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    Rand Paul Seeks Vote to Block U.S.-Saudi Arms Sales Over Missing Journalist

    Time for a round of golf. #ibelievematttehcollinssux

    Senator Rand Paul increased U.S. congressional pressure on Saudi Arabia by saying he’d seek to block future arms sales to the country after reports that a journalist was murdered inside the kingdom’s consulate in Istanbul for criticizing the royal family.

    Paul, a Kentucky Republican, said Tuesday he would force a vote to reject sales the next time the U.S. government informs lawmakers of a planned shipment, a response to the disappearance of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who was last seen entering the consulate.

    In June, Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey, the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, notified the Trump administration he would use an informal procedure to block sales to Saudi Arabia because of his concern about the Saudi-led coalition fighting in Yemen. That remains in place, according to a Democratic aide.

    "Believe you me, I will be forcing votes on them," Paul said in an interview on Louisville radio station WHAS. "It is a point of difference with the president, but who knows, the president may come around on this if there is any evidence they killed this journalist."

    President Donald Trump, whose administration has sought to cultivate close ties with Saudi Arabia, said Monday he is concerned about the disappearance.

    A Turkish official, speaking anonymously and without providing evidence, said Khashoggi was murdered inside the consulate, a claim the Saudi government has vehemently denied.

    Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman told Bloomberg News in an interview last week that Khashoggi, a contributor to the Washington Post, had left the consulate shortly after entering it last week and that he was ready to let Turkey search the building.

    In 2017, Paul narrowly failed to block $110 billion in sales to Saudi Arabia over its involvement in Yemen’s civil war. The resolution failed on a 47-53 vote, with Republicans Mike Lee of Utah, Todd Young of Indiana, and Dean Heller of Nevada joining Paul in voting against the sales.

    Paul’s effort may gain more support this time. On Monday, Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker, a Republican from Tennessee, said he’d raised the issue with the Saudi ambassador. South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham tweeted, “If there was any truth to the allegations of wrongdoing by the Saudi government it would be devastating to the US-Saudi relationship and there will be a heavy price to be paid -- economically and otherwise.”
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ashoggi-s-fate



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    While in principle it's the right thing to do, this could become a slippery slope if our senators started calling for ending US military sales to every foreign regime that abuses human rights. Can you imagine the economic harm that could do to well paying jobs in weapons/bombs making states industries that put food on the table for many of our childrens?






    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9LWhsd3QI

    Israel detains American student for her alleged boycott support





    US Officially Sends Largest Ever $38 Billion Military Aid Package to Israel

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    While in principle it's the right thing to do, this could become a slippery slope if our senators started calling for ending US military sales to every foreign regime that abuses human rights. Can you imagine the economic harm that could do to well paying jobs in weapons/bombs making states industries that put food on the table for many of our childrens?






    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9LWhsd3QI

    Israel detains American student for her alleged boycott support





    US Officially Sends Largest Ever $38 Billion Military Aid Package to Israel
    Let the slope slipping commence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Let the slope slipping commence.
    Ok.. I guess on second thought.
    I've been arm twisted into agreeing with you on this.

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    https://www.apnews.com/7c8d85ea776a4...-target-writer

    ISTANBUL (AP) — Turkish media close to the president published images Wednesday of what it described as a 15-member “assassination squad” allegedly sent to target Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, and of a black van later traveling from the Saudi consulate, where he went missing, to the consul’s home.


    more at link...

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    While in principle it's the right thing to do, this could become a slippery slope if our senators started calling for ending US military sales to every foreign regime that abuses human rights. Can you imagine the economic harm that could do to well paying jobs in weapons/bombs making states industries that put food on the table for many of our childrens?






    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9LWhsd3QI

    Israel detains American student for her alleged boycott support





    US Officially Sends Largest Ever $38 Billion Military Aid Package to Israel
    Plus by killing their children it gives our children more food. And if you've ever noticed the American yutes, food is something they don't get enough of.
    go small or go home
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    Good luck Rand.

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    Apparently Khashoggi was no simple “reporter”...

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    https://www.apnews.com/7c8d85ea776a4...-target-writer

    ISTANBUL (AP) — Turkish media close to the president published images Wednesday of what it described as a 15-member “assassination squad” allegedly sent to target Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, and of a black van later traveling from the Saudi consulate, where he went missing, to the consul’s home.


    more at link...
    Something does not smell right about the media coverage of this story, let's wait till all the facts come out. Probably just coincidence that this story broke soon after Trump attacked Saudis over oil prices. Today's stock market fall probably also unrelated to this.

    On a side note, reporting on this "hitmen squad" reminded of very similar reporting few years back about murder in Dubia hotel by 20 plus member "hitmen squad" of our second closest ally behind Saudis.
    Great allies we have.


    Six of the 12 British passports used by the hit team

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    Trump Unwilling to Let Saudi Journalist’s Fate Risk Huge Arms Deal

    A top priority for President Trump as with many recent presidents, is the selling of massive amounts of US arms internationally.That’s meant his promises to get to the bottom of the disappearance of journalist Jamal Khashoggi have clear limitations.

    In comments today, after insisting how determined he is to tackle this matter at the “highest levels,” Trump is walking back the issue, insisting that it isn’t worth it for the US to imperil $110 billion in arms sales to Saudi Arabia over a single journalist.

    Trump says it wouldn’t be acceptable to lose the $110 billion deal, adding that the journalist’s disappearance took place in Turkey, and he’s not a United States citizen. ...

    The arms deal is simply too important to politically well-connected US arms companies, and any serious attempt to punish the Saudis for the likely killing of Khashoggi is going to boil down to a fight over the arms deal

    ...............

    Certainly, if Trump and Washington have no problem with the Saudis killing plenty of their own citizens or journalists at home, or generating, funding and arming terrorists, or pushing Wahabist extremism, or attacking its neighbor and starving and bombing its people, or totalitarian atrocities and laws over its own citizens, or being a dictatorship, or scores of other reason,
    then Trump and Washington certainly won't stop arming the Wahhabist dictatorship because they murdered Kashoggi.
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