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    Trump Takes On The "Crazy" Fed. Will It Make A Difference?

    Trump Takes On The "Crazy" Fed. Will It Make A Difference?



    The Fed created what Presidential Candidate Trump accurately described as a "big, fat, ugly bubble." Curiously, as President, Trump re-branded the ugly bubble as 'the greatest economy in American history.' But now that the bubble is losing air, the President is flipping back to calling the Fed "crazy." What's the truth behind all of the flip-flops? Ron Paul discusses on today's Liberty Report!
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    Depends on the difference of which one speaks.

    As a representative, the good doctor Paul senior made little difference, being a boyscout in a den of vipers. But in terms of bringing the basics of liberty to the attention of an entire generation of Americans, he made a huge difference.

    I would call this latest Trump gem potentially good in the same ways. Badmouthing the Fed is unlikely to get anywhere in direct terms, but if it brings more public attention to that most vile institution such that people begin asking the right questions and become interested in getting real answers, I'd call that a win, however small it may seem.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    "Itís just interesting to note how constant government oppression can kill peopleís fighting spirit." - Withur We




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    Trump is hoping to use peoples knowledge of the danger of the Federal Reserve Bank and Central Banks to rally the people. Ron Paul on the other hand wanted people to be free from the control of Central Banking.

    Trump Speaks Out On "The Fed"
    https://vod-api.infowars.com/embed/5...?autoplay=true

    Trump doesnt like what they are doing. Ron Paul wanted desperately to END THE FED. If Trump keeps this up, there will be an attempt to assassinate him, which may be successful. We arent stupid. We know who will be pulling the strings and who will be the ones who want Trump dead. Im pretty sure this statement will be read by someone in power due to red flag words having been used. To those people, if you really want to protect both the President and the American People, pause looking at people like us and look where you arent supposed to look, which is where those who rule from the shadows hide, AT THE TOP.

    If Trump truly challenges the existence of the Privately Owned Federal Reserve Bank and the nature of Central Banking, then I can call him a Supporter of Liberty. At this time, I dont see him as having our best interests in mind. Currently he represents another Status Quo merely challenging the existing Status Quo. But he is also shrewd and none of us will know what he is planning until he does it, and even then, most will not understand it.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    #ENDit

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Trump is hoping to use peoples knowledge of the danger of the Federal Reserve Bank and Central Banks to rally the people. Ron Paul on the other hand wanted people to be free from the control of Central Banking.

    Trump Speaks Out On "The Fed"
    https://vod-api.infowars.com/embed/5...?autoplay=true

    Trump doesnt like what they are doing. Ron Paul wanted desperately to END THE FED. If Trump keeps this up, there will be an attempt to assassinate him, which may be successful. We arent stupid. We know who will be pulling the strings and who will be the ones who want Trump dead. Im pretty sure this statement will be read by someone in power due to red flag words having been used. To those people, if you really want to protect both the President and the American People, pause looking at people like us and look where you arent supposed to look, which is where those who rule from the shadows hide, AT THE TOP.

    If Trump truly challenges the existence of the Privately Owned Federal Reserve Bank and the nature of Central Banking, then I can call him a Supporter of Liberty. At this time, I dont see him as having our best interests in mind. Currently he represents another Status Quo merely challenging the existing Status Quo. But he is also shrewd and none of us will know what he is planning until he does it, and even then, most will not understand it.
    Just like they assassinated Ron Paul for calling to end the Fed?
    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Just like they assassinated Ron Paul for calling to end the Fed?
    Ron's chance of actually ending it was lower than you getting green bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Just like they assassinated Ron Paul for calling to end the Fed?
    How about JFK?
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    How about JFK?
    When did he call to end the Federal Reserve?
    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    When did he call to end the Federal Reserve?
    How about issuing US Treasury Notes that are still in circulation today that were NOT printed by the Federal Reserve Bank? Please, keep showing your TRUE COLORS.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    How about issuing US Treasury Notes that are still in circulation today that were NOT printed by the Federal Reserve Bank? Please, keep showing your TRUE COLORS.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/j-bra...b_4287519.html

    JFK Not Killed in Fed Conspiracy

    <snip>

    Since the conspiracy nuts are congenitally opposed to believing any “establishment” sources, I’ll offer two more they should consider to put this craziness to rest.

