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  1. #91
    Tu-160 strategic bombers fly to Venezuela in strict compliance with int'l rules - Russian Defense Ministry
    TU-160S FLY OVER ATLANTIC OCEAN, BARENTS SEA, NORWEGIAN SEA, CARIBBEAN SEA IN STRICT COMPLIANCE WITH INT'L RULES - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY
    Interfax



    BREAKING: Venezuela and Russia will hold joint air force exercises, says the defense minister of the sanctions-hit South American country-@AFP

    Norwegian F-16 Jets Shadowed Russian Tu-160s en Route to Venezuela - MoD
    https://sputniknews.com/world/201812...norway-shadow/

    "At certain stages of the flight, the Tu-160 bombers were followed by F-16 fighter aircraft of the Norwegian Air Force while the flight was carried out in strict accordance with the international rules on the use of airspace," the ministry's press service said in a statement.



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  3. #92
    failed missile test in Kapustin Yar firing range:



    SouthFront
    "Russians Fought As If Their Own Country Is At Stake": Former SAA Soldier Gives Interview About His Experience In War
    https://southfront.org/russians-foug...rience-in-war/


    Al-Masdar News
    Russia calls on Arab League to restore Syria's membership
    https://aml.ink/M4o7U




    Venezuela:


    H.K
    Venezuela: Russia transports aircraft to Venezuela for drills (video)
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...-drills-video/




    A very important/captured 21st Century moment imo.





    reuters World
    Former Canadian diplomat detained in China: sources
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKBN1OA1EB
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-11-2018 at 09:24 AM.

  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Tu-160 strategic bombers fly to Venezuela in strict compliance with int'l rules - Russian Defense Ministry
    TU-160S FLY OVER ATLANTIC OCEAN, BARENTS SEA, NORWEGIAN SEA, CARIBBEAN SEA IN STRICT COMPLIANCE WITH INT'L RULES - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY
    Interfax



    BREAKING: Venezuela and Russia will hold joint air force exercises, says the defense minister of the sanctions-hit South American country-@AFP

    Norwegian F-16 Jets Shadowed Russian Tu-160s en Route to Venezuela - MoD
    https://sputniknews.com/world/201812...norway-shadow/

    "At certain stages of the flight, the Tu-160 bombers were followed by F-16 fighter aircraft of the Norwegian Air Force while the flight was carried out in strict accordance with the international rules on the use of airspace," the ministry's press service said in a statement.
    The White House announced late in the day Wednesday that Russia will withdraw its long range nuclear capable bombers parked in Venezuela since Monday which flew to Caracas on a 10,000km mission in a show of support for socialist President Nicolás Maduro. White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders stated "the planned departure came after the Trump administration spoke with Russian officials," according to a breaking WSJ report.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...house-pressure
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  5. #94
    lol fat mike

    Meanwhile Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had slammed Russia for sending the pair of bombers "halfway around the world" to Venezuela in comments posted to Twitter late Monday.
    “The Russian and Venezuelan people should see this for what it is: two corrupt governments squandering public funds, and squelching liberty and freedom while their people suffer,” Pompeo stated.



    Trump: "I could swap Huawei chief financial officer's freedom for a China trade deal."
    https://news.sky.com/story/trump-i-c...-deal-11578432


    Wow Trump using terrorist tactics kidnapping people in order to blackmail China into bowing to him.
    Imagine Russia if doing this.. Putin making statements like that... Lavrov making statements like Fat Mike.




    Al-Masdar News
    Russia’s strategic bombers spark panic among Venezuela’s opposition: official
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...tion-official/





    Ali Özkök
    China confirms that it has detained two Canadians as the row over the arrest of Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou continues
    https://www.trtworld.com/asia/detent...nada-row-22429
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-13-2018 at 07:04 AM.

  6. #95
    AFP
    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange appears via video at a Quito court hearing as he appeals against new protocols – Ecuador will no longer pay for his food and medical care, etc. - governing his stay at the Embassy in London



    thugaree... thugarahh.. thugarrahahahahaha...

