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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    NO.

    Taken one away opens the door for much more breaking of the 2nd Amendment, until it no longer exists.
    I got started in political "activism" over the 2nd Amendment issue 35 years ago.

    The plain fact of the matter is that the 2nd is much healthier and robust today that it was in 1983 when I bought my first guns and my first gun rights activist membership.

    In 1983 there were wholesale bans, very real talk of banning all handguns at a federal level, taxes and insurance scams and concealed weapons carry by "civilians" was unheard of.

    Now, over 80 percent of the people in this country live in "Shall Issue" states, many live in "Constitutional Carry" states, there is very real pushback every time there is some shooting used as an excuse to take away gun rights...if only people would defend the rest of the rest of the bill of rights so strongly.

    And the very real fact is that it was GOP representatives at every level that voted for or signed off on these measures.

    In NH it took getting rid of a Democrat woeman to elect a Republican man who signed off on Constitutional Carry the very first month in office.

    Of course there have been set backs and losses, but on the whole, restrictions on the right to defend yourself are much, much, much less burdensome and restrictive and tyrannical than they were 35 years ago.

    And it was not Democrat party representatives that embraced loosening and limiting those restrictions.

    I have no reason to think that it's possible to make the 4th just as strong and robust, if only people would be as active on that as they are on the 2nd.

    But I have no reason to think that support would come from the modern day "left".
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 10-15-2018 at 12:57 AM.



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I never said there was but the Demoncrats will push for much more gun control.
    And the Republicans have been pushing for more gun control too.
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  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    O'Bummer only failed to enact gun control because of Republicans in Congress, Trump is about to enact a regulatory bumpstock ban that will fail in the courts, if you want to see a legislative bumpstock or even semi-auto ban that will be more likely to survive a court challenge then let the Demoncrats take over Congress.




    It matters how much they violate the Constitution, the only reason the bumpstock ban will probably fail in the courts is because we got Gorsuch instead of Garland and now we have Kavanaugh instead of Kennedy.





    Absolutely true but there is still a difference between banning a gimmick accessory and banning all handguns or all semi-autos.
    OMG! Your mental gymnastics are painfully stupid as usually. Trump at first backed legislation for a new assault weapons ban and then walked it back due to a backlash from the right. And the same republican majority that wouldn't let Obama pass an assault weapons ban won't let Trump. The dems will not get a 2/3rd majority in the senate even if they run the tables, so if Trump was solidly pro second amendment, which he is NOT (he was calling for an assault weapons ban back in 2002), then it wouldn't matter if the dems got both houses because any new gun control could be vetoed. And when Obummer was president we were all solidly against his abuse of executive and administrative orders. Now you're saying that's good because its going to fail in the courts? How many Obummer executive orders were overturned in court? Not many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I got started in political "activism" over the 2nd Amendment issue 35 years ago.

    The plain fact of the matter is that the 2nd is much healthier and robust today that it was in 1983 when I bought my first guns and my first gun rights activist membership.

    In 1983 there were wholesale bans, very real talk of banning all handguns at a federal level, taxes and insurance scams and concealed weapons carry by "civilians" was unheard of.

    Now, over 80 percent of the people in this country live in "Shall Issue" states, many live in "Constitutional Carry" states, there is very real pushback every time there is some shooting used as an excuse to take away gun rights...if only people would defend the rest of the rest of the bill of rights so strongly.

    And the very real fact is that it was GOP representatives at every level that voted for or signed off on these measures.

    In NH it took getting rid of a Democrat woeman to elect a Republican man who signed off on Constitutional Carry the very first month in office.

    Of course there have been set backs and losses, but on the whole, restrictions on the right to defend yourself are much, much, much less burdensome and restrictive and tyrannical than they were 35 years ago.

    And it was not Democrat party representatives that embraced loosening and limiting those restrictions.

    I have no reason to think that it's possible to make the 4th just as strong and robust, if only people would be as active on that as they are on the 2nd.

    But I have no reason to think that support would come from the modern day "left".
    I agree. I just wish people would quit acting like Trump is a republican. He's not. He never was. He's a wolf in sheep's clothes. And there is no excuse for what HE is doing on the 2nd amendment front. Yes the republicans in state houses are doing a bang up job protecting gun rights. On the federal level...not so much. At the presidential level....he's working for the other side. And he always has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I agree. I just wish people would quit acting like Trump is a republican. He's not. He never was. He's a wolf in sheep's clothes. And there is no excuse for what HE is doing on the 2nd amendment front. Yes the republicans in state houses are doing a bang up job protecting gun rights. On the federal level...not so much. At the presidential level....he's working for the other side. And he always has.
    Yep- and heavy gun control/confiscation is upon us.

