View Poll Results: Would you support ending all US foreign aid immediately?

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  1. #91
    Courtesy of swordsmyth:

    In Historic Move, Sen. Rand Paul Places Hold on $38 Billion to Israel




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  5. #94
    While true that GOP/Dems and MAGA are not all compliant political slaves of his top funder, US tax payers aid to to our closest ally and only non-racist democracy in mideast is increasing:


    Mega-donor Adelson, with access and influence, scores two pro- Israel victories
    These are heady days for casino billionaire and megadonor Sheldon Adelson.
    A passionate and hawkish advocate for Israel with close ties to its prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, Adelson was in Jerusalem today for a celebration of the U.S. embassy’s relocation to that city, a longstanding priority for the mogul. Similarly, Adelson had pushed hard for President Donald Trump to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, which happened last week.
    And the day after that announcement, Adelson quietly slipped into the White House for a private meeting with Trump and three top administration officials: Vice President Mike Pence, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and an Adelson favorite, National Security Adviser John Bolton, according to two conservative sources familiar with the previously unreported private event.


    Land Of The Free: Bill making it crime to boycott Israel, upto $1M fine , 20 years prison


  6. #95
    Could this attack on a wedding gathering of Shiites (they tend to be pro-Iran) that was allgedely aimed to stop US exit from Afghanistan finally mobilize Congress and MAGA administration to cut all foreign aid if hand of Deep State of our closest ally is found to be behind this?

    The deadliest attack of the year in Kabul bodes poorly for the US-Taliban deal

    US-Taliban peace talks are nearing their conclusion, but a terror attack in Afghanistan’s capital that killed at least 63 people gives credence to critics who claim the deal will be a disaster for Afghans.

    By Zeeshan Aleem Aug 18, 2019

    An Afghan security official keeps watch over the hall attacked by a suicide bomber during a wedding on August 18, 2019. Haroon Sabawoon/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images A suicide-bomb blast killed at least 63 people at a wedding party in Kabul on Saturday night, and injured 182 more.

    It was the most lethal attack in Afghanistan’s capital this year, and it comes at a sensitive time: the US and the Taliban are in the final stages of negotiating a deal that would allow the US to withdraw its troops from the country provided that certain security goals are met.
    The Taliban denied responsibility for the attack and condemned it, and the local affiliate of ISIS claimed that it was behind the bombing.
    https://www.vox.com/world/2019/8/18/...ban-peace-deal


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    By ARIEL BEN SOLOMON
    Iranian Army Chief of Staff Gen. Hassan Firouzabadi claimed Wednesday that Israel created and supports the terrorist Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.
    “ISIS is Israel’s cover up for distancing the revolutionary forces from Israeli borders and creating a margin of security for the Zionists, and the Zionist media have also admitted this fact,” he said, Fars News Agency reported.
    ISIS recently took areas in northern Iraq.
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    Israeli agents bombed Western buildings, tried to make it seem as though Muslim Brotherhood was behind the attacks

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    The agents were told "to undermine the West's trust in the [Egyptian] government by causing public insecurity" while concealing Israel's role in the sabotage.
    Israeli officials feared that British troop withdrawal from the Canal zone would encourage Egyptian aggressiveness toward Israel and remove Western leverage to modify Egyptian behavior.
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    https://www.wrmea.org/1992-july/the-lavon-affair-when-israel-firebombed-u.s.-installations.html


    Syria: The Strange US/Israel/Al-Qaeda Ménage à Trois
    A little more than a week after the extremists linked to Al-Qaeda by our own US government set up and murdered Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has announced that the United States would send an additional $45 million to the very same Al-Qaeda’s Syrian franchise.
    Yes you read that right: The US is sending another $45 million to assist in Syria the same people it is fighting in Afghanistan and the same people who killed US Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya.
    Interestingly, the US, Israel, and Al-Qaeda all agree that the rebels in Syria, many of whom are foreign jihadists, must succeed in overthrowing the Assad government. That is like an all-you-can-eat luncheon buffet in front of hungry conspiracy theorists.
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/...enage-a-trois/

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  9. #97
    One cool thing about Obama era was that motivated critics used to come up with cool graphics in media related to debt spending, unfortunateky that trend has gone down lately since the rise of MAGA First Patriotism:



    Here's how much aid the US wants to send foreign countries in 2015, and why (INFOGRAPHIC)


    The Obama administration wants to give Israel more than $3 billion. Will it get it?