  7. #96


    Rufina Amaya, 64, Dies; Salvador Survivor
    https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/w...www.google.com

    El Salvador: 30 Years after El Mozote
    https://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/el-s...zote-massacre/

    Survivors of Massacre Ask: ‘Why Did They Have to Kill Those Children?’
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/26/w...-massacre.html



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  9. #97
    Ali Özkök
    Turkish President Erdoğan:
    ‘’Criticizing Israel’s misbehavior is not anti-semitism”





    NEW RULES OF ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN SYRIA AND ISRAEL, AS RUSSIA CHANGES ITS POSITION
    https://ejmagnier.com/2018/12/14/new...-its-position/


    "Syria will adopt a new rule of engagement with Israel now that Russia has taken a tougher and clearer stance on the conflict between Israel and the “Axis of the Resistance.
    Henceforth, Damascus will be responding to any Israeli strike. If it damages a specific military target it will reply with a strike against a similar objective in Israel. Decision makers in Damascus said “Syria will not hesitate to hit an Israeli airport if Damascus airport is targeted and hit by Israel. This will be with the consent of the Russian military based in the Levant”."


    For many months, the Russian President Vladimir Putin refused to receive Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Only through real harassment by the latter did Putin finally accept to briefly meet with Netanyahu over lunch or around the dinner table during a large Summit or meeting of Heads of State, without however accepting any compromise or reconciliation. Russia has now taken a clear position and has no intention of extending its embrace or pardon to Israel. Russia felt that its generosity (by closing its eyes to Israel’s activities in Syria) was neither recognised nor sufficiently appreciated by Tel Aviv.



    This week, Moscow agreed to receive an Israeli military delegation led by Major-General Aharon Haliva, following Israel’s insistence on breaking the ice between the two countries. However, Russia’s position is not expected to change in Syria and no Israeli bombing of Syrian or Iranian targets will be tolerated.

    According to these sources, “Russia has informed Israel that there are Russian officers present at every Syrian or Iranian military base and that any strike against Syrian or Iranian objectives would hit Russian forces as well. Putin will not allow his soldiers and officers to be struck down by Israel’s direct or indirect bombing”.

    Moreover, Russia has given Syria the green light – said the source- to strike Israel at any time if and when Tel Aviv’s planes launch raids against Syrian military targets or launch long-range missiles without flying over Syria (for fear of the S-300 and to avoid seeing its jets downed over Syria or Lebanon).

    The source confirmed that Syria – contrary to what Israel claims – now has the most accurate missiles, which can hit any target inside Israel. The Syrian armed forces have received unrevealed long and medium-range missiles from Iran. These operate on the GLONASSsystem – the abbreviation for Globalnaya Navigazionnaya Sputnikovaya Sistema, the Russian version of the GPS.



    Thus, the delivery of Iran and the manufacture of missiles inside Syria (and Lebanon) is now complete. Israel, however, claims it has destroyed Syria’s missile capability, including that of the missiles delivered by Iran. According to the source, Damascus controls a very large number of precision missiles, notwithstanding those destroyed by Israel. “In Iran, the cheapest and most accessible items are the SABZI and the missiles”, said the source.

    The new Syrian rule of engagement – according to the source – is now as follows: an airport will be hit if Israel hits an airport, and any attack on a barracks or command and control centre will result in an attack on similar target in Israel. It appears that the decision has been taken at the highest level and a clear “bank of objectives” has now been set in place.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-14-2018 at 08:26 PM.

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Ali Özkök
    Turkish President Erdoğan:
    ‘’Criticizing Israel’s misbehavior is not anti-semitism”





    NEW RULES OF ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN SYRIA AND ISRAEL, AS RUSSIA CHANGES ITS POSITION
    https://ejmagnier.com/2018/12/14/new...-its-position/


    "Syria will adopt a new rule of engagement with Israel now that Russia has taken a tougher and clearer stance on the conflict between Israel and the “Axis of the Resistance.
    Henceforth, Damascus will be responding to any Israeli strike. If it damages a specific military target it will reply with a strike against a similar objective in Israel. Decision makers in Damascus said “Syria will not hesitate to hit an Israeli airport if Damascus airport is targeted and hit by Israel. This will be with the consent of the Russian military based in the Levant”."


    For many months, the Russian President Vladimir Putin refused to receive Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Only through real harassment by the latter did Putin finally accept to briefly meet with Netanyahu over lunch or around the dinner table during a large Summit or meeting of Heads of State, without however accepting any compromise or reconciliation. Russia has now taken a clear position and has no intention of extending its embrace or pardon to Israel. Russia felt that its generosity (by closing its eyes to Israel’s activities in Syria) was neither recognised nor sufficiently appreciated by Tel Aviv.



