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  1. #31
    The study “Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?” by Gary S. Goldman and Neil Z. Miller found a direct statistical correlation between higher vaccine doses and infant mortality rates.
    It concluded a 4250% increase in foetal deaths according to Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) data when comparing 3 consecutive influenza seasons.

    A Rice University study predicted that this fall’s flu vaccine will likely have the same reduced efficacy as in 2016 and 2017 due to viral mutations related to vaccine production in eggs.
    pEpitope has predicted that the efficacy will be only some 19” against the most common type of influenza A in the US, H3N2, in the past 2 years.

    Hugh Fudenberg claims that if a person had 5 flu vaccinations between 1970 and 1980 he/she is 10 times more likely to get Alzheimer’s disease than with only 1 or 2 flu shots. According to Fudenberg this is caused by the aluminium and mercury in (almost) every flu vaccine: https://www.naturalblaze.com/2018/10...ine-myths.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And here’s where I will disagree with the standard propaganda from the Insurance-Medical-Media complex. Most flus and colds are airborne. Hand washing is no help for them. Hand washing is important to avoid fecal borne disease. Hand washing is important in that respect.
    Ok - perhaps this is true. In this case then, wouldn't the most effective defense be mechanical filtration (mask)? Why are they not promoting that - its less invasive, more effective, and cost much less.

    Also, you do agree that hand washing would reduce a contact transmission of the disease? Despite the most common transmission of the flu being airborne, it is communicable through surface contact - thats still a fact right? So washing one's hands reduces the potential of flu infection, while reducing many other infections as well.

    As for the media/medical/pharma industrial complex hysteria, what are they pushing the hardest? The mask? Which approach would yield more proffits - hand washing, a mask, or the shot? I mean, the same people who will tell you to wash your hands will stress the need for a shot over anything. If one were to assume that their objective was to prevent the spread of the flu, they would be promoting masks - handing them out like condoms on a college campus. However, if they were to choose a mode of transmission that would best support the argument for a shot, they may just as well back the airborne transmission as being the most common cause of infection. They could argue the social awkwardness of the mask, and just give the false expectation that the flu's effects will be reduced in severity and duration.

    Not sure if I'm making sense here, but I look at the tactics a little differently - perhaps one of us has a confirmation bias at play. I think the flu shot is really just a scam, that's making some people lots of money. For what it may be worth, it is my opinion. Your body, your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    Ok - perhaps this is true. In this case then, wouldn't the most effective defense be mechanical filtration (mask)? Why are they not promoting that - its less invasive, more effective, and cost much less.
    Over here in Europe we have laws (and they're working on "better" ones) to prohibit anything that cover the face for reasons of "national security".

    There are of course other reasons for why they prefer injecting vaccines into our bloodstream over a mask...
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    Ok - perhaps this is true. In this case then, wouldn't the most effective defense be mechanical filtration (mask)? Why are they not promoting that - its less invasive, more effective, and cost much less.

    Also, you do agree that hand washing would reduce a contact transmission of the disease? Despite the most common transmission of the flu being airborne, it is communicable through surface contact - thats still a fact right? So washing one's hands reduces the potential of flu infection, while reducing many other infections as well.

    As for the media/medical/pharma industrial complex hysteria, what are they pushing the hardest? The mask? Which approach would yield more proffits - hand washing, a mask, or the shot? I mean, the same people who will tell you to wash your hands will stress the need for a shot over anything. If one were to assume that their objective was to prevent the spread of the flu, they would be promoting masks - handing them out like condoms on a college campus. However, if they were to choose a mode of transmission that would best support the argument for a shot, they may just as well back the airborne transmission as being the most common cause of infection. They could argue the social awkwardness of the mask, and just give the false expectation that the flu's effects will be reduced in severity and duration.

