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    Turkish security forces surround Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul

    Journalist Jamal Khashoggi (critic of Clown Prince/Yemen) goes
    'missing' after visiting Saudi consulate in Istanbul

    his fiance' went with him and was waiting outside the consulate.
    His fiancee Hatice Cengiz (left) and her friend wait outside Saudi Arabia's consulate to find out what happened to Mr Khashoggi


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ing-in-turkey/
    Turkish security forces surround Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul after anti-regime journalist goes 'missing' while visiting the building
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-Turkey.html

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-45731341
    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/10/03/...bsence-in.html
    https://news.vice.com/amp/en_us/arti...ashoggi-turkey
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...175153049.html
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/w...-istanbul.html



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    Turkey Summons Saudi Envoy Over Disappearance of Commentator Khashoggi - Reports
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...voy-summoning/

    The journalist has not been seen for over 48 hours since Tuesday when he reportedly entered the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.
    A spokesman for Turkey's president has said that the journalist remained inside the building,
    while Saudi officials insisted that he had left the diplomatic facility.
    (sure.)

    Dissident Saudi Arabian journalist Jamal Khashoggi who gained a reputation for his fierce criticism of the Crown Prince’s regime.


    more
    https://www.rt.com/news/440437-turke...ia-journalist/
    Last edited by goldenequity; 10-05-2018 at 01:45 PM.

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    Saudi Crown Prince to Allow Turkey to Search Consulate for Missing Journalist
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...alist-missing/

    "We have nothing to hide."

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Saudi Crown Prince to Allow Turkey to Search Consulate for Missing Journalist
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...alist-missing/

    "We have nothing to hide."
    They have smuggled him out or destroyed the body by now.
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    Turkish prosecutors launch probe into disappearance of Saudi journalist – reports
    https://sptnkne.ws/jG92


    Saudi journalist missing in Turkey flew to Riyadh: report
    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/...lman-Khashoggi

    Lebanese media say Saudi dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi who is suspected to have disappeared in Turkey’s Istanbul has been flown to Riyadh.
    Lebanon’s Al Akhbar newspaper cited an Arab source as saying Saudi Arabia had informed Turkey that Khashoggi was currently in the Saudi capital Riyadh.
    The journalist was recently reported to have disappeared in Turkey’s Istanbul after entering the Saudi Consulate.
    However, the Arab source that spoke to Al Akhbar said Khashoggi had been taken out of another entrance to the consulate in a white vehicle in coordination with a Turkish security official.
    He was then transferred to the airport before being flown to the kingdom, the newspaper added.

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    Ragıp Soylu
    @ragipsoylu
    BREAKING — INITIAL ASSESSMENT OF TURKISH POLICE IS THAT SAUDI JOURNALIST KHASHOGGI WAS KILLED AT SAUDI CONSULATE IN ISTANBUL - TWO TURKISH SOURCES
    Source: Reuters

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    Reuters: Preliminary conclusions of Turkish security are that Jamal Khashoggi was killed inside the consulate of Saudi Arabia
    https://mideast.liveuamap.com/en/201...rkish-security


    Brasco_Aad
    Turkish Source: Jamal Khashoggi has been murdered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul by the Saudi regime
    Brasco_Aad
    Smuggled out of Turkey by Blackwater Mercenaries with the help of the US consulate in Istanbul.

    ***("Just seen it from Brasco. He already shared info connecting Prince's Black Water/Xe/Armi or whatever they call themselves now and the incident yesterday.
    The guy has really some interesting insider informations.")

    =======

    Joyce Karam
    BREAKING: #Turkey Police assessed that #Saudi prominent journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed at Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. (REUTERS)
    Riyadh has said since Tuesday that he left its Consulate and doesn’t know his whereabouts.

    Developing...

    Joyce Karam
    Reuters says killing was premeditated and Khashoggi body was moved out of Consulate.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 10-06-2018 at 03:30 PM.

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    Salman Shaikh @salman_Shaikh1
    The Trump Administration is now faced with a real crisis.
    It now has to lead firmly and clearly in its relations with KSA.
    It has a responsibility to do so if it wants to maintain stability in the Gulf region.