    More from Chuck Baldwin:

    Following the mass shooting in Florida, there was NO surge in gun sales (which is not normally the case—usually gun sales skyrocket after mass shootings in anticipation of more gun control laws being enacted), as conservatives and gun owners were confident that their constitutional right to keep and bear arms was not in jeopardy: Donald Trump would make sure of that.

    But as I have tried to warn people, Donald Trump has no core convictions; he has no center; he has no moral compass; and he is a dish rag when it comes to the Constitution. Of the sixteen gun control bills in Congress that I referenced in my October, 2017, column, Trump is now actively supporting at least ten of them.

    In Trump’s highly publicized round-table discussion with members of Congress from both parties (including radical gun control zealots such as Dianne Feinstein), Trump announced that he favors implementing several additional gun control laws, including banning bump stocks (and similar “modifiers”), more background checks for gun purchases—including adding a variety of “mental health” screenings—and implementing the “Fix NICS” bill (a longtime goal of gun grabbing Democrats like Schumer and Feinstein).

    In point of fact, the original “Fix NICS” bill was introduced under Barack Obama and included outlawing private gun sales. Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massie is warning the American people that the Republican leadership in Congress is trying to pass the “Fix NICS” bill THIS WEEK. He warns of how devastating the bill will be to America’s veterans and seniors who will be thrown into the “no buy” list for a host of reasons. And will the bill include the original language outlawing the private sale of firearms? Don’t count it out.

    Trump also announced that he supported gun confiscation without due process. He TWICE said that government should take (confiscate) the guns first and worry about due process later. He then looked at Dianne Feinstein and told her he would support her bill. “Her” bill is the “assault-weapons” ban that would outlaw all semi-automatic rifles.

    After Trump’s shameless calls for more gun control, the White House has tried to calm Trump’s conservative constituents by walking back several of those comments. That doesn’t change the fact that Trump said them—more than once. And it doesn’t change the fact that Trump is still forging ahead with plans to implement new gun control laws.

    Again, until Donald Trump made his stupid Stalinist statements supporting more gun control laws—even gun confiscation—the Democrat-led charge for more gun control was DEAD. However, AFTER Trump’s stupid Stalinist statements, politicians in both parties have gone into a gun control frenzy.

    Already, the Republican house, senate, and governor of Florida have enacted one of the most draconian gun control laws in U.S. history. The law bans the sale of firearms to anyone under the age of 21; it mandates a three-day waiting period for most gun purchases; adds a “red flag” law that allows law enforcement to CONFISCATE the firearms of individuals who have not committed a crime or have not even threatened to commit a crime—but who might be “suspected” of having “mental health” issues; adds additional background checks for gun purchases; and mandates “mental health” screening for all public school students in the State.

    Again, these Marxist-inspired gun control laws were passed by a REPUBLICAN house, senate, and governor
    .

    Do you think for one minute that Trump’s pro-gun control rhetoric had NOTHING to do with the way those Republicans voted in Florida? Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. The party takes its cues from him. When Trump embraced and promoted the enactment of more gun control, it was a signal to Republicans and Democrats alike to proceed with more gun control. And that’s exactly what both parties are doing.

    A few days ago, the State of Washington became the first State in the country to enforce its newly enacted “red flag” law and confiscate the firearm of a man who had broken NO law and who had not even threatened anyone. His firearm was confiscated on the mere notion that he was “suspected” of having “mental health” issues. I wrote about this Gestapo-style episode last week.

    See the column here:

    Trump Opens Door For Gun Confiscation In America

    Now, the State of Illinois is about to pass a law that would authorize blanket gun confiscation of everyone under the age of 21. Writing for American Thinker, Daniel John Sobieski writes,

    It is no longer a conspiracy theory spawned by deplorable bitter clingers, but a creeping reality spawned by shootings law enforcement could have prevented but didn’t. The Illinois House has passed legislation requiring 18- to 20-year-olds to give up certain legally purchased and legally owned firearms:

    A bill requiring 18-20 year olds to hand over or transfer ownership of heretofore legally possessed “assault weapons” is gaining sponsors in the Illinois Senate after passing the House last month.

    The bill, HB 1465, was sponsored in the House by Rep. Michelle Mussman (D-Schaumburg) and passed by a vote of 64-51 on February 28.

    After being introduced in the upper house by Senate President John Cullerton (D-Chicago), the bill has added seven co-sponsors in the last week. Notable among them was Sen. Jim Oberweis (R-Sugar Grove), the NRA “A” rated 2014 Republican nominee for U.S. Senate.

    Gun confiscation is here. First they will come for the young, who can go to war with guns but can no longer go hunting with them or protect their families. If you are a 20-year-old single mom with a restraining order against a violent ex-boyfriend, well, you’ll just have to trust your life to 911 as your door is being kicked in. Meanwhile, the government wants you to give it your guns.

