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    The Real Reason We Should Break With The Saudis

    The Real Reason We Should Break With The Saudis

    Thursday October 11, 2018

    Sudden concern in Washington over Saudi behavior is puzzling. But the disappearance of a Washington Post writer and the suspicion that the Saudi government is involved has led Washington and particularly the Senate and House to demand some answers. They didn't care much about Saudi involvement with terrorists in Syria or the evil Saudi war on Yemen. Should we break with the Saudis? Yes. Why? Tune in to today's Liberty Report:

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    It'll never happen. The Saudis will provide a fall guy first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    It'll never happen. The Saudis will provide a fall guy first.
    Hillary?

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    Very difficult to let go from a group who have been paid and helped by America, in return for access to energy.

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    Be careful what you wish for. They may be a bad actor, but they are also the lynch pin of the petrodollar which sustains our standard of living. I really don't see us giving them the Libya treatment if they decide to start selling their oil in Euros or something other than the dollar.
    I compiled a "brief" history of events since October 2008 that are defining the global currency war and the role that gold is playing:

    Tin Foil Hats, Economic Reality and the Total Perspective Vortex

    Also, have you contacted your Congressional Rep and asked them co-sponsor Ron Paul's Rep. Paul Broun Jr.'s HR 1098 77: Free Competition in Currencies Act?

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    So a libertarian who is actually realistic about America's foreign relation with another state, and has to be aware that one can't read the diktat of a long dead head of state who was an advocate of non entangling alliances when one loves petroleum, gosh some folk have been watching too much star trek. Nice cheap, but hard energy from the Earth. Yeah drill baby drill!

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    There are so many to choose from:
    • Yemen
    • dictatorship
    • totalitarian
    • beheadings
    • Wahhabist
    • manufactures, funds, arms extremist terorrists
    • civil rights atrocities
    • Censorship
    • Religious oppression
    • anti-liberty
    • ...
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    Quit selling our excess abroad? Heresy!



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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Hillary?
    I'd take it, if it got a rope around its neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    So a libertarian who is actually realistic about America's foreign relation with another state, and has to be aware that one can't read the diktat of a long dead head of state who was an advocate of non entangling alliances when one loves petroleum, gosh some folk have been watching too much star trek. Nice cheap, but hard energy from the Earth. Yeah drill baby drill!
    Are you suggesting we abandon petroleum?

    I hope you realize that as things currently stand, civilization would collapse in every locus that is not "third-world". Food would become very scarce, medicine would all but disappear, no more cars, powered flight... though I bet there'd be plenty of vertical flight straight downward as the new reality became too much to cope with for millions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Are you suggesting we abandon petroleum?
    ...
    The completely invisible elephant in the room is that all we really need to do is change our monetary policy and we become free of dependence upon the petrodollar and Saudi Arabia. Enact Ron Paul's old competing currencies bill. Let FRNs live or die by market dynamics that no longer govern the fate of the nation. $.02
    I compiled a "brief" history of events since October 2008 that are defining the global currency war and the role that gold is playing:

    Tin Foil Hats, Economic Reality and the Total Perspective Vortex

    Also, have you contacted your Congressional Rep and asked them co-sponsor Ron Paul's Rep. Paul Broun Jr.'s HR 1098 77: Free Competition in Currencies Act?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    The completely invisible elephant in the room is that all we really need to do is change our monetary policy and we become free of dependence upon the petrodollar and Saudi Arabia. Enact Ron Paul's old competing currencies bill. Let FRNs live or die by market dynamics that no longer govern the fate of the nation. $.02
    That requires men of vision and courage.


    Good luck with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    The completely invisible elephant in the room is that all we really need to do is change our monetary policy and we become free of dependence upon the petrodollar and Saudi Arabia. Enact Ron Paul's old competing currencies bill. Let FRNs live or die by market dynamics that no longer govern the fate of the nation. $.02
    Such a good point. We have to establish the value of the USD to something else besides the Petrodollar to break with Saudi, otherwise get ready for a free-fall.

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    The point being, some have advocated not having any kind of dodgy deals with other countries. It is a business, as well as America needs the imports. The shale fracking is temporary.

    Mr Paul said I don't have all the answers, or at least said something like that during his 2011 run, nobody was going to accept that from a leader. A leader must appear strong, and have a powerful government to do so, no liberty government is going to guarantee energy. Just a myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    The point being, some have advocated not having any kind of dodgy deals with other countries. It is a business, as well as America needs the imports. The shale fracking is temporary.

    Mr Paul said I don't have all the answers, or at least said something like that during his 2011 run, nobody was going to accept that from a leader. A leader must appear strong, and have a powerful government to do so, no liberty government is going to guarantee energy. Just a myth.
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