    This week, Moscow agreed to receive an Israeli military delegation led by Major-General Aharon Haliva, following Israel’s insistence on breaking the ice between the two countries. However, Russia’s position is not expected to change in Syria and no Israeli bombing of Syrian or Iranian targets will be tolerated.

    According to these sources, “Russia has informed Israel that there are Russian officers present at every Syrian or Iranian military base and that any strike against Syrian or Iranian objectives would hit Russian forces as well. Putin will not allow his soldiers and officers to be struck down by Israel’s direct or indirect bombing”.

    Moreover, Russia has given Syria the green light – said the source- to strike Israel at any time if and when Tel Aviv’s planes launch raids against Syrian military targets or launch long-range missiles without flying over Syria (for fear of the S-300 and to avoid seeing its jets downed over Syria or Lebanon).

    The source confirmed that Syria – contrary to what Israel claims – now has the most accurate missiles, which can hit any target inside Israel. The Syrian armed forces have received unrevealed long and medium-range missiles from Iran. These operate on the GLONASSsystem – the abbreviation for Globalnaya Navigazionnaya Sputnikovaya Sistema, the Russian version of the GPS. Thus, the delivery of Iran and the manufacture of missiles inside Syria (and Lebanon) is now complete. Israel, however, claims it has destroyed Syria’s missile capability, including that of the missiles delivered by Iran. According to the source, Damascus controls a very large number of precision missiles, notwithstanding those destroyed by Israel. “In Iran, the cheapest and most accessible items are the SABZI and the missiles”, said the source.

    The new Syrian rule of engagement – according to the source – is now as follows: an airport will be hit if Israel hits an airport, and any attack on a barracks or command and control centre will result in an attack on similar target in Israel. It appears that the decision has been taken at the highest level and a clear “bank of objectives” has now been set in place.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  11. #99
    TASS
    Press review: Russia to set up Caribbean base
    http://tass.com/pressreview/1035596



    Moscow is gearing up to establish a long-term military presence in Latin America and the current mission of the Tu-160 strategic bombers to Venezuela is part of this plan, Nezavisimaya Gazeta writes.

    According to military envoys, Russian authorities have made a decision (and Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro did not object) to deploy strategic aircraft to one of Venezuela’s islands in the Caribbean Sea, which has a naval base and a military airfield. Ten years ago, Russian experts and Armed Forces commanders had already visited the island of La Orchila, located 200 kilometers northeast of Caracas. Venezuelan laws prohibit the setup of military bases in the country, but a temporary deployment of warplanes is possible.

    "It is the right idea to include Venezuela in long-range aviation missions," military expert Colonel Shamil Gareyev told the newspaper, adding that it was also economically reasonable. "Our strategic bombers will not only not have to return to Russia every time, but also won't perform aerial refueling while on a patrol mission in the Americas. Our Tu-160 aircraft arrive to their base in Venezuela, conduct flights, execute their missions and are then replaced on a rotating basis. This is how it should be done," he said.

    Colonel Eduard Rodyukov, a Corresponding Member of the Academy of Military Sciences, in turn, told Nezavisimaya Gazeta that "the arrival of Russia’s Tu-160 strategic bombers to Central America is kind of a signal to Trump to make him realize that abandoning nuclear disarmament treaties will have a boomerang effect."

    According to Kommersant’s sources in Russian military management agencies, the Russian-Venezuelan agreement on the flight of two Tu-160 strategic bombers is mutually beneficial, since Caracas got a chance to exhibit its independent military policy and Russian pilots performed not just a simple training flight but covered a distance of more than 10,000 kilometers over the Atlantic Ocean, the Barents, the Norwegian and the Caribbean Seas.

    We are clearly helping the Venezuelan government stay afloat, Research Fellow at the Institute of Latin American Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences Emil Dabagyan told Kommersant. "Since Russia benefits from oil exploration, it wants the Venezuelan regime to stay in place," he added. As for Caracas, joint military drills with Russia and other activities of this kind are very important for it at the moment. According to the expert, Venezuelan authorities "seek to show their determination to protect the country from the potential aggression of the United States, who has been labeling the Maduro regime as illegitimate."