    See the report here:

    Gun Confiscation Begins In Illinois

    Notice that Democrats AND Republicans in Illinois are supporting this Marxist bill that confiscates guns from law-abiding people with NO DUE PROCESS WHATSOEVER.
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  8. #66
    If there's a liberty candidate to support, I'll support them regardless of party. Unfortunately, there are so few.

    I really think it's best to look at the candidate instead of the party. Hell, both parties advocate increased spending and new wars. Both want government control over the individual. I don't really get caught up in their games to see which ones "own" the control.

    When there's no liberty candidate - just vote against the incumbent. It's not going to matter anyway, so I can't imagine getting emotionally invested. Cast a lot against them and move on with your day.
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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Yep- and heavy gun control/confiscation is upon us.

    More from Chuck Baldwin:
    You cannot give Reputation to the same post twice.

    1) Chuck Baldwin is awesome and that further solidifies that Ron Paul did the right thing to support him over Bob Barr when he dropped out in 2008.

    2) Thank you for posting that. I knew the situation was bad, but I did not know how bad.

    3) Prior to being elected, when some of us pointed out that Trump wrote in his 2002 book The America We Deserve that he supported a new assault weapons ban, Trump humpers were all like "He can change his mind." Now, after being elected, Trump stumps for assault weapons bans and Trump humpers are like "Well he's trying to do it by executive order so that makes it better because it can more easily be overturned" even though the truth is Trump is backing BOTH executive action AND legislation to restrict gun rights. I support the Trump tax cuts, reaching out to North Korea, and ending the regime change/confront Russia policy in Syria. That's....that's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I agree. I just wish people would quit acting like Trump is a republican. He's not. He never was. He's a wolf in sheep's clothes. And there is no excuse for what HE is doing on the 2nd amendment front. Yes the republicans in state houses are doing a bang up job protecting gun rights. On the federal level...not so much. At the presidential level....he's working for the other side. And he always has.
    Yah, Trump is Trump, no doubt.

    I've said over and over again, I can't figure out what the hell he's doing. Maybe Randal needs to get in his ear more. I know he wanted to execute the "Central Park Five" (who turned out to be innocent) back in the day and now he's taking prison reform recommendations from Kim Kardashian and Yeezy, so who $#@!ing knows what the next Drunken Monkey move may be.

    But the point of Matt's thread was to discourage freedom folk turnout in the upcoming House and Senate races, to not vote Republican.

    I can see many benefits of keeping the House and Senate out of the Bolshevik left's hands.

    YMMV.

    If I was strictly voting identity politics, in my NH district, I'd be torn:

    We have the first black man running for congress in NH, who is an ex cop and Trump supporter.

    Or a young homosexual white man who is an avowed socialist.

    Or a personal acquaintance of mine running on the LP ticket.

    Choices choices choices...

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    and ending the regime change/confront Russia policy in Syria. That's....that's about it.
    If only this was true; I'm not seeing any indications that this is actually happening based on 'facts on the ground'.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    And the Republicans have been pushing for more gun control too.
    Oh really?
    Then why isn't a bumpstock ban moving through Congress?
    Are the Demoncrats going to stop the "evil" Republicans from taking our guns?
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    OMG! Your mental gymnastics are painfully stupid as usually. Trump at first backed legislation for a new assault weapons ban and then walked it back due to a backlash from the right. And the same republican majority that wouldn't let Obama pass an assault weapons ban won't let Trump. The dems will not get a 2/3rd majority in the senate even if they run the tables, so if Trump was solidly pro second amendment, which he is NOT (he was calling for an assault weapons ban back in 2002), then it wouldn't matter if the dems got both houses because any new gun control could be vetoed. And when Obummer was president we were all solidly against his abuse of executive and administrative orders. Now you're saying that's good because its going to fail in the courts? How many Obummer executive orders were overturned in court? Not many.
    Do you even know what thread you are posting in?
    This isn't about Trump and I haven't said one good word about him on this subject.
    You are helping to make the case that it is the Republicans in Congress that have stopped and will stop gun control legislation and therefore we should keep them in control.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Oh really?
    Then why isn't a bumpstock ban moving through Congress?
    Because Trump is doing it administratively. And in Florida it did pass the Republican legislature with help of the Republican Governor.
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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    It's important to vote Republican this election.




    Why?




    Because once the Republicans gain control of Congress and the White House:




    - the budget will be balanced and the deficit will be reduced

    - the national debt will start to be paid down

    - anti-gun laws will be repealed

    - abortion will be outlawed

    - the government will get completely out of healthcare

    - corporate and personal welfare will be eliminated




    If the Democrats keep control of the government then none of these things will happen. We can only count on any of this happening if the Republicans are running the show. So get out there and do your part!

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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Because Trump is doing it administratively.
    Circular logic, Trump is going the administrative route because it won't pass Congress.