    I am glad the whole story of Prince Salman being a democratic reformer has fallen apart with this and the massacres in Yemen.
    I hope Turkey has the balls to close down both the Saudi and American embassies like they did with the Israeli one.
    This gonna be great diplomatic bruhehe. If Trump backed Saudistanis murdered journalist in their embassy in Ankara, with help of Trump's shadow adviser's mercenaries...wow. That's real mafia and they must be deal as criminals.



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    Link to Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1MG0TI

    Turkish authorities believe that prominent Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who disappeared four days ago after entering Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Istanbul, was killed inside the consulate, two Turkish sources said on Saturday.
    “The initial assessment of the Turkish police is that Mr. Khashoggi has been killed at the consulate of Saudi Arabia in Istanbul. We believe that the murder was premeditated and the body was subsequently moved out of the consulate,” one Turkish official told Reuters.

    The sources did not say how they believed the killing was carried out. Saudi Arabia’s consul-general told Reuters on Saturday his country was helping search for Khashoggi, and dismissed talk of his possible abduction.

    Khashoggi, who has lived in self-imposed exile in Washington for the past year fearing retribution for his critical views on Saudi policies, entered the consulate on Tuesday to secure documentation for his forthcoming marriage, according to his fiancee, who waited outside. He has not been heard of since.
    He is / was a pretty prolific blogger at WaPo. Here comes war.

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    The big questions are what Turkey can prove and what they are willing to do without proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The big questions are what Turkey can prove and what they are willing to do without proof.
    yes...
    in this case I decided to 'post it all' and see where it 'swarms'.

    I have more 'confidence' in the 'core truth' of this horrific act.... aka he was murdered...
    than I ever had in the Skripal fiction.
    so I'll post it 'all' and everybody keep their salt shaker handy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    yes...
    in this case I decided to 'post it all' and see where it 'swarms'.

    I have more 'confidence' in the 'core truth' of this horrific act.... aka he was murdered...
    than I ever had in the Skripal fiction.
    so I'll post it 'all' and everybody keep their salt shaker handy.
    I am relatively sure the Saudis murdered him, I just think that unless Turkey is willing to raid their embassy it can't be proven and maybe not even then.

    If Turkey wants to they can simply blame the Saudis and throw their ambassador out of the country but I don't know if they will.
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    Turkish police, after initiating their search of the Saudi diplomatic compound on Saturday, unexpectedly reached the following shocking conclusion, according toThe Washington Post:
    Turkey has concluded that Jamal Khashoggi, a prominent journalist from Saudi Arabia, was killed in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul earlier this week by a Saudi team sent “specifically for the murder,” two people with knowledge of the probe said Saturday.
    Likely this will set off a major diplomatic scandal between Ankara and Riyadh as no doubt the Saudis expected a clean bill of health, otherwise they would have never made such an offer to search the heavily guarded and fortified compound in the first place.
    If this is true - that the Saudis lured a U.S. resident into their consulate and murdered him - it should represent a fundamental break in our relationship with Saudi Arabia. https://t.co/hgCchEZRtJ
    — Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) October 6, 2018
    During his Friday interview with Bloomberg crown prince MBS was said to be "exuding confidence" by some observers; however, if confirmed the whole incident could threaten the future of US-Saudi relations.
    Early in the day Saturday Turkey's Anadolu news agency announced the Istanbul public prosecutor's office was formally probing the disappearance, and though yet to reveal any specific evidence to back the murder charge, concluded that a 15-member team “came from Saudi Arabia. It was a preplanned murder,” according to sources privy to the investigation cited in The Washington Post.