    More:
    http://tass.com/pressreview/1035596


    I propose they dedicate it as Camp Bolton.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-14-2018 at 09:21 PM.

  12. #100
    Davos lifts ban on participation of businessmen subjected to sanctions, official Russian delegation to attend forum - source
    Interfax

    Russia submits draft resolution to maintain INF Treaty to UNGA - Russia's mission to UN
    Interfax


    Syria

    Israel complains Hezbollah evades airstrikes in Syria by flying Russian flag - report
    https://aml.ink/OQkcI

    (srsly? omg...)

    U.S. troops will now stay in Syria indefinitely, controlling third of country...
    https://www.stripes.com/news/middle-...ronts-1.560780


    The commitment is small, a few thousand troops who were first sent to Syria three years ago to help the Syrian Kurds fight the Islamic State. President Donald Trump indicated in March that the troops would be brought home once the battle is won, and the latest military push to eject the group from its final pocket of territory recently got underway.

    In September, however, the administration switched course, saying the troops will stay in Syria pending an overall settlement to the Syrian war and with a new mission: to act as a bulwark against Iran's expanding influence.

    That decision puts U.S. troops in overall control, perhaps indefinitely, of an area comprising nearly a third of Syria, a vast expanse of mostly desert terrain roughly the size of Louisiana.

    The Pentagon does not say how many troops are there. Officially, they number 503, but earlier this year an official let slip that the true number may be closer to 4,000. Most are Special Operations forces, and their footprint is light. Their vehicles and convoys rumble by from time to time along the empty desert roads, but it is rare to see U.S. soldiers in towns and cities.




    Belarus

    Russia can have 2 bases in Belarus for free - Lukashenko
    Interfax


    Saint Petersburg


    https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status...26447066083328

    UPDATE: Train with Russian military BTR’s and BMP infantry fighting vehicles sighted moving south at Saint Petersburg today, December 14th.
    Possibly part of the 138th Motorized Rifle Brigade. Unknown destination...

    UPDATE: Looks like another batch of T-90s bound for Iraq


    https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status...83721797984256


    Tu-160 Strategic Bombers Return From Venezuela




    Qatar says Gulf alliance needs replacing in blow to American plans for Arab Nato.
    https://news.yahoo.com/qatar-says-gu...102443531.html
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-15-2018 at 11:25 AM.

  13. #101
    So now Putin has 'weaponized' humor too.
    No shiit, don't laugh. STOP IT!!!! (BBC says so.)

    BBC
    How Putin's Russia turned humour into a weapon
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46567364





    https://twitter.com/PascalHeyman/sta...59904887291904
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-16-2018 at 07:15 AM.

  14. #102
    weekend watch

    previously banned and scrubbed off ytube.... now back (for awhile)



    ackshully... it was deleted/banned and described as 'Iranian propaganda' two years ago...
    Today you find it on Google under main suggestions searching "saudi arabia documentary"




    --------


    SouthFront
    LIVE STREAMED about 18 hrs ago.... starts @ 8:00





    those who follow... I think you will enjoy this.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-16-2018 at 07:30 AM.

  15. #103

  16. #104
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    USA destabilising Turkey with CIA?
    US Pastor Andrew Brunson is a CIA agent, said Turkey's Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu.

    https://twitter.com/Ozkok_/status/1074597177958301696

    (eeyup.)

    Moon of Alabama
    MoA: The 'Integrity Initiative' - A Military Intelligence Operation, Disguised As Charity, To Create The "Russian Threat"
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/1...-donnelly.html






    'Editors out for blood': BBC on the hunt for Moscow link to YellowVest protests
    https://www.rt.com/news/446604-russia-bbc-yellow-vests/




    Interfax

    ►LAVROV: WE ARE CATEGORICALLY AGAINST INCREASING NUMBER OF INF TREATY SIGNATORIES
    ►Europe to suffer first if weapons deployed in space - Russian diplomat
    ►Russian aerospace companies continuing cooperation with France despite political issues – Roscosmos
    ►S-400 systems to be deployed in Leningrad region on Dec 20



    https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/s...42205935988746




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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    ►LAVROV: WE ARE CATEGORICALLY AGAINST INCREASING NUMBER OF INF TREATY SIGNATORIES
    Why?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Why?
    well... Lavrov's answer is more of a pre-emptive response to the LARGER issues and reindeer games that hegemons want to play.
    It's basically saying NO to Bolton who thinks he's cleverly going to manipulate and outwit Russia in a game of 'chicken'.
    Because the US/UK predators have become technologically 'outgunned'
    and their naval and homeland missile defense 'shields' are now fully penetrable by their former prey.