    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    And in Florida it did pass the Republican legislature with help of the Republican Governor.
    RINOs gonna RINO but Trump isn't governor of Florida and the Republicans in Congress aren't moving forward a bumpstock ban, the Demoncrats will move one and much worse gun control if they take control.
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  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Do you even know what thread you are posting in?
    This isn't about Trump and I haven't said one good word about him on this subject.
    You are helping to make the case that it is the Republicans in Congress that have stopped and will stop gun control legislation and therefore we should keep them in control.
    Your words.

    Absolutely true but there is still a difference between banning a gimmick accessory and banning all handguns or all semi-autos.
    There is no difference period. Trump tried for legislation to ban semi-autos and failing that attempted to do the next best thing which was gun control by executive order. The difference is that Obama wasn't smart enough of a gun grabber to think of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Your words.



    There is no difference period. Trump tried for legislation to ban semi-autos and failing that attempted to do the next best thing which was gun control by executive order. The difference is that Obama wasn't smart enough of a gun grabber to think of that.
    This thread is about Congressional Republicans and it is them that have stopped any ban from progressing legislatively, Trump's administrative ban is doomed to failure in the courts, if you want to see more gun control passed as legislation that might not be doomed then do as Matt snake in the grass Collins is suggesting and let the Demoncrats take control.
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  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    There is no difference period.
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  21. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Circular logic, Trump is going the administrative route because it won't pass Congress.

    RINOs gonna RINO but Trump isn't governor of Florida and the Republicans in Congress aren't moving forward a bumpstock ban, the Demoncrats will move one and much worse gun control if they take control.
    Except that Trump is the one pushing gun control here. Why do you (and he) hate freedom?
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  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Except that Trump is the one pushing gun control here. Why do you (and he) hate freedom?
    I have attacked him for that in other threads and it is the Demoncrats who will send him gun control legislation to sign if they win.

    Why do you hate freedom?
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

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  23. #80
    Trump might grab your pu$$y but he's not going to grab your guns. Take it to the bank.
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    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post


    There is no difference period. Trump tried for legislation to ban semi-autos

    Yeah. That never happened, at least not while he has been president.

  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Because Trump is doing it administratively. And in Florida it did pass the Republican legislature with help of the Republican Governor.
    And in Vermont with a republican gov.

    But what is your point?

    RINO's suck?

    We get that.

    If you want to see hard core gun control getting rammed through, just look to uniparty democrat states like New York and Kalifornia.

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Except that Trump is the one pushing gun control here. Why do you (and he) hate freedom?
    Of anybody here, you don't have a god damn clue what Trump is doing.
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  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Except that Trump is the one pushing gun control here. Why do you (and he) hate freedom?
    Kavanaugh is better than most on the 2nd amendment. Trump nominee and Rand supported. Suck it.

  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Of anybody here, you don't have a god damn clue what Trump is doing.
    Fixed that for you.

  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And in Vermont with a republican gov.

    But what is your point?

    RINO's suck?

    We get that.

    If you want to see hard core gun control getting rammed through, just look to uniparty democrat states like New York and Kalifornia.
    Two case studies that undeniably prove you correct. And matttehcollinz wrong.

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Two case studies that undeniably prove you correct. And matttehcollinz wrong.
    Nothing new for Matthew...wasn't he the one preaching to all of us how we should work within the system, learns it's ways and means through study and expensive political theory classes?

    Look, I need a Representative that is actually IN government.

    I'm sure you and I could each represent each other on 99 out of 100 issues.

    But it does no $#@!ing good to have the representative sitting with you at the bar sipping bourbon while we bitch at other about how $#@!ed up government is.

    Right now, at this time in history, I'd rather have somebody that I agree with 80 percent of the time actually IN government and able to DO something, or more correctly STOP something, than somebody I agree with 100 percent who is outside just like me and can do nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Nothing new for Matthew...wasn't he the one preaching to all of us how we should work within the system, learns it's ways and means through study and expensive political theory classes?

    Look, I need a Representative that is actually IN government.

    I'm sure you and I could each represent each other on 99 out of 100 issues.

    But it does no $#@!ing good to have the representative sitting with you at the bar sipping bourbon while we bitch at other about how $#@!ed up government is.

    Right now, at this time in history, I'd rather have somebody that I agree with 80 percent of the time actually IN government and able to DO something, or more correctly STOP something, than somebody I agree with 100 percent who is outside just like me and can do nothing.
    I'm right there with you. I'm voting straight Republican this go around. Not because I care for them. Because, I cannot abide the left in the least since. Don't have a libertarian to vote for so I just don't care. Hopefully, a smack down will give the Democrats pause. Doubt it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Kavanaugh is better than most on the 2nd amendment.
    Yes, and he is awful on the 4th Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Of anybody here, you don't have a god damn clue what Trump is doing.
    I do. He is pushing for gun control.
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