Kavanaugh is the swamp

[dcliberty]

Kavanaugh is the swamp

https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/opi...80741a25d.html

[dannno]

LOL, ya, and Dianne Feinstein is "the rebellion"

[dcliberty]

Defending the government just gets tougher everyday.

https://truth-zone.net/forum/public-zone.html

[r3volution 3.0]

A nice review of the policy problems with Kavanaugh (not as thrilling as sex, drugs, and farting, of course, but of some import):

https://fee.org/articles/the-constit...supreme-court/

After two days of political theater, the Senate Judiciary Committee agreed to delay the vote to confirm Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court for a week. In that time, the FBI will conduct an investigation surrounding the allegations made against him by Christine Blasey Ford.
And the real losers, unfortunately, are the American people, who are being diligently distracted from Kavanaugh’s actual policy record.

By now, no one is a stranger to the claims of sexual assault that have been levied against Judge Kavanaugh. In fact, the entire country has been so wrapped up in this case, it is hard to determine what is fact and what is simply partisan politics rearing its ugly head. And between Cory Booker’s lengthy monologue that sounded more like a campaign stump speech than anything else and Lindsey Graham’s unexpected passionate rant, it is clear that both sides are putting way too much stake on the outcome of these hearings. And the real losers, unfortunