. And the only way they can get back in is if they can say, ‘Don’t worry, we’re the ones who stopped the wall.’”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ann-co...-jared-kushner



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[devil21]

Joe Arpaio, the former Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona suggested the deployment of the United States military deep inside Mexico to stop the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants from reaching the U.S.

Arpaio was specifically addressing the caravan of several thousand reportedly transiting through Central America and heading toward the U.S. border.
He posited that the Trump administration could coordinate with Mexico and Central American countries regarding the potential deployment of U.S. forces to aid as far as Mexico’s border with Guatemala.
“You get in touch with the Mexican government and say that we are willing to help you with the U.S. Army across the border,” Arpaio told Breitbart News in an interview. “Let’s work together. You have the army everywhere else working in foreign countries. What is wrong with (sending the military to) Mexico? I mean they should work with us.”
“They should be locking them up as they enter Mexico from these Central American countries. Now if they would like the U.S. Army on the border of Central America and Mexico I am sure the government will help.”
“Send the military deep into Mexico,” he added.

More at: https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...rant-caravans/

Do you support that?

[Ender]

No it is not.

This is an invasion, organized by enemies of the United States, politically motivated to carry out a political and military objective.

It is an act of war.

So, by all means, he has the authority:

Article II

Section 2

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States

Article IV

Section 4

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion

This caravan from Honduras is a direct consequence of the US meddling in Honduras for decades, The US is the invader.

Just like Iran, the US staged a coup & also have military all over country, including bases. The US uses Honduras as an access to many other countries it is meddling in and constantly overthrowing.

The crime & poverty growth in Honduras is a direct result of US invasion.

[Anti Federalist]

This caravan from Honduras is a direct consequence of the US meddling in Honduras for decades, The US is the invader.

Just like Iran, the US staged a coup & also have military all over country, including bases. The US uses Honduras as an access to many other countries it is meddling in and constantly overthrowing.

The crime & poverty growth in Honduras is a direct result of US invasion.

Yes it is, I won't argue with that, the US has been monkey $#@!ing Central America for over a century now.

That does not change the fact that this is an invasion, or call it a "counter offensive", organized by enemies of the United States, for the purpose of achieving a political and military objective.

My point being, that this is not an "organic" action of people fleeing poverty or political tyranny, but rather an organized offensive.

I have many shipmates from Honduras, and to hear them tell it, things are pretty good there, actually.

The Executive has not only the right but the constitutional duty to act in order to stop it.

[Ender]

Yes it is, I won't argue with that, the US has been monkey $#@!ing Central America for over a century now.

That does not change the fact that this is an invasion, or call it a "counter offensive", organized by enemies of the United States, for the purpose of achieving a political and military objective.

My point being, that this is not an "organic" action of people fleeing poverty or political tyranny, but rather an organized offensive.

I have many shipmates from Honduras, and to hear them tell it, things are pretty good there, actually.

The Executive has not only the right but the constitutional duty to act in order to stop it.

When he brings the troops home, closes bases, gives people back their countries and stops the WoD and the WoT, I'll trust him & .gov.

Until then?

NO.

[TheCount]

@Zippyjuan

What if he deploys the troops on the Mexican side of the border?

What are they going to do about it?

And here we have the statist, deep in his natural habitat, advocating the invasion of yet another country on the orders of the president without the approval of congress.


Please, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to take pictures of the statist, disable the flash on your camera; they startle easily and can be quite aggressive.

[Swordsmyth]

Do you support that?

No.

[Swordsmyth]

And here we have the statist, deep in his natural habitat, advocating the invasion of yet another country on the orders of the president without the approval of congress.


Please, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to take pictures of the statist, disable the flash on your camera; they startle easily and can be quite aggressive.

If they are going to facilitate an invasion of our country we can step a few feet onto their side of the border to stop it.

[Swordsmyth]

Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray said on Friday that the country will face the challenge of responding to a migrant caravan that U.S. President Donald Trump has insisted must be halted before it reaches the U.S. border.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...source=twitter

[TheCount]

If they are going to facilitate an invasion of our country we can step a few feet onto their side of the border to stop it.

If you do it on their side of the border it's a military action. If it's on our side it's law enforcement. Take your pick.

You're still a statist either way.

[Swordsmyth]

If you do it on their side of the border it's a military action. If it's on our side it's law enforcement. Take your pick.

You're still a statist either way.

If done at the border it isn't domestic law enforcement but if liberals like you try to claim it is then we can step across the border to fulfill the Constitutional mandate to protect the states from invasion.

And you are a globalist and a communist.

