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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    This is truly shameful. In a less PC time, and a neutral media environment, a person who is 1/64 native American at best and claiming to be Cherokee as part of their identity, would be correctly labeled clinically insane.
    She is on my authority 100 percent insane .
    Do something Danke



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    Despicable human and hypocrite



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    I guess I can understand her claim a bit as I grew up with the same kind of stories about our Cherokee heritage. I believed my family and haven't gone through the DNA stuff.

    Warren's bad Indian thing was started by a political opponent- which always makes me a bit suspicious; everyone in her education/job history have said it was never an issue.

    Like I said- I'm no Warren fan but this has always seemed blown waaaay outta proportion.
    Do you claim to be a native American?
    You ever file for native scholarships?

    Everybody has a little native blood in them. My grandma said we have native lineage.

    Elizabeth Warren is not a Native American, in any way. She is a blue eyed, blonde haired, privileged white woman, who never saw a day of struggle in her life, and knows absolutely nothing about the struggle of native.

    She's a god damned phony. And if she can tell whoppers like this, with a straight face, she obviously is one of those people that has lied to get everything.

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    I have never accepted scholarships or jobs based on race and would discourage all americans from participating in these barbaric , racist institutions like harvard .
    Do something Danke

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    I think "pay up or shut up" is her debate tactic.
    She's assuming Hillary folds in 2020 and does
    not up the ante in order to debate DJT all over
    again. One of the Republicans had an attack ad
    with the bumper sticker LIZ 4 PREZ and maybe
    this is not the brightest idea. Most Democrats up
    here expect her to POTUS run. Mr.Bernie does not
    have things sewn up. She just positioned herself...

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    1/512 ???

    LOL

    By that standard, I'm Sitting $#@!ing Bull.
    She comes in at .10 mexican according to some professor and the avg american is .20 which means she is as she looks , whiter than a white person . You could actually get as much information as that from blood type .
    Do something Danke

  10. #38
    LOLOLOL...she and the Globe sure shot themselves in the foot on this one.

    She's no more American Indian than Custer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Do you claim to be a native American?
    You ever file for native scholarships?

    Everybody has a little native blood in them. My grandma said we have native lineage.

    Elizabeth Warren is not a Native American, in any way. She is a blue eyed, blonde haired, privileged white woman, who never saw a day of struggle in her life, and knows absolutely nothing about the struggle of native.

    She's a god damned phony. And if she can tell whoppers like this, with a straight face, she obviously is one of those people that has lied to get everything.
    FWIW, if she was born in America then shes a native American... Just saying... Im a native american too.. but im not indian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Do both parents always contribute 50% of the gene material to an offspring or is it more of a probability function?
    Yes, parents always contribute 50% of their DNA, and yes it is a probability thing too. Think of it like this, you are 50% of your Dad, and he is 50% of his Dad. So you have a 25% probably of inheriting any one of your grandpa’s genes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    LOLOLOL...she and the Globe sure shot themselves in the foot on this one.

    She's no more American Indian than Custer.
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    Love watching these "special interests" goat-$#@! each other.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    Pretty much.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Pretty much.
    Didn't see the date I thought this was a response to Warren. I'm gonna leave it up though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    +rep

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Warren's bad Indian thing was started by a political opponent- which always makes me a bit suspicious; everyone in her education/job history have said it was never an issue.
    I'm also ~1/64 and think it would be terribly absurd for me to list myself or tell people I'm native American, it would be outright delusional. Warren started this when she developed her own self hate. ITS OKAY TO BE WHITE.

    It was Warren who made it all an issue. We don’t fully know how important Warren’s claims were in her career. There is, however, much evidence that her self-driven minority claims in the 1990s were helpful. Warren, who once maintained her family had “high cheekbones like all of the Indians do,” was listed as a “minority faculty member” by The University of Pennsylvania. She had the school switch her designation from white to Native American. Warren self-identified as a “minority” in the legal directory, and Harvard Law School preposterously listed her as one of the “women of color” the school had hired. On job applications, Warren was very specific in claiming that she had Cherokee and Delaware Indian ancestry.

    When her supposed Native American heritage came under scrutiny during her first Senate bid, Warren presented a recipe she had published in her cousin’s cookbook as evidence of her background. It was signed “Elizabeth Warren — Cherokee.” Later we learned that even the recipe was taken verbatim from an article in The New York Times five years earlier.
    http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/15/...she-was-lying/
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    My grandfathers grandmother was full blooded indian. That made his mom 50%, he was 25%, my mother 12.5%, me 6.25%.

    I was always told that was an insignificant amount.

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    Since they used mexico, peru and columbia as the target they may have actually proved that she has spanish/portuguese ancestry.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 10-15-2018 at 06:46 PM.
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    https://twitter.com/MeyersWarren/sta...83594715557891

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    https://twitter.com/MeyersWarren/sta...25898394357761

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    Warrens eating crow right now and I'm absolutely loving it. Please run in 2020 so we can bring this up throughout your whole campaign.
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    https://twitter.com/benshapiro/statu...39834409467905

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Warrens eating crow right now and I'm absolutely loving it. Please run in 2020 so we can bring this up throughout your whole campaign.
    If she ate the right kind of Crow it would significantly increase how much Injun she had in her.
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    So the average European American has twice as much native American DNA as Warren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    It is not that simple. If you assume genes from a gene pair are selected randomly you can see a situation where a parent chooses always one of their parents' genes when passing them to a child. This means a grandchild can have 0-50% of its grandparent genes. Although the most likely outcome is 25% it is not the only possibility.
    Exactly. That’s where the randomness comes into play. It’s also why your ancestry can not possibly be completely told by DNA. The whole DNA/ancestry/location on the planet connection and these services is fraudulent.

    As you point out, even though very highly improbable, in the most extreme possible example, a parent could contribute DNA to their child from only one of their parents. Thus, it would be theoretically, (but not realistically) possible for a person to have no genes at all from a grandparent. This does not mean that the grandparent is any less an ancestor. And of course the more generations you go back, the more likely that a person will have no genetic material from a legitimate ancestor.

    And none of this takes into account the inevitable cross merging of family trees at some point in the past.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    LOLOLOL...she and the Globe sure shot themselves in the foot on this one.

    She's no more American Indian than Custer.
    LOL, 23andme says i'm like 50x more Neanderthal than she is Native American. Maybe I should petition for protected status, my ancestors are extinct, killed off by those evil homosapiens!
    Last edited by specsaregood; 10-15-2018 at 09:22 PM.

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