    G. Edward Griffin, author of the Creature from Jekyll Island, wrote about this non-issue back in 2000:

    If you look at a copy of EO 11110 you will find that it does not order the issuance of Silver Certificates. It orders an amendment to EO 10289 . . . Those functions did not include the power to issue Silver Certificates. The purpose of EO 11110 was to add that power to the list . . . EO 11110 did not order the printing of Silver Certificates. It ordered the amendment of a previous executive order so that the United States Code would authorize or “empower” the Secretary of the Treasury to issue Silver Certificates if the occasion should arise . . .

    Let’s put this issue into perspective. The proponents of the JFK Myth assert that Kennedy was assassinated because he was about to issue Silver Certificates, thereby denying the bankers their customary interest payments on the nation’s currency. However, the reality was just the opposite. Previously, the President could have issued Silver Certificates on his own authority; but, with the signing of EO 11110, he delegated that authority to the Secretary of the Treasury. At that time, the Secretary of the Treasury was Douglas Dillon from a well-known and powerful banking family. That means Kennedy surrendered the power to issue Silver Certificates and gave it to a member of the banking fraternity who could do with it as he pleased “without the approval, ratification, or other action of the President.” Dillon, of course, would have strong motive to preserve the dominance of Federal Reserve Notes. The theory that Kennedy was getting ready to issue Silver Certificates is without evidence or logic. Griffin takes the CCLI to task for making up additional baseless bs, “The Christian Common Law Institute has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superseded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid.” To which he replies:

    This is not supported by the facts. The power granted to the Secretary of Treasury to issue Silver Certificates was rescinded on September 9, 1987, by Executive Order 12608, signed by President Reagan. The official purpose of the Order was stated as “Elimination of unnecessary Executive orders and technical amendments to others.” It did not affect EO 11110 directly but did affect the parent EO 10289 - along with 62 other executive orders. That is how paragraph (j) was amended to remove the power in question. This Order can be found in its entirety in the Federal Register 52 FR 34617.
    Even if one won’t believe CRS or Griffin, consider that Bill Still of “The Money Masters” fame debunks the JFK myth unequivocally (and to be clear, TMM itself is riddled with bad information and out of context quotations—I have been told repeatedly that Still has tried for years himself to correct the bad info but the copyright holder won’t make changes;


    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-18-2018 at 07:47 PM.
    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    ... says the person who points directly to known sources of disinformation with the big long red bar of -REPS.

    Anyone else who reads this, I strongly advise blocking Zippy, or if you read it, dont listen to a damn word out of his mouth.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    ... says the person who points directly to known sources of disinformation with the big long red bar of -REPS.

    Anyone else who reads this, I strongly advise blocking Zippy, or if you read it, dont listen to a damn word out of his mouth.
    So even G. Edward Griffin- "Creature from Jeckyll Island" author and "Money Master" Bill Still (people you have cited in the past) are also part of the cover-up or are liars. Or did you not bother to read the link?
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-18-2018 at 07:54 PM.
    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So even G. Edward Griffin- "Creature from Jeckyll Island" author and "Money Master" Bill Still (people you have cited in the past) are also part of the cover-up or are liars. Or did you not bother to read the link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So even G. Edward Griffin- "Creature from Jeckyll Island" author and "Money Master" Bill Still (people you have cited in the past) are also part of the cover-up or are liars. Or did you not bother to read the link?
    I dont bother reading most of what you quote because it is typically taken out of context and a steaming pile of buffalo diarrhea up a donkeys dick. Your Halloween costume should be nothing more than a diaper on your mouth due to the high levels of endless $#@! that comes out of it.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So even G. Edward Griffin- "Creature from Jeckyll Island" author and "Money Master" Bill Still (people you have cited in the past) are also part of the cover-up or are liars. Or did you not bother to read the link?
    What do you think of the United States Notes that were issued in 1963?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    I dont bother reading most of what you quote because it is typically taken out of context and a steaming pile of buffalo diarrhea up a donkeys dick. Your Halloween costume should be nothing more than a diaper on your mouth due to the high levels of endless $#@! that comes out of it.
    I noticed.
    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I noticed.
    So why even bother posting?
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    So why even bother posting?
    So others can learn.
    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So others can learn.
    Thats exactly why you were given your big red bar. Its a warning to others to not learn from you.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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