[TheCount]

If done at the border it isn't domestic law enforcement

Which side of the border will the migrants be on when you stop them?

[Swordsmyth]

Which side of the border will the migrants be on when you stop them?

They won't be "inside" because they will have been stopped in the act of entering.

[TheCount]

They won't be "inside" because they will have been stopped in the act of entering.

Which side will they be on when you shoot them? Inside or outside?

Onto which side will their bodies fall?

[phill4paul]

If you do it on their side of the border it's a military action. If it's on our side it's law enforcement. Take your pick.

You're still a statist either way.

Wrong. If you do it on their side of the border it is called a Trans National Joint Venture on Crime. Reciprocity for aid.

[TheCount]

Wrong. If you do it on their side of the border it is called a Trans National Joint Venture on Crime. Reciprocity for aid.

Preserving our national sovereignty by entering into international law enforcement agreements?

I presume that we'll also agree to allow Mexican law enforcement to enforce their laws on American soil.

[phill4paul]

Preserving our national sovereignty by entering into international law enforcement agreements?

I presume that we'll also agree to allow Mexican law enforcement to enforce their laws on American soil.

Presume all the $#@! ya want. The fact is that our government can enter into agreements with other countries through treaties. Article II, Section 2, Clause 2. There are also congressional-executive agreements and executive agreements. Article I, Section 10.

I understand that to an anarchic globalist, such as yourself, this Constitution stuff is hard for you to understand. That can be remedied by reading and understanding it. I haven't actually taken this course myself, but for your edification, http://lp.hillsdale.edu/constitution...SABEgJCq_D_BwE

[TheCount]

an anarchic globalist, such as yourself

[phill4paul]

[Anti Federalist]

Which side will they be on when you shoot them? Inside or outside?

Onto which side will their bodies fall?

Whichever way the wind is blowing.

The response is the same if you were invading my home.

Don't want to get shot?

Then $#@! off back to wherever you came from.

[phill4paul]

Whichever way the wind is blowing.

The response is the same if you were invading my home.

Don't want to get shot?

Then $#@! off back to wherever you came from.

It really is ^^^THAT^^^ simple.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

And here we have the statist,....

Ah yes; the one-trick-pony shows up. If you're going to shout statist, then start with yourself. You're an extreme progressive. You're a Democrat. You voted for Obama twice. You voted Hillary 2016. You're on this site on behalf of the Open Society Foundations.

If I am wrong on any of this, then refute it.

[Danke]

Ah yes; the one-trick-pony shows up. If you're going to shout statist, then start with yourself. You're an extreme progressive. You're a Democrat. You voted for Obama twice. You voted Hillary 2016. You're on this site on behalf of the Open Society Foundations.

If I am wrong on any of this, then refute it.

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[Anti Federalist]

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[Anti Federalist]

Because that's what an invading army does: carries their standard before them.

[eleganz]

I always thought it was a commonly accepted fact with the libertarian crowd that you can't have a welfare state and open borders.

Well we already have a welfare state.

So.....

Why don't we just let in more people?

[Swordsmyth]

Speaking in Scottsdale, Arizona yesterday, Trump said he “appreciated very much” Mexico’s efforts to stop the caravan.

“If that doesn’t work out, we’re calling up the military — not the (National) Guard — we’re calling up the military,” he told reporters. “They’re not coming into this country.”

More at: https://www.malaymail.com/s/1684902/...-turn-back-mou

[devil21]

I always thought it was a commonly accepted fact with the libertarian crowd that you can't have a welfare state and open borders.

Well we already have a welfare state.

So.....

Why don't we just let in more people?

Actually, the libertarian position has always been open borders. It was once the libertarian movement was absorbed mostly into the GOP that suddenly libertarians became border enforcement advocates.

No matter what you personally believe, a border is an imaginary line drawn on a map meant to induce tribal notions that lead tribes to engage in wars. I believe that people generally self-segregate into groups of people that are like them, if left to their own devices, but the use of borders and countries is for little more than claiming ownership over people (see: British empire) and motivating them to attack other groups of people on behalf of the owners by claiming the other group is a "threat". This theme repeats throughout history. "Go fight 'em over there so we don't have to fight 'em here!" It's still used today. Once the notion of "borders" no longer serves that purpose and all the lands of the planet are under the control of the owners (almost there!), "borders" will be eliminated from the maps and thus revealed to be the imaginary invention they always were.

[TheCount]

Whichever way the wind is blowing.

The response is the same if you were invading my home.

Don't want to get shot?

Then $#@! off back to wherever you came from.

Do you shoot them after they step onto your property or before?