    Not sure if I'm making sense here, but I look at the tactics a little differently - perhaps one of us has a confirmation bias at play. I think the flu shot is really just a scam, that's making some people lots of money. For what it may be worth, it is my opinion. Your body, your choice.
    Asians do use masks quite often during flu (and allergy) season. For some reason, it isn’t as popular in the US. Maybe people don’t want to look like they have some strange communicable disease. Masks are a good idea though.

    This is from the CDC on transmission. I’d dare say that their 6 foot rule is probably not accurate, especially with modern air systems. The flu virus can probably spread further when pushed around a building by forced air.:

    People with flu can spread it to others up to about 6 feet away. Most experts think that flu viruses spread mainly by droplets made when people with flu cough, sneeze or talk. These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs. Less often, a person might get flu by touching a surface or object that has flu virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes.
    ...
    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/spread.htm
    Washing hands is a good thing. Plenty of diseases can be stopped that way. They probably emphasize it during cold/flu season for children, who are much more likely to get bodily fluids on hands and objects, and then to transmit that to their own mouths or noses.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    The study “Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?” by Gary S. Goldman and Neil Z. Miller found a direct statistical correlation between higher vaccine doses and infant mortality rates.
    It concluded a 4250% increase in foetal deaths according to Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) data when comparing 3 consecutive influenza seasons.
    Abortions and birth defects
    In 2009 and 2010, foetal deaths caused by vaccines reported in VAERS increased by 4,250%. Probably caused by the additional H1N1 vaccine that was advised.
    Despite that the CDC knew of the 4,250% rise, it published a report authored by Dr. Pedro Moro in the fall of 2010 that there were only 23 miscarriages caused by the single flu vaccine in 19 years between 1990 – 2009, an average of 1.2 miscarriages per year.

    Eileen Dannemann accused the CDC of “wilful misconduct” in causing the deaths of thousands of unborn babies and deliberately misleading obstetricians and gynaecologists by advertising the flu vaccine as safe for pregnant women:
    The CDC, aware of their own incoming stream of early vaccine adverse events reports, clearly decided to allow the obstetricians to continue, unwittingly, murdering and damaging the unborn so that the CDC’s blunder of recommending the double-dose vaccination of pregnant women could be kept under the radar: http://vactruth.com/2012/11/23/flu-shot ... tal-death/


    In 2017, the CDC published a report by Donaheu et al. on data for the flu seasons from 2010 to 2012.
    Women vaccinated with the influenza vaccine (IIV) in the 2010-2011 season had 3.7-fold greater odds of experiencing an abortion within 28 days than women not receiving the vaccine.
    From 2010 to 2012, the odds for a spontaneous abortion for vaccinated women were 2.0 times greater than for women that weren’t poisoned with the flu vaccine.
    In women who also were poisoned with the H1N1 vaccine the previous year, the odds of spontaneous abortion in the 28 days after receiving a flu vaccine were even 7.7 times greater.

    The 2017 study confirms the findings of a previous report by Goldman.
    Using CDC’s VAERS database, Goldman showed a similar rise in the rate of miscarriages; this increased 11-fold in 2009 when the H1N1 vaccine was added to the recommended vaccine schedule (on top of the seasonal flu shot).

    In a 2014 report, Giuseppe Traversa et al. found that in over 86,000 pregnancies H1N1-vaccinated women had significantly higher rates of gestational diabetes and eclampsia.
    Eclampsia is the development of seizures in women with severe toxaemia (high blood pressure and protein loss in the urine). Eclampsia is fatal in 2% of women and can result in long-term health problems. Foetal complications, including neurological damage and death, are also common.

    In another paper published in 2017, Zerbo et al. showed that the maternal flu shot in the first trimester of pregnancy, causes autism (ASD).
    Between 2000 and 2010, vaccinated pregnant women were 25% more likely to give birth to a child that would later be diagnosed with ASD.

    A 2014 report by Alan Brown et al. of over 1.2 million pregnant women found that elevations in CRP, which is caused by flu vaccination, are associated with a 43% greater risk of having a child with autism.

    In 2016, Chambers et al. found an elevated risk for birth defects for children born to mothers who received one flu vaccine during the 2010-2014 flu seasons. “Scientists” working for the CDC were involved in this study.
    Shortly before this report was published, the CDC issued a gag order forbidding any CDC employee from talking to the press without first getting clearance from the communications office. This could not have been coincidental, could it?

    Vaccine manufacturers acknowledge that flu vaccines have not been shown to be safe for pregnant women.
    Most vaccines contain 25 micrograms of mercury via thimerosal. Health officials have warned women to avoid eating mercury-containing tuna.
    Overwhelming science shows that thimerosal is neurotoxic and deadly and that it may be particularly dangerous to the foetus.

    It has repeatedly been found that thimerosal exposure is associated with:
    - Birth defects - Heinonen et al. 1977;
    - Tics – Thompson et al.;
    - Speech delays – Andrews et al., Verstraeten et al.: https://worldmercuryproject.org/news/cd ... a-vaccine/
    (archived here: http://archive.is/LXxdt)


    A study was done to track how prior vaccination affects immune responses in 141 expectant mothers - 91 were poisoned with a flu shot the previous year, 50 were not.
    They found that women, who hadn't received a flu shot in the previous year, had better immune responses to the vaccine.

    They also claim that their results “suggest it does not meaningfully affect protection in their babies”.
    This really is an amazing conclusion. They found that the vaccines cause immune deficiency, but concluded that the babies were still protected just as well by the antibodies that they received from their mother...

    According to the big pharma supporting “scientists” that published these results, there can’t be any reason to not take flu shots: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 101718.htm


    Immune deficiency
    There is also evidence that being poisoned yearly with the advised flu vaccines results in lower antibody responses - immune deficiency.
    The more influenza vaccinations you get poisoned with in your lifetime, the less your immune system can fight the flu virus in subsequent seasons.

    After the 2009 “flu epidemic”, the Canadian flu surveillance network reported that Canadians who had received a flu shot in late 2008 were between 1.4 and 2.5 times more likely to suffer from an adverse reaction from an H1N1 infection that required medical attention, compared with those who didn't get a shot.

    In 2016, Skowronski published a report that people, who were consecutively vaccinated in 2012, 2013 and 2014, have a higher risk of being infected with the flu.

    Big pharma supporting “doctors” maintain that people should take their flu shot - especially seniors, children younger than two and people suffering from chronic medical conditions (like immune deficiency?): https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/serial-fl ... -1.3147903
    (archived here: http://archive.is/1afvT)


    In the following study, 115 children (6–15 years) were injected with the trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine (TIV) or placebo on average they were followed for some 272 days (unlike the couple of days in “normal” vaccine trials…).

    There was no statistically significant difference in the rate of respiratory illness (ARI or FARI) or confirmed seasonal influenza between subjects injected with TIV and those who received placebo, but TIV recipients did have a significantly lower risk of seasonal influenza infection based on serologic evidence…

    TIV recipients had an enormous increased rate of virologically-confirmed non-influenza infections (390) compared to the subjects that got placebo (88) - a 340% increase in the rate of non-influenza infections.


    Benjamin J. Cowling et al. – Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated With Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine (2012): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3404712/
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  8. #36
    GREENVILLE, S.C. —
    This year’s flu season comes on the heels of one of the deadliest in decades. According to the federal Center for Disease Control and Prevention, 80,000 people died from flu complications in the 2017-2018 season.

    Hunter Allen was one of them. The 19-year-old from Anderson came down with the flu in January of this year. His condition rapidly declined, and he ultimately died from flu complications.
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  9. #37
    damned if you do, damned if you don't

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

  10. #38
    I'd like to get one, but they were out of the autism free ultralights. I'm good enough at math already, so I'll pass.

  11. #39
    Flu season is here. Someone I know has it right now.
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