    The United States gives a lot of money to the world. How do you think it's being spent?
    To help you answer that question, we used data from the US State Department to create a series of charts detailing all the requests for foreign aid made by the US government for the fiscal year 2015.
    Aid from the United States to foreign nations is funneled through nine government agencies. The charts below contain complete data sets from the US Agency for International Development, the US African Development Foundation, the Peace Corps and the Inter-American Foundation.
    Only partial data are available from the Millennium Challenge Corporation and the US departments of the Treasury, Agriculture, State, and Defense. Still, the data provide insight into who's likely to get the most foreign aid and what the money is going toward.

    The charts below show how much money is being requested for foreign countries and for what. They are grouped by region. The box next to each bar indicates the largest area for which US aid money is being sought, and shows the percentage that category comprises of the total requested US assistance for that nation.
    North America


    Central & South America


    Africa


    Middle East


    Europe


    Asia


    ..


    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...-requests-2015









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  10. #98

  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    MAGA's America-First team seems to have opposite view unfortunately.
    I know.Trump want's the jewish vote. But have will not get the jewish vote.I as a New Yorker know many jews almost all of them are liberals,
    the only jews who vote Republican are orthodox jews.

  12. #100
    If he won't even get most of the US Jewish vote (that is 1-2% of US vote?) as you said, what explains his policies as what one prominent neoconservative called 'the most pro-Israel President in US history"?

    Some anti-semitic leaning theories have in the past without any proof claimed that 'Jewish vote' is often euphemism for 'Jewish money' that reportedly accounted for upto 60% of US Political funding.
    A famous US Congresswoman recently had even made shocking claim that Israel lobbies bribed US politicians to influence US mideast/wars policies etc, MAGA had boldly asked her to resign over her anti-semitic statement.

  13. #101
    If this is confirmed, theories about Liz Warren being a pawn of Deep Neocons may have been greatly exaggerated:


    The theme of the J Street conference was conditioning aid to Israel, but where’s the action?

    Michael Arria on October 28, 2019


    Senator Bernie Sanders speaking at the J Street conference (J Street Twitter)

    A major theme has emerged at this year’s annual J Street conference: conditioning U.S. military aid to Israel.
    Jeremy Ben-Ami, president of the liberal Jewish nonprofit, set the tone on the first day of the conference. “Our aid is not intended to be a blank check,” he declared. At a press conference the next day, he revealed that the group would push for legislation that regulates how aid money is used by Israel.
    The first Democratic presidential candidate to be interviewed at the event was Senator Amy Klobuchar. Former Obama administration officials Ben Rhodes and Tommy Vietor asked the Minnesota centrist whether she would leverage aid money in an effort to pressure Israel. “I think we are at this moment and time where it is not a good idea to negotiate these things right now,” she responded before moving the subject to a broader discussion about President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu.
    Klobuchar was the only candidate who seemingly dodged the question. Colorado Senator Michael Bennet said he would have to weigh the validity of such moves. Julian Castro said he was prepared to condition aid to Israel in order top stop a potential annexation of the West Bank. “My hope is that we can work like crazy so we don’t get to that point,” said Castro, “I would not take it off the table. I want to focus on what we can do hopefully with a new government, and a new president.”
    South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg doubled down on his earlier embrace of the same annexation point, but this time he seemed imply that he might be open to conditioning aid over settlement expansion as well. “We need to make sure that any such cooperation and funding is going to things that are compatible with U.S. objectives and U.S. law,” he said, “It is a reminder that we need to have the visibility to know whether U.S. funds are being used in a way that are not compatible with U.S. policy.”
    The most forceful endorsement of such policies came from Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders (who also received the loudest cheers from the audience.) Not only did he endorse the idea of conditioning aid, he also indicated that some of the aid should immediately go towards Gaza’s humanitarian crisis. “My solution is to say to Israel: you get $3.8 billion every year, if you want military aid you’re going to have to fundamentally change your relationship to the people of Gaza, in fact I think it is fair to say that some of that should go right now into humanitarian aid,” said Sanders.

    "My solution is to say to Israel: you get $3.8 bil every year, if you want military aid you're going to have to fundamentally change your relationship to the people of Gaza, in fact I think it is fair to say that some of that should go right now into humanitarian aid" #JSt2019 pic.twitter.com/z5WmEEjbxI
    — People for Bernie (@People4Bernie) October 28, 2019

    Last week presidential candidate and Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren said she’d be open to conditioning aid over the issue of settlement expansion. “Right now, Netanyahu says he is going to take Israel in a direction of increasing settlements, [but] that does not move us in the direction of a two-state solution. It is the official policy of the United States of America to support a two-state solution, and if Israel is moving in the opposite direction, then everything is on the table…Everything is on the table.”

