3,000 Hondurans Make New Run For US Border; Trump Threatens To Cut Aid If Not Stopped

[Swordsmyth]

That is not how you peacefully enter a nation.

It's an invasion but a few months from now when illegal immigration comes up somehow the usual NPC suspects will deny that it is again as if this never happened.

[Danke]

That is not how you peacefully enter a nation.

Diversity and inclusion. My friend.

[Dr.3D]

Which MSM reporter is going to say tomorrow....

"You gave Mexico an ultimatum that if they didn't stop the caravan of invaders you would cut off any economic aid to their country. You drew the line in the sand. If they come into America will you withdraw all economic aid to Mexico? Or will your line in the sand be like Obama's?"

The answer is none. But if an independent news source could pose the question......

Maybe that's how he'll get Mexico to pay for the wall. Trump could just use the money that would have gone toward economic aid.

[Anti Federalist]

This is an invasion, organized by enemies of the United States, politically motivated to carry out a political and military objective.

It is an act of war.

So, according to the constitution, the executive has the authority to use military force, including the unorganized militia, to stop this:

Article II

Section 2

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States

Article IV

Section 4

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion

Because that's what an invading army does: carries their standard before them.

[spudea]

The defcon level is classified. This is incredibly tricky, if he moves too soon the media will get wind on it and raise hell right before the midterms.

[Swordsmyth]

The defcon level is classified. This is incredibly tricky, if he moves too soon the media will get wind on it and raise hell right before the midterms.

Ideally Mexico will stop them for us or at least slow them down enough that they don't reach the border and force a crackdown before the midterms.

[Pauls' Revere]

This is a trap and a losing issue for Trump and the GOP. This could blow the midterms.

I already voted.

[Swordsmyth]

Yesterday evening, Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez said he had spoken to his Guatemalan counterpart Jimmy Morales for clearance to send civil protection personnel to help the Hondurans and to find transport for those wanting to return.
“We’ll continue this operation for as long as is necessary,” Hernandez said in a post on Twitter.
Shortly afterwards, Guatemala’s government tweeted that Hernandez would meet Morales today in Guatemala City to implement a strategy for returning the Honduran migrants.
Meanwhile, in a late televised address, Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto called the mass rush to penetrate the border “unprecedented”, accusing some migrants of attacking police.
“Mexico does not and will not allow (people) to enter its territory illegally, let alone violently,” he said.


Speaking in Scottsdale, Arizona yesterday, Trump said he “appreciated very much” Mexico’s efforts to stop the caravan.

“If that doesn’t work out, we’re calling up the military — not the (National) Guard — we’re calling up the military,” he told reporters. “They’re not coming into this country.”

More at: https://www.malaymail.com/s/1684902/...-turn-back-mou

[Mach]

Mexico's wasn't that worried about them getting in, what are they going to do when all of those illegals get to our border and aren't allowed in, camping out on the Mexican side?

3000+ people just stopping and squatting will get out of hand very quickly.... we're mad!

Time to set some examples.

[RJB]

It's an invasion...

Most open border libertarian types would agree that you could fight an invasion force whose purpose is to violently disarm us. However, they have no issues with an invasion force who will simply vote to violently disarm us.

[nobody's_hero]

Got Mexico looking like the Hungary of North America.

[Anti Federalist]

Most open border libertarian types would agree that you could fight an invasion force whose purpose is to violently disarm us. However, they have no issues with an invasion force who will simply vote to violently disarm us.

You are witnessing Fifth Generation warfare.

An invading army with no guns, no tanks, no air support...just damnable pity, to tug at the heart and fog the mind of the already softened and weak of the soon to be displaced and removed population.

[Pauls' Revere]

Yesterday evening, Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez said he had spoken to his Guatemalan counterpart Jimmy Morales for clearance to send civil protection personnel to help the Hondurans and to find transport for those wanting to return.
“We’ll continue this operation for as long as is necessary,” Hernandez said in a post on Twitter.
Shortly afterwards, Guatemala’s government tweeted that Hernandez would meet Morales today in Guatemala City to implement a strategy for returning the Honduran migrants.
Meanwhile, in a late televised address, Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto called the mass rush to penetrate the border “unprecedented”, accusing some migrants of attacking police.
“Mexico does not and will not allow (people) to enter its territory illegally, let alone violently,” he said.


Speaking in Scottsdale, Arizona yesterday, Trump said he “appreciated very much” Mexico’s efforts to stop the caravan.

“If that doesn’t work out, we’re calling up the military — not the (National) Guard — we’re calling up the military,” he told reporters. “They’re not coming into this country.”

More at: https://www.malaymail.com/s/1684902/...-turn-back-mou

Where was Mexico when that first caravan came through? remember that one that reached the US Border.

[Swordsmyth]

Where was Mexico when that first caravan came through? remember that one that reached the US Border.

They were helping them get here, Trump is finally holding them accountable and all of a sudden they do something about this one.

[angelatc]

You are witnessing Fifth Generation warfare.

An invading army with no guns, no tanks, no air support...just damnable pity, to tug at the heart and fog the mind of the already softened and weak of the soon to be displaced and removed population.

I was watching the video of them storming the barricades and I told my husband I had no idea how we would stop them. There are children, and I don't think anybody wants to see our troops opening fire on unarmed kids. My husband said once you feel sympathy, they've as good as won.

Seeing Zippy joyously taunting us, daring us to try to stop them, makes me a lot less sympathetic. The people on the border screwed up bu not reinforcing that chain link with fire hoses.

I will support calling out the National Guard on this shenanigan.