    so
    the whole INF exit is a manipulative charade to try and 'scare' back the lost DOMINANCE by 'binding' their prey through agreements
    which they obviously now want to BROADEN to include the 'binding' of China (the 'missing' signatory).
    We already know the Death Walrus has NO intentions towards peace.... (it's a tarp. hahaha)
    so
    lavrov
    sez
    'no'.

    ---

    Knowing what we know about the Atlantic psychopaths and the last 50 years of their behavior (which has ONLY gotten worse)
    I think that the cold reality is:
    A militarily unshackled China...
    is more of a deterrent to western aggression and an 'assurance' of (temporary) Peace on Earth..
    ....than a shackled one.
    krazee times.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-17-2018 at 04:15 PM.

  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    well... Lavrov's answer is more of a pre-emptive response to the LARGER issues and reindeer games that hegemons want to play.
    It's basically saying NO to Bolton who thinks he's cleverly going to manipulate and outwit Russia in a game of 'chicken'.
    Because the US/UK predators have become technologically 'outgunned'
    and their naval and homeland missile defense 'shields' are now fully penetrable by their former prey.

    so
    the whole INF exit is a manipulative charade to try and 'scare' back the lost DOMINANCE by 'binding' their prey through agreements
    which they obviously now want to BROADEN to include the 'binding' of China (the 'missing' signatory).
    We already know the Death Walrus has NO intentions towards peace.... (it's a tarp. hahaha)
    so
    lavrov
    sez
    'no'.
    Then they can't really object to the US pulling out.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  21. #108
    What does it matter? The US wipes their asss with agreements and 'international' law.
    It used to be called Western 'civilization' for a reason.
    no more.

  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    What does it matter? The US wipes their asss with agreements and 'international' law.
    It used to be called Western 'civilization' for a reason.
    no more.
    It was always this bad under the facade.

    My point isn't to defend Bolton etc. but to point out that Russia is actually playing right into his hands, instead of looking like the adult in the room they look like they want to use their Chinese allies to go around the INF treaty and thus leave the US no choice but to leave it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  23. #110
    Russia is not 'using' China to go 'around' the restrictions on INTERMEDIATE missile deployments.
    remember
    it's simply an agreement about short range missiles. with nukes. that's all.
    A 2 party 2 nation agreement. Reagan/Gorbachev.

    The 'spirit' of the 1988 agreement was to prevent a 'hair trigger' nuclear exchange in Europe...
    Yunno... like lobbing a nuclear grenade over the fence w/ 15 seconds 'warning'.
    that's all it was designed to accomplish.

    It was never about China and still isn't.

    This has simply been birthed in Trump's 'Art of the Deal' brain...
    to 'trash' another 'agreement' to 're-negotiate' and gain advantage.
    Throw in the Death Walrus' scheming mind and that's where this came from.
    I see no adults... just psychopaths.

  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Russia is not 'using' China to go 'around' the restrictions on INTERMEDIATE missile deployments.
    remember
    it's simply an agreement about short range missiles. with nukes. that's all.
    A 2 party 2 nation agreement. Reagan/Gorbachev.

    The 'spirit' of the 1988 agreement was to prevent a 'hair trigger' nuclear exchange in Europe...
    Yunno... like lobbing a nuclear grenade over the fence w/ 15 seconds 'warning'.
    that's all it was designed to accomplish.

    It was never about China and still isn't.
    I understand, that is why I said "they look like".
    They should be demanding that all nuclear powers join and make any other demands that they would need as part of that.
    Then even if the US refuses they look like they are trying to prevent an arms race instead of being made to look like the bad guy.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  25. #112
    The smartest move on the board is sovereignty and trade and assisting others in the same.
    They are waiting for the old order to collapse under it's own weight.
    It's gonna happen and there's no need to let it push and shove anymore.
    Just ignore it. Talk with other people at the party.
    Soon it will be sitting on the couch all by itself.
    No need to even talk to it or even make 'agreements' with it.

