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    Are these people Libertarians?

    I don't know a lot about politics, but a friend of mine has told me that the following political groups are trying to basically take over the world in order to prevent any more wars.

    1. The Club of Rome
    2. The Council on Foreign relations
    3. The Bilderberg Group
    4. The Committee of Three Hundred
    5. The Trilateral Commission

    I know all these groups actually exist because I have looked them up on Google.

    I also know that Libertarians champion individual rights, which would obviously be destroyed in the event of a war situation. So I'm wondering if these groups have Libertarian ideas on this matter.

    And if they don't have Libertarian ideas, what ideas do they have to prevents wars?

    Thanks everyone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by VIDEODROME View Post
    Yes
    OK. Thanks.

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    Absolutely not, those groups want to micromanage your life and they are more than happy to cause wars to get what they want.
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    Real vegetarians devour vegetables.
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    So it follows that real libertarians must devour liberals.
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  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Absolutely not, those groups want to micromanage your life and they are more than happy to cause wars to get what they want.
    Yes, apparently they are what's known as 'Globalists'.

    But I don't know if they have any real power to actually do anything.

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Grisham View Post
    Yes, apparently they are what's known as 'Globalists'.

    But I don't know if they have any real power to actually do anything.
    Their members have power and they get things done.
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    You know, he may be asking a serious question...would be nice if one of us gave him an in depth serious answer.

    Swordsymth at least tried.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    ...the following political groups are trying to basically take over the world in order to prevent any more wars.

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    tl;dr-none of those are libertarian groups.
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  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You know, he may be asking a serious question...would be nice if one of us gave him an in depth serious answer.
    I agree.

    It would be good to see a genuine Libertarian analysis of what these so called 'Globalist' groups actually do, instead of the contradictory stuff you can find on the internet.

    If I had the knowledge I would attempt it myself. But unfortunately I don't.
    Last edited by Steve Grisham; 10-17-2018 at 09:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I don't know a lot about politics, but a friend of mine has told me that the following political groups are trying to basically take over the world in order to prevent any more wars.

    1. The Club of Rome
    2. The Council on Foreign relations
    3. The Bilderberg Group
    4. The Committee of Three Hundred
    5. The Trilateral Commission

    I know all these groups actually exist because I have looked them up on Google.

    I also know that Libertarians champion individual rights, which would obviously be destroyed in the event of a war situation. So I'm wondering if these groups have Libertarian ideas on this matter.

    And if they don't have Libertarian ideas, what ideas do they have to prevents wars?

    Thanks everyone.
    Woah dude,, they do not prevent wars,, they cause and feed off the misery..

    Your initial premise is incorrect..
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    The groups that you mention actually are the worlds power if they want to play war they will play war if they want to play peace they will play peace but, either way probably a lot of people will die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I don't know a lot about politics, but a friend of mine has told me that the following political groups are trying to basically take over the world in order to prevent any more wars.

    1. The Club of Rome
    2. The Council on Foreign relations
    3. The Bilderberg Group
    4. The Committee of Three Hundred
    5. The Trilateral Commission

    I know all these groups actually exist because I have looked them up on Google.

    I also know that Libertarians champion individual rights, which would obviously be destroyed in the event of a war situation. So I'm wondering if these groups have Libertarian ideas on this matter.

    And if they don't have Libertarian ideas, what ideas do they have to prevents wars?

    Thanks everyone.
    America seeks to dominate the world to maintain a 25% energy use for 5% of the world's population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    America seeks to dominate the world to maintain a 25% energy use for 5% of the world's population.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    America seeks to dominate the world to maintain a 25% energy use for 5% of the world's population.
    How else are we going to feed your lazy ass?

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    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.



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    All of them espouse a classic liberalism, so Libertarian is befitting them as any here.

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I don't know a lot about politics, but a friend of mine has told me that the following political groups are trying to basically take over the world in order to prevent any more wars.

    1. The Club of Rome
    2. The Council on Foreign relations
    3. The Bilderberg Group
    4. The Committee of Three Hundred
    5. The Trilateral Commission

    I know all these groups actually exist because I have looked them up on Google.

    I also know that Libertarians champion individual rights, which would obviously be destroyed in the event of a war situation. So I'm wondering if these groups have Libertarian ideas on this matter.

    And if they don't have Libertarian ideas, what ideas do they have to prevents wars?

    Thanks everyone.
    I am unaware of any Liberty principles practiced by these organizations .
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    They are the antithesis of liberty.

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  23. #20
    ya missed one

    the UN
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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I don't know a lot about politics, but a friend of mine has told me that the following political groups are trying to basically take over the world in order to prevent any more wars.

    1. The Club of Rome
    2. The Council on Foreign relations
    3. The Bilderberg Group
    4. The Committee of Three Hundred
    5. The Trilateral Commission

    I know all these groups actually exist because I have looked them up on Google.

    I also know that Libertarians champion individual rights, which would obviously be destroyed in the event of a war situation. So I'm wondering if these groups have Libertarian ideas on this matter.

    And if they don't have Libertarian ideas, what ideas do they have to prevents wars?

    Thanks everyone.
    In their own way Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine were trying to end war by killing anyone that opposed them. And Thanos just wanted to cure universal hunger by killing half of the universe. Just having stated aims of world peace does not make you libertarian.
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  25. #22
    Hello all,

    While here we are trying to argue if the aforementioned people are Libertarians or not, on the other side trillions of your dollars are being wasted on wars!

    Did you guys know that every year the world is spending more than 2 trillion dollars on maintaining armed forces?


    Only 20% of that money could have gone into easily finding a cure to cancer!!

    Don't believe it?? Read what this latest research has to say ...

    ( Are these facts really true??)


    I know a lot of you will find this statement controversial, but I personally feel cancer cure> wars..

    Do let me know your thoughts...

    Cheerios!

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by doctorallen View Post
    Hello all,

    While here we are trying to argue if the aforementioned people are Libertarians or not, on the other side trillions of your dollars are being wasted on wars!

    Did you guys know that every year the world is spending more than 2 trillion dollars on maintaining armed forces?


    Only 20% of that money could have gone into easily finding a cure to cancer!!

    Don't believe it?? Read what this latest research has to say ...

    ( Are these facts really true??)


    I know a lot of you will find this statement controversial, but I personally feel cancer cure> wars..

    Do let me know your thoughts...

    Cheerios!


    We had no idea.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by doctorallen View Post
    Hello all,

    While here we are trying to argue if the aforementioned people are Libertarians or not, on the other side trillions of your dollars are being wasted on wars!

    Did you guys know that every year the world is spending more than 2 trillion dollars on maintaining armed forces?


    Only 20% of that money could have gone into easily finding a cure to cancer!!

    Don't believe it?? Read what this latest research has to say ...

    ( Are these facts really true??)


    I know a lot of you will find this statement controversial, but I personally feel cancer cure> wars..

    Do let me know your thoughts...

    Cheerios!
    If government spent the money no cure would be found.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Both the Fascists and Communists of the 20th century had a goal of freedom and liberation for humanity. However they followed a European idea of liberty propagated by Georg Hegel. What was important was not the freedom of the individual. That seemed meaningless. They instead aimed for the freedom of the 'nation' through the state.

    Morality and freedom for the individual came from being aligned with the family and aligned with the state. Freedom for humanity would come from a triumphant Germany run by the workers spreading freedom.

    In setting up such a state, anything that helps it to be secure and strong is permissible, including oppression, genocides, wars of aggression, etc. Individuals don't matter per se. Once the State is set up to be healthy and free then all the people within it will also be free by definition.



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  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by doctorallen View Post
    Hello all,

    While here we are trying to argue if the aforementioned people are Libertarians or not, on the other side trillions of your dollars are being wasted on wars!
    And you want to give the same people more money in the hope they will suddenly do right with it?

    besides,, the Cure for cancer IS ALREADY KNOWN.

    Cannabis

    The cure for government is more elusive.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post

    The cure for government is more elusive.
    Nah... According to many in here, the cure for government is more government.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by doctorallen View Post
    Hello all,

    While here we are trying to argue if the aforementioned people are Libertarians or not, on the other side trillions of your dollars are being wasted on wars!

    Did you guys know that every year the world is spending more than 2 trillion dollars on maintaining armed forces?


    Only 20% of that money could have gone into easily finding a cure to cancer!!

    Don't believe it?? Read what this latest research has to say ...

    ( Are these facts really true??)


    I know a lot of you will find this statement controversial, but I personally feel cancer cure> wars..

    Do let me know your thoughts...

    Cheerios!
    Curing cancer would cost a lot of people their jobs.

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