[Swordsmyth]

I was watching the video of them storming the barricades and I told my husband I had no idea how we would stop them. There are children, and I don't think anybody wants to see our troops opening fire on unarmed kids. My husband said once you feel sympathy, they've as good as won.

Seeing Zippy joyously taunting us, daring us to try to stop them, makes me a lot less sympathetic. The people on the border screwed up bu not reinforcing that chain link with fire hoses.

I will support calling out the National Guard on this shenanigan.

Civilization created rules so that we could act civilized but when people break those rules and try to use our civility against us we will eventually be forced to become uncivilized in order to restore civilization.

We must be willing to harm or even kill unarmed women and children if they try to use their status to break the rules or we might as well not have rules. (Even anarchist must be willing to harm or kill unarmed women and children if they try to attack them or steal from them etc.)

And it doesn't help that the media has declared older teenagers (and those who pretend to be older teenagers) to be "children" either.

[Zippyjuan]

Ideally Mexico will stop them for us or at least slow them down enough that they don't reach the border and force a crackdown before the midterms.

It took the last group more than a month to cross Mexico on foot. Assuming they get here. Midterms just a couple weeks away. But that won't stop Trump from trying to exploit the situation.

[angelatc]

It took the last group more than a month to cross Mexico on foot. Assuming they get here. Midterms just a couple weeks away. But that won't stop Trump from trying to exploit the situation.

Trump is charged with enforcing the borders and immigration law. How exactly is he exploiting this?

[Swordsmyth]

It took the last group more than a month to cross Mexico on foot. Assuming they get here. Midterms just a couple weeks away. But that won't stop Trump from trying to exploit the situation.

Define "exploit".

Hint: it doesn't mean fulfilling his Constitutional duty

[eleganz]

Border enforcement today is not inconsistent with libertarian ideology. We have a massive and growing welfare state that has no end in sight.

You cannot have open borders and a welfare state.

Hence, the border must be enforced or the welfare state will be expanded on steroids to accommodate them. California is already pushing for illegals to vote and receive free health care.

[Zippyjuan]

Border enforcement today is not inconsistent with libertarian ideology. We have a massive and growing welfare state that has no end in sight.

You cannot have open borders and a welfare state.

Hence, the border must be enforced or the welfare state will be expanded on steroids to accommodate them. California is already pushing for illegals to vote and receive free health care.

Illegal immigrants are not allowed to vote. They are not eligible for welfare or other Federal benefits like Social Security or Medicare/ Medicaid. Legal immigrants with proper visas are eligible for benefits after they are in the country legally for at least five years. Talk to your representatives about reducing welfare spending.

[Swordsmyth]

Illegal immigrants are not allowed to vote. They are not eligible for welfare or other Federal benefits like Social Security or Medicare/ Medicaid. Legal immigrants with proper visas are eligible for benefits after they are in the country legally for at least five years. Talk to your representatives about reducing welfare spending.

Liberals help illegals cheat and they do vote and get welfare.

[eleganz]

Illegal immigrants are not allowed to vote. They are not eligible for welfare or other Federal benefits like Social Security or Medicare/ Medicaid. Legal immigrants with proper visas are eligible for benefits after they are in the country legally for at least five years. Talk to your representatives about reducing welfare spending.

Lol horrible spin.

I said California is pushing for illegals to vote and received healthcare. On the other hand illegals DO vote and DO receive welfare.

I also said there will be no end in welfare so the borders must be enforced. Its far easier to enforce the borders than the end welfare.

I'm sorry if you don't like it but thats how it is.

Talk to your reps if you want open borders.

[Zippyjuan]

Lol horrible spin.

I said California is pushing for illegals to vote and received healthcare. On the other hand illegals DO vote and DO receive welfare.

I also said there will be no end in welfare so the borders must be enforced. Its far easier to enforce the borders than the end welfare.

I'm sorry if you don't like it but thats how it is.

Talk to your reps if you want open borders.

Not spin. Facts.

[Anti Federalist]

I was watching the video of them storming the barricades and I told my husband I had no idea how we would stop them. There are children, and I don't think anybody wants to see our troops opening fire on unarmed kids. My husband said once you feel sympathy, they've as good as won.

Seeing Zippy joyously taunting us, daring us to try to stop them, makes me a lot less sympathetic. The people on the border screwed up bu not reinforcing that chain link with fire hoses.

I will support calling out the National Guard on this shenanigan.

Your hubby is a wise man, he is absolutely right, that is what makes this manner of warfare so effective, especially against a weak and self loathing population.

I no longer give a $#@!.

Don't want your stupid kids shot to ribbons by M60 fire?

Then $#@! right off back to where you came from.

Everybody's safe then.

[Anti Federalist]

Illegal immigrants are not allowed to vote. They are not eligible for welfare or other Federal benefits like Social Security or Medicare/ Medicaid. Legal immigrants with proper visas are eligible for benefits after they are in the country legally for at least five years. Talk to your representatives about reducing welfare spending.

And they routinely do vote and do collect these benefits.

Crossing the border without proper documentation is not allowed either.

Yet here they are.

[Swordsmyth]

Not spin. Facts.

LOL

[pcosmar]

Someone has to be Funding that adventure.. Someone paid the organizers.

Perhaps the same ones feigning outrage now.

[Swordsmyth]

Someone has to be Funding that adventure.. Someone paid the organizers.

Perhaps the same ones feigning outrage now.

Soros has been linked to it.

[angelatc]

And they routinely do vote and do collect these benefits.

Crossing the border without proper documentation is not allowed either.

Yet here they are.

I might point out that if they manage to get across the border and apply for asylum they're immediately eligible for benefits, even though the reasons that the Hondurans cite are not considered grounds for asylum.

Mexico agreed to take them in, but they don't want that.