    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-17-2018 at 06:16 PM.



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  27. #113
    West gunning for revolutions in post-Soviet states, says Lavrov
    http://tass.com/politics/1036427


    Ajit Singh
    UN calls for closure of US, French military bases in Pacific to further decolonization by vote of 124 to 8.
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/internatio...ses-in-pacific

    In West we hear so much about so-called Chinese 'aggression' off its own coast
    but nothing of the ongoing Western provocative militarism all over world

    Reuters
    U.S. backs NATO membership for Bosnia, dismisses Serb opposition
    https://reut.rs/2CjwsI2


    Al-Masdar News
    US does not rule out increasing military presence in Black Sea
    https://aml.ink/IHR6W



    US apologetic after calling Turkey terrorists
    OIR Spokesperson
    @OIRSpox

  28. #114
    Sharmine Narwani
    Bipartisan panel: US must prepare for “horrendous,” “devastating” war with Russia and China. The entire US establishment is certifiably insane.
    https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/17/...sia-and-china/



    Mil Spies
    Ten intelligence agencies ramp up efforts aimed at Russian military, says FSB
    http://tass.com/defense/1036525

    "military counterintelligence officers exposed dozens of intelligence agents (in) Russia’s Armed Forces
    from the US, Great Britain, Germany, Spain, Sweden, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Georgia and Poland [in the past five years - TASS],"
    Head of the Military Counterintelligence Department at the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) Colonel General Nikolai Yuryev said

    Everything you need to know about Jehovah’s Witnesses (in Russia)
    http://tass.com/world/939582

    In 2017, Russia’s Supreme Court declared Jehovah’s Witnesses to be an extremist organization and outlawed its activity throughout Russia, thereby upholding the Justice Ministry’s requests.

    Kremlin: Situation with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires additional analysis
    http://tass.com/politics/1036566

    Particular cases related to the Jehovah’s Witnesses religious organization outlawed in Russia will be studied in detail, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Tuesday.

    Peskov commented on complaints about persecution against the organization’s members, which human rights activists voiced to Russian President Vladimir Putin at the December 11 meeting of the Presidential Council for Civil Society and Human Rights. The Russian president noted that Jehovah’s Witnesses are also Christians and he did not understand why they were persecuted.


    good luck Dmitry.





    Interfax

    PUTIN ON U.S. WITHDRAWAL FROM INF TREATY: U.S. MAKING HYPOTHETICAL, GROUNDLESS ACCUSATIONS AGAINST RUSSIA, MOSCOW IS NOT VIOLATING TREATY

    IF U.S. LEAVES INF TREATY, RUSSIA WON'T FIND IT HARD TO MODERNIZE AIR- AND SEA-LAUNCHED SYSTEMS AND DEPLOY THEM ON LAND - PUTIN

    ONE MORE AIR DEFENSE DIVISION TO BE DEPLOYED IN ARCTIC REGION - SHOIGU

    SHOIGU: NUMERICAL STRENGTH OF RUSSIA'S GROUP OF FORCES IN SYRIA IS COMPARABLE TO SIMILAR GROUPS IN KYRGYZSTAN, ARMENIA AND TAJIKISTAN, IT IS ENOUGH TO FULFILL SET TASKS

    Russia has 6 military bases abroad - Defense Ministry



    Supported by 129 nations. Fifty-four abstained and two - the United States and Ukraine - voted against
    UN GA passes Russia-initiated resolution on combating glorification of Nazism
    http://tass.com/world/1036495

    The 66-provision document expresses "deep concern about the glorification, in any form, of the Nazi movement, neo-Nazism and former members of the Waffen SS organization,
    including by erecting monuments and memorials and holding public demonstrations in the name of the glorification of the Nazi past, the Nazi movement and neo-Nazism."


    Putin: US pullout from INF Treaty may ruin entire arms control system
    http://tass.com/defense/1036579






    Interfax

    ADVANCED WEAPONS SERIOUSLY BOOST POTENTIAL OF ARMY AND FLEET, ENSURING RUSSIA'S SECURITY FOR DECADES TO COME - PUTIN

    Russia’s new weaponry will make those who use aggressive rhetoric think - Putin








    The Associated Press
    BREAKING: President Trump issues order creating new space command to better advance the military's vast operations in space.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status...49828881784833


    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-18-2018 at 03:28 PM.