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/10/the-t...es-the-action/

  14. #102
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    In 2018, 6.7 million Syrians were in other countries after fleeing the conflict

    These countries housed the most Syrians


    • Turkey
      3.6 million
    • Lebanon
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    • Jordan
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    • Germany
      532,000
    • Iraq
      253,000
    • Egypt
      133,000
    • Sweden
      109,000
    • Sudan
      94,000
    • Austria
      49,000
    • Netherlands
      32,000


    pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/numbers-syrian-refugees-around-world/

  15. #103

  16. #104
    In defiance of popular opinion, DNC rejects motion to condition aid to Israel over annexation

    By Michael Arria July 28, 2020

    On Monday, the Democratic National Committee’s platform committee voted down an amendment that would have added the word “occupation” to its platform and conditioned aid to Israel if the country moved forward with its proposed annexation of the West Bank.

    The motion was proposed by Bernie Sanders delegate Clem Balanoff, the executive director of Our Revolution’s Illinois chapter. The proposed amendment would have asserted that Palestinians have the right to live “without occupation” and added a line declaring that United States aid should not be used “to facilitate annexation or violate Palestinian rights.”

    “At a time when hundreds of thousands of Americans have been marching in our streets – and many of you on this call – for equality and civil rights, it is unconscionable for the Democratic Party not to speak truthfully to the Palestinians efforts to secure those same rights,” Balanoff told the committee.

    Former US ambassador to Israel, Dan Shapiro, and former undersecretary of state for political affairs, Wendy Sherman, both spoke out against the amendment during the meeting. Shapiro said that Demcrats “ought to speak with one voice about our support for our ally Israel, and our support of the right of Palestinians to live in a state of their own..we should not let disagreements about words or specific policies threaten our party’s unity.”

    https://mondoweiss.net/2020/07/in-de...er-annexation/


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  18. #105
    National debt and budget deficits multiply, Merica First party took WH but nothing can put a dent in foreign aid welfare:

    US Senate foreign aid funding bill holds spending steady, leaves out COVID-19

    By Adva Saldinger // 11 November 2020

    The Senate Committee on Appropriations has released its fiscal year 2021 funding bills. Photo by: John Guccione from PexelsWASHINGTON — The Senate’s fiscal year 2021 state and foreign operations budget bill provides roughly the same amount of funding for aid as last year, though it has a couple of notable differences from the House of Representatives bill — including no emergency COVID-19 funding.

    The bill, released by the Senate Committee on Appropriations Tuesday, includes $55.2 billion for state and foreign operations spending, well above President Donald Trump’s request, which would have substantially cut the aid budget and about the same amount that the Senate proposed last year.
    House boosts foreign aid funding, adds $10B for COVID-19 response
    The U.S. House of Representatives appropriations committee has released its annual funding bill for fiscal year 2021. Here's a breakdown of where funds are going and the details of the COVID-19 response funding that's included.

    The Senate bill provides a slight increase in funding for global health funding above what was enacted in fiscal year 2020 and included a $175 million increase for global health security funding. The House bill proposed $805 million for family planning, while the Senate includes $461 million, which is the most significant difference in the global health budget between the two.

    devex.com/news/us-senate-foreign-aid-funding-bill-holds-spending-steady-leaves-out-covid-19-98523

  19. #106
    The silverlining of this post election mess, perpetual wasteful foreign aid has been brought into focus by Prez Trump:

    https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status...43801715593216



    Trump Threatens to Reject COVID Relief Bill Over 'Wasteful' Foreign Aid, Echoing '$500m for Israel' Uproar

    The Associated Press
    Washington, D.C.
    23.12.2020

    WASHINGTON — U.S. President Donald Trump has threatened on to derail months of bipartisan work, which included the participation of his own administration, on a massive COVID-19 relief package in the midst of a raging pandemic and deep economic uncertainty, suddenly demanding changes fellow Republicans have opposed. In a video tweeted out on Tuesday night, Trump cited both the inadequately low direct payments to U.S. citizens and a range of foreign aid provisions that were part of a separate omnibus bill.