    The Post noted further of its own disappeared and allegedly murdered columnist:
    Khashoggi, who writes for The Washington Post’s Global Opinions section, visited the consulate Tuesday to obtain documents related to his upcoming wedding, according to his fiancee and friends.
    The killing, if confirmed, would mark a stunning escalation of Saudi Arabia’s effort to silence dissent. Under direction from the crown prince, Saudi authorities have carried out hundreds of arrests under the banner of national security, rounding up clerics, business executives and even women’s rights advocates.
    Starting in 2016 Arabic media began reporting that Khashoggi had been banned by the Saudi state fromwriting in newspapers, appearing on TV and attending conferences, after a series of criticisms leveled at Donald Trump at a sensitive time when Riyadh was set to embark on a new and close relationship with the incoming US president.
    Since then, the prominent journalist who had previously served as editor for the popular Arab Times and Al-Watan, increasingly became persona non grata for authorities in the kingdom.
    Saudi leadership likely considered his criticisms, which have increased over the past year related to such issues as the arrests of women activists, as especially dangerous due to his speaking from within the Saudi establishment and having been an adviser to a former Saudi intelligence chief.
    * * *

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...side-consulate

    One more "good" spook. (That is not an endorsement of those who killed him)
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    picture of Jeff Bezos and Mohammad Bin Salman laughing together back in March didn't age well,
    considering MBS just murdered one of Bezos' columnists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    picture of Jeff Bezos and Mohammad Bin Salman laughing together back in March didn't age well,
    considering MBS just murdered one of Bezos' columnists.

    MBS probably had this planned and was laughing AT Bozo instead of WITH him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Khashoggi will not be missed.

    One more good spook, many happy returns.
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    Pompeo calls on Saudi government to investigate Khashoggi disappearance
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1MJ066



    Third party may be involved in Khashoggi disappearance - Erdogan adviser
    https://aml.ink/HauPv

    Bueller?

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    Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan on Monday called on Riyadh to prove its claim that Saudi Arabian journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who has been missing since last week, left the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, while the Washington called on Saudi Arabia to support an investigation into his disappearance.

    More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1MI0X5
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Journalist Jamal Khashoggi (critic of Clown Prince/Yemen) goes
    'missing' after visiting Saudi consulate in Istanbul
    Could the whole story be just another cover-up to hide the many scandals that involve Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6664052
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Could the whole story be just another cover-up to hide the many scandals that involve Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6664052
    There is probably a connection but I don't see how this would cover up anything.
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    Saudi Arabia has agreed to let Turkish police search its consulate in Istanbul, Turkey said Tuesday, as a photograph emerged showing Jamal Khashoggi shortly before his disappearance.

    The Washington Post, where Mr Khashoggi wrote opinion articles, published a still CCTV image of the journalist going into the public entrance of the consulate. It is the last known picture of him.
    The image, apparently taken from a camera on a Turkish police guard post outside the consulate, is time stamped at 1.14pm on October 2, 2018.
    Turkish officials have said that if Mr Khashoggi ever left the consulate he would have come out the same door and his exit would have been captured on the same camera.


    Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish president, challenged Saudi Arabia to prove its claim that Mr Khashoggi ever left the consulate. "If he left, you have to prove it with footage,” he said.
    Hatice Cengiz, Mr Khashoggi’s Turkish fiancee, was waiting outside the consulate gates and realised something had gone wrong when the consulate shut at 3.30pm and he still had not emerged.
    Ms Cengiz said she was “not giving up hope” that Mr Khashoggi was still alive, despite the grisly reports in the Turkish media.
    “I hope we will soon learn what happened to him, and I still have hope that he is alive. But I need to know, where is Jamal? I have to know what has happened to him,” she told The Washington Post.
    Ms Cengiz said she was frustrated at how little information she had received from Turkish authorities but said ultimately it is “the responsibility of Saudi Arabia to explain and prove how Jamal exited and from where and when”.
    Donald Trump, the US president, said he was “concerned” by the case amid widespread media attention in the US.