  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    The smartest move on the board is sovereignty and trade and assisting others in the same.
    They are waiting for the old order to collapse under it's own weight.
    It's gonna happen and there's no need to let it push and shove anymore.
    Just ignore it. Talk with other people at the party.
    Soon it will be sitting on the couch all by itself.
    No need to even talk to it or even make 'agreements' with it.

    Hopefully it does just that before it starts something that no one can finish.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    well... Lavrov's answer is more of a pre-emptive response to the LARGER issues and reindeer games that hegemons want to play.
    It's basically saying NO to Bolton who thinks he's cleverly going to manipulate and outwit Russia in a game of 'chicken'.
    Because the US/UK predators have become technologically 'outgunned'
    and their naval and homeland missile defense 'shields' are now fully penetrable by their former prey.

    so
    the whole INF exit is a manipulative charade to try and 'scare' back the lost DOMINANCE by 'binding' their prey through agreements
    which they obviously now want to BROADEN to include the 'binding' of China (the 'missing' signatory).
    We already know the Death Walrus has NO intentions towards peace.... (it's a tarp. hahaha)
    so
    lavrov
    sez
    'no'.

    ---

    Knowing what we know about the Atlantic psychopaths and the last 50 years of their behavior (which has ONLY gotten worse)
    I think that the cold reality is:
    A militarily unshackled China...
    is more of a deterrent to western aggression and an 'assurance' of (temporary) Peace on Earth..
    ....than a shackled one.
    krazee times.
    President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that there was nothing to stop Russia and the United States holding talks with other countries about the possibility of them joining a landmark arms control treaty that is at risk of unraveling.

    Both sides have noted that other countries remain free to develop weapons banned under the treaty, and the United States has in particular raised concerns about China with U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton warning Moscow that Chinese missiles have the capability to strike the Russian heartland.
    "Yes, it is true, there are certain problems with this agreement (the treaty) - other countries that possess intermediate and short range missiles are not part of it," Putin told top military officials at a Defence Ministry meeting.
    "What is stopping (us) from starting talks on them joining the current agreement or starting to discuss parameters for a new accord?" he asked.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/russias-putin...-business.html


    I completely disagree with you about China, they will make the US empire look truly philanthropic if they become dominant and they are more of a threat to Russia than to us.

    Putin seems to agree with me even if Lavrov doesn't.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  31. #117
    Putin On Whether He Wants To Rule The World: We All Know Very Well Who Seeks To Rule The World


  32. #118

  33. #119
    PUTIN: MAIN PRIORITY IN GOVT'S WORK DURING NEXT FIVE YEARS IS IMPLEMENTING NATIONAL PROJECTS
    PUTIN: FIRST REGIMENT SET OF AVANGARD HYPERSONIC SYSTEM TO BE SUPPLIED TO STRATEGIC MISSILE FORCES, RUSSIA ACQUIRES NEW STRATEGIC WEAPON
    Interfax

    Putin: The avant-garde test has been successful.
    The first regiment will be deployed next year.
    This is a great event in the life of the country.
    Russia has a new kind of strategic weapon.


    https://twitter.com/USGOVIgnorance/s...94861863469058

  34. #120
    German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas warned this week that the US better not be thinking about stationing its intermediate-range missiles in Germany - or anywhere in Europe, for that matter. For the last 30 years, the treaty has prohibited stationing intermediate-range arms in Europe. Any push to change that would almost certainly be met with "widespread resistance" in Germany, Maas said, so as to avoid a scenario where Europe is put in the middle of a tug-of-war between Russia and the US.
    Quoted by the RT, in an interview with German news agency DPA, Maas said that "the deployment of new medium-range missiles would meet with widespread resistance in Germany."
    The US is set to quit the 30-year-old INF treaty with Russia, which has been preventing Washington from stationing such missiles in Europe. Both countries accuse each other of violating the treaty, and both deny any wrongdoing on their own part.
    "By no means should Europe become the scene of a debate on weapons build-up," Maas said.
    Deploying nuclear weapons in response to supposed treaty violations is Cold War-era logic, the German diplomat believes.
    "Nuclear armament is certainly the wrong answer," he said. "The policy of the 80s does not help to answer the questions of today."



    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...rope-after-inf
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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