    Citing "$85.5 million for assistance to Cambodia, $134 million to Burma, $1.3 billion for Egypt and the Egyptian military, which will go out and buy almost exclusively Russian military equipment," Trump urged Congress to “get rid of the wasteful and unnecessary items from this legislation and to send me a suitable bill.”

    Trump's apparent misunderstanding of the fact that the stimulus deal was included in a broader year-end spending package (including the 2021 Pentagon spending bill, which covers foreign aid for a number of U.S. allies) echoed the uproar seen on social media this week after observers noted the bill included “$500 million for Israeli cooperation,” with a large percentage of that dedicated to missile defense systems. This seemingly disparate allocation of funds – considering negotiators could only agree on $600 stimulus checks for individual U.S. citizens – triggered much outrage on social media, to the point where “$500,000,000 for Israel” was trending on social media worldwide.

    Eric Trump, the president's son, also tweeted an image detailing the foreign aid included in the omnibus bill - including the $500m allotted to "Isreal" - echoing his father's criticism and misperception of the legislation in question.

  20. #107
    Most of Dems and both current wings of GOP (Adelson/MAGA and Cheney-Romney wings are silent currently but few Dems voices are joining call to end US taxpayers funding to so called blowback generating 'apartheid' in mideast. Source is MSM but reporting checks out:


    ‘Not $1’: US lawmaker urges end to complicity in Israeli abuses


    Congresswoman Betty McCollum tells Al Jazeera about effort to ensure Israel doesn’t use US aid to violate Palestinian rights.
    8 May 2021

    Over the past several years, US Congresswoman Betty McCollum has tried to spur a debate in the United States about the billions of dollars that Washington sends to Israel each year.
    The Democrat from Minnesota wants to know more about just where the money is going, while ensuring that Israel is not using US military assistance to commit human rights abuses against Palestinians.
    aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/8/us-lawmaker-urges-end-to-complicity-in-israeli-abuses


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  21. #108
    'Forever Interventions' never ending cycle of funding both sides continues. AzerB and Armenia have been battling each other, earlier US taxpayers aid was being given to Azerb and now it will be given to the opposing side.
    In the past Reagan MAGA/Carter wing used to fund Jihadeen militants when they were attacking Soviet Infidels and since then taxpayers funding in $Trillions is being spent on the opposing side (after WTC 1/2/7).


    U.S. House passes FY2022 Foreign Aid Bill urging $52 million in U.S aid to Artsakh Republic and Armenia, cutting military aid to Azerbaijan

    July 29, 2021

    The U.S. House expressed concern over President Joe Biden’s April 23rd waiver of Section 907 restrictions on U.S. aid to Azerbaijan, citing its contribution to the disparity in U.S. military assistance to Armenia and Azerbaijan, in a report accompanying the Fiscal Year 2022 Foreign Aid Bill (H.R.4373), adopted by a vote of 217 to 213, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA).
    “We welcome today’s U.S. House report language as a meaningful step, alongside today’s adoption of the Pallone Amendment, toward rolling back President Biden’s reckless waiver of Section 907 and, more broadly, stopping all U.S. arms and aid to Azerbaijan’s oil-rich, racist, and openly anti-Armenian Aliyev regime,” said ANCA Government Affairs Director Tereza Yerimyan. “Not a single U.S. tax dollar should ever be shipped to the Azerbaijani military to kill, cripple, or capture Armenians.”

    The report accompanying the H.R.4373 also calls for not less than $50 million in U.S. assistance to Armenia, “for economic development, private sector productivity, energy independence, democracy and the rule of law, and other purposes.” It urges not less than $2 million for demining activities in Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh). The recommendation for U.S. assistance to Armenia is over twice that requested by President Biden in his FY2022 proposed budget, which remains silent on the matter of U.S. assistance to Artsakh.
    en.armradio.am/2021/07/29/u-s-house-passes-fy2022-foreign-aid-bill-urging-52-million-in-u-s-aid-to-artsakh-republic-and-armenia-cutting-military-aid-to-azerbaijan/



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  22. #109
    Progressive Dems turning on Deep Neocons (globalist faction)?



    Democrats yank $1B for Israeli missile defense from doomed shutdown and debt patch


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  23. #110
    Well, somebody is earning his paycheck. lol
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  24. #111
    I'll see your ending foreign aid immediately, and raise you ending foreign and domestic aid immediately.

  25. #112
    No, not all of it or immediately.
    It can be used rightly for national interests in some cases.

    Even though I'm sure nobody in power would agree with ME on those cases.
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."



