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    Incrementalism: Enemy of Freedom

    Excellent video by Larken Rose.


    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

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    @8:05 - Run away! Is he for real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    @8:05 - Run away! Is he for real?
    Running away is for cowards. Real men stay and vote for their rights
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    Ok, I watched the video, but there's a mistake I think he's making. You can do both at once.

    In my personal life, I follow the Harry Browne method of I do what I want regardless of what some law tells me to do. I avoid coming into collision with the State whenever possible. In my personal life, I am in no way an incrementalist.

    However, that doesn't preclude me from supporting incremental restrictions on government. I support any restriction on the use of government, regardless of how much, as long as it's incremental in the right direction. You can't starve the beast by your own accord - all you can do is stop being the one to feed it. That's what we all should do. But at the same time, there is nothing stopping us from using their mechanisms to limit their reach.

    The bigger problem is that most people want the government to have power - they just want the power to be used to their advantage. Which is why both parties grow government.
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    Always enjoy reading Larken's posts on FB. Good stuff.

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    Larkin Rose is just wrong on this. Again, we have someone comparing two things that are not similar. Slavery did not come about through incrementalism and for that reason, it can be abolished as fast as it was established which is in a flash. Govt on the other hand can and I believe should be gradually abolished if only to give people who are accustomed to it the chance to adjust.

    Just my 2 cents
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    Dunno what country Larken Rose is chained up in, but its a very american-centric viewpoint.

    Slavery dissolved slowly in England over 1000 years. From the Magna Carta, through feudal and corvee systems, through vagabond labour, bit by bit England became more and more democratic. It just seemed rapid in the US where it was common place for millennia and then suddenly ended by treaty.

    It is quite possible to imagine an ancap-corporation on its own land that allows you to live within its borders for a portion of your income, whose directors are elected by all paid up shareholders, and whose directors can change the portion of income that counts as rent. All of which would be voluntary. So his objections are based in the genesis of the system not the actions or the structure of the system.

    Like a Marxist saying all Capital was originally gained immorally hundreds of years ago, so no system can possibly be fair now.
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