    The US State Department later called on Saudi Arabia “to support a thorough investigation of Mr. Khashoggi's disappearance and to be transparent about the results of that investigation”.
    Turkish investigators are focused on two private Gulfstream jets which landed in Istanbul on the day Mr Khashoggi disappeared, according to several pro-government Turkish newspapers.
    One jet, carrying nine people, allegedly landed in the early hours of October 2. Its passengers checked into two hotels near the consulate and booked rooms until October 5. However, all nine apparently checked out the same day and returned to the airport, where they flew on to the UAE.
    The second jet, carrying six people, reportedly landed later in the day. Its passengers went straight to the consulate and then left in the evening for Egypt. Both flights allegedly later returned to Riyadh.
    Investigators reportedly believe that Mr Khashoggi’s body might have been smuggled out of the consulate in diplomatic vans and then carried onto one of the planes.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-ara...123156141.html
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt has met with the Saudi ambassador to seek "urgent answers" over missing journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
    Prominent reporter Mr Khashoggi went missing after visiting the Saudi consulate in Istanbul last week, sparking claims he had been killed inside the building.
    Mr Hunt said that if reports of Mr Khashoggi's death proved correct, the UK would treat the situation "seriously", adding: "Friendships depend on shared values."
    After he met ambassador Prince Mohammed bin Nawaf Al Saud, Mr Hunt tweeted: "Just met the Saudi ambassador to seek urgent answers over Jamal Khashoggi. Violence against journalists worldwide is going up and is a grave threat to freedom of expression.
    Just met the Saudi ambassador to seek urgent answers over Jamal Khashoggi. Violence against journalists worldwide is going up & is a grave threat to freedom of expression. If media reports prove correct, we will treat the incident seriously - friendships depend on shared values.
    — Jeremy Hunt (@Jeremy_Hunt) October 9, 2018
    "If media reports prove correct, we will treat the incident seriously - friendships depend on shared values."
    The meeting came a day after Downing Street said the UK was "working urgently" to establish the facts behind Mr Khashoggi's disappearance.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/jamal-kha...135100987.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Investigators reportedly believe that Mr Khashoggi’s body might have been smuggled out of the consulate in diplomatic vans and then carried onto one of the planes.
    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-ara...123156141.html
    The other theory is that Khashoggi left the Saudi Consulate via the garbage disposal.
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
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    Turkey Believes Prominent Saudi Critic Was Killed in Saudi Consulate in Istanbul


    Turkish investigators believe a well-known Saudi dissident was killed inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul …
    Jamal Khashoggi, entered the consulate on Tuesday to obtain a document he needed to get married and never emerged …

    Waiting for him inside the consulate … were Saudi agents who had recently arrived in Turkey with the intent to silence Mr. Khashoggi. …

    Mr. Khashoggi, 59, had worked as an adviser to senior government officials …

    Despite orchestrating the kidnapping of the Lebanese prime minister, waging a brutal war in Yemen and locking up hundreds of prominent Saudis in a luxury hotel on accusations of corruption, the prince MBS has won Western supporters, including the government of the United …

    a brazen violation of international norms and a grave escalation of what critics have called reckless and ruthless efforts by the prince to consolidate power and stamp out dissent at home and abroad.

    The Turkish conclusion that Mr. Khashoggi had been killed was described by three people with knowledge of the investigation. Two were Turkish, and one was a senior official from an Arab government. All three spoke on condition of anonymity …

    The conclusion was also reported by Asli Aydintasbas, a senior fellow with the European Council on Foreign Relations in Turkey, who was briefed on the findings by a senior Turkish official. “I am afraid government officials now believe he is dead,” Ms. Aydintasbas said. …
    Turan Kislakci, the head of Turkish Arab Media Association and a friend of Mr. Khashoggi’s, told The Times that Turkish officials had called him and confirmed the death. “They confirmed two things: He was killed and his body was dismembered,” Mr. Kislakci said.

    The Arab government official also described Mr. Khashoggi’s body as having been dismembered.

    Earlier on Saturday, Turkey’s semiofficial Anadolu news agency reported that 15 Saudi citizens, including Saudi diplomats, had arrived in Istanbul on two separate planes and were at the consulate around the same time as Mr. Khashoggi on Tuesday. They later left Turkey for the countries they came from, Anadolu reported. The people with knowledge of the investigation believe these were the agents sent to deal with Mr. Khashoggi. …
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