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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    No, not all of it or immediately.
    It can be used rightly for national interests in some cases.

    Even though I'm sure nobody in power would agree with ME on those cases.
    In that case, a rephrased question:
    Would you support ending US taxpayers aid to our closest ally in mideast?

    Options in Israel - POLL

    Many see the lobby (parasitic wing) of that ally playing a major role in recent US global wars/mideast destabilization and flooding of Europe with refugees/America's economic & socio-politico-cultural decline.







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    pinion: Israel’s prime minister is not seeking a reset. He just wants more cover for apartheid and colonization.
    August 26, 2021
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  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    In that case, a rephrased question:
    Would you support ending US taxpayers aid to our closest ally in mideast?
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    In that case, a rephrased question:
    Would you support ending US taxpayers aid to our closest ally in mideast?
    How did you guess?

    As a matter of fact, when I was considering which small group of foreign governments deserve some assistance, and I mean assistance that can manifest in various ways, not exclusively monetary, and in some cases not monetary at all, but still relevant, some of them were the Zionist Entity's persecuted and ravaged neighbors, formerly stable and modern states which "we", a.k.a. "THE UNITED STATES" - owes a debt of recompense to. Yes, I believe the government of "THE UNITED STATES" should seek to make amends, inadequate as they might be, to Syria, Lebanon, The Palestinian State (which I would immediately recognize), and Iraq.

    There are a handful of other nation states around the world which I would like to assist in some way. In most cases, that assistance wouldn't be given in the wasteful, corrupt method by which "our" government has "given" aid in the past. For example, with the stroke of a pen, and costing nothing, sanctions, blockades, and surreptitious intelligence and paramilitary operations against "regimes" the previous government sought to overthrow would, in some cases, be lifted. New trade deals and specific industrial contracts could be formed, according to the needs of those nations to be stable, especially in the medical and infrastructure sectors. You understand, Russia and China are picking up partners around the world that "our" country deems adversarial, solely for the reason that their governments are not allied or subjugated to the wills of the most powerful groups and individuals in Washington, D.C. and London.

    You know, it was just last week when "the radical left" of the Democratic Party forced the "mainstream Democrats" and President Biden to not include an automatic, full refill of the Iron Dome "defense" system that "we" built for the Zionist Entity so that it might slaughter the Palestinians without suffering the consquences. I'm certainly against all of the domestic programs of these people, but isn't it funny how the Republicans wouldn't have done such a thing? But don't worry, the "Israelis" will still get the Iron Dome we gave them refilled with American tax dollars, one way or another. There is a very likely movement happening among the Swamp in D.C. right now to build a similar Iron Dome system for the Zionist satellite in Eastern Europe, Khazaria 2.0, d.b.a. "Ukraine". I'm sure many pockets will be filled, even if there is no real military application, and very few Republicans will complain about THAT.

    I would immediately withdraw from Iraq and Syria, assist the redevelopment of those countries, encourage the repatriation of Iraqi and Syrian refugees from Europe, the waves of which "we" bear total responsibility for, and not treat the Zionist Entity as an enemy (unless they do something to deserve it from here forward), but rescind the Trump-Biden "recognition" of the Golan Heights as Zionist territory. I would encourage peace in the region and integrate the Islamic Republic of Iran in negotiations, forcing the Zionists to look the Iranians in the eye, in a new summit that would be followed by another with Putin and Xi. You see, I believe it is in the best interest not only of Arabs but also of the Zionist people to be encouraged not to seek military "solutions" to deep-seated disagreements that have resulted in, and could result further into a truly regrettable catastrophe, but rather to find a way to embrace humanity outside themselves; something they need a helping hand to accomplish.

    There would be great savings, none of this would cost a penny, for example, "we" wouldn't even have most of those bases around the world anymore, certainly not in Germany, Italy, or South Korea. I don't believe in occuping defeated enemies perpetually just to line the pockets of connected political interests.
    Last edited by Snowball; 09-23-2021 at 07:30 AM.
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."

  29. #115
    Voted NO as I think the current spending of foreign aid should continue.

    But I do think that the foreign aid spending should entirely be sent to TheTexan
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  30. #116



    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Well, somebody is earning his paycheck. lol
    Strong statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    How did you guess?

    As a matter of fact, when I was considering which small group of foreign governments deserve some assistance, and I mean assistance that can manifest in various ways, not exclusively monetary, and in some cases not monetary at all, but still relevant, some of them were the Zionist Entity's persecuted and ravaged neighbors, formerly stable and modern states which "we", a.k.a. "THE UNITED STATES" - owes a debt of recompense to. Yes, I believe the government of "THE UNITED STATES" should seek to make amends, inadequate as they might be, to Syria, Lebanon, The Palestinian State (which I would immediately recognize), and Iraq.

    There are a handful of other nation states around the world which I would like to assist in some way. In most cases, that assistance wouldn't be given in the wasteful, corrupt method by which "our" government has "given" aid in the past. For example, with the stroke of a pen, and costing nothing, sanctions, blockades, and surreptitious intelligence and paramilitary operations against "regimes" the previous government sought to overthrow would, in some cases, be lifted. New trade deals and specific industrial contracts could be formed, according to the needs of those nations to be stable, especially in the medical and infrastructure sectors. You understand, Russia and China are picking up partners around the world that "our" country deems adversarial, solely for the reason that their governments are not allied or subjugated to the wills of the most powerful groups and individuals in Washington, D.C. and London.

    You know, it was just last week when "the radical left" of the Democratic Party forced the "mainstream Democrats" and President Biden to not include an automatic, full refill of the Iron Dome "defense" system that "we" built for the Zionist Entity so that it might slaughter the Palestinians without suffering the consquences. I'm certainly against all of the domestic programs of these people, but isn't it funny how the Republicans wouldn't have done such a thing? But don't worry, the "Israelis" will still get the Iron Dome we gave them refilled with American tax dollars, one way or another. There is a very likely movement happening among the Swamp in D.C. right now to build a similar Iron Dome system for the Zionist satellite in Eastern Europe, Khazaria 2.0, d.b.a. "Ukraine". I'm sure many pockets will be filled, even if there is no real military application, and very few Republicans will complain about THAT.

    I would immediately withdraw from Iraq and Syria, assist the redevelopment of those countries, encourage the repatriation of Iraqi and Syrian refugees from Europe, the waves of which "we" bear total responsibility for, and not treat the Zionist Entity as an enemy (unless they do something to deserve it from here forward), but rescind the Trump-Biden "recognition" of the Golan Heights as Zionist territory. I would encourage peace in the region and integrate the Islamic Republic of Iran in negotiations, forcing the Zionists to look the Iranians in the eye, in a new summit that would be followed by another with Putin and Xi. You see, I believe it is in the best interest not only of Arabs but also of the Zionist people to be encouraged not to seek military "solutions" to deep-seated disagreements that have resulted in, and could result further into a truly regrettable catastrophe, but rather to find a way to embrace humanity outside themselves; something they need a helping hand to accomplish.

    There would be great savings, none of this would cost a penny, for example, "we" wouldn't even have most of those bases around the world anymore, certainly not in Germany, Italy, or South Korea. I don't believe in occuping defeated enemies perpetually just to line the pockets of connected political interests.

    Was lucky guess : )

    Thoughtful views on our misguided mideast/foreign policy.. even if would be quite controversial in today's political culture.

    Biggest hurdle in cutting foreign aid to regimes implicated in war crimes, oppression, torture etc has been the lobby of the only non-racist democracy in mideast that seems adept at buying politicians. But slowly things are changing.
    On some key issues, GOP has showed that it's 'party of small minds'.

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Strong statement.
    Is it? It is true, isn't?

    Not that you're as bad as Sonny Tufts and The$#@!. Ron Paul, after all, wanted to cut off Israel. But if you stiffly support towelhead debauchery, well that's another story.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  32. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Is it? It is true, isn't?
    Off topic banter can be fun but main topic should not be completely ignored. Before such a leading question on a potentially triggering topic is tackled, why don't you first answer the above simple poll question.

    Would you support ending all US foreign aid immediately?



    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post

    Ron Paul, after all, wanted to cut off Israel.
    Do you also agree with Ilhan Omar's views on Israel lobby's role in buying US politicians.. or more of Trump school of thought on that?

    Trump calls on Ilhan Omar to resign from Congress for ‘anti-Semitism’



    Do you think some well-funded politicians had inadvertently enabled anti-semitism against people of Iraq (ahead of Iraqi Freedom war blunder of 2003) and towards Palestinian people in recent decades?


    Had commented on your facinating one liners on bathroom accessories in the Afgahn refugees discussion, might add to my comment there.

  33. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Putting aside glaring contradictions for a moment, was below question too hard to answer?

    You never answered my question, so you tell me.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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