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Neither I, Daniel or Ron has suggested government regulation. That is your straw man. Ron suggested lawsuits exposing these “private companies” as nothing more than organs of government.
But since you bring up “liberty”, let’s talk about limitations on that noble concept. While we strive for liberty for all, that does not mean we must bow down and surrender to every NGO, government funded, centrally managed, censorship bureau, as is what is happening now with Facebook and Twitter. “Liberty” is not exclusively a right of the plutocracy.
Ignore the big brother censorship at your own peril, unless your true agenda is to silence oppposition, such as that expressed by numerous libertarian-oriented outlets that have been shut down. That is the reality. Despite your obsession with Trump, the libertarian and principled voices are the ones that have been silenced.
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Given the broad and diverse regulations that have been imposed on phone companies and utilities, this is the quote that gave me the impression that you were advocating government regulation of social media and/or other internet platforms:
I haven't heard anyone make any of those strawman arguments.
No one said anything about bowing or surrendering. Instead, new options were created and there was much crowing about the supposedly imminent death of the various mainstream platforms. The howling began only after the various media creators and "influencers" who switched to those new platforms realized that the new options are nowhere near as profitable as the old platforms. This is why the argument has changed from 'create new spaces for free speech!' to 'force existing platforms to host my content!' If they'd been able to make anywhere near as much money on Gab or Voat or whatever, there would be no such movement. Instead, it turns out that 'Twitter for white nationalists' and 'Reddit for white nationalists' are not business proposals that generate much revenue. Thus began the final step in the transformation of the alt-right into a mirror image of the snowflake SJWs that they hate so much.
To me, the most hilarious part of it all is that the much of the same media which was devoted to decrying everything that is represented by modern media, Facebook, Google, loss of privacy, the marketing and sale of attention, and so on was entirely fueled by the money derived from the very things that they opposed.
Big brother censorship? Opposition? Opposition to what, exactly? The whole reason that this 'regulate-the-internet' movement is gaining such traction is that it supports the narratives of the largest media outlet in the nation and the political party which controls all three branches of federal government in addition to the majority of state governments. It's hardly a put-upon dissident group.
Have the outlets been shut down, or are publishers just refusing to distribute their content?
I think that the various social media companies have overreacted in many instances, having swung from largely laissez faire policies to being far too aggressive in dishing out bans after having realized that they had allowed their platforms to be turned into toxic cesspools (and that this might hurt their profits). I don't, however, think that the majority of 'whose who have been silenced' were either principled or libertarian.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members
Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members
I challenge TheCount to bump that thread, but he won't because he's a shrewd chicken$#@!.
I proposed a bet several times to him with stakes that the loser leaves the forum for good. Same with Zip and PRB. None of them took me up on it.
Now what could these people possibly have to lose by leaving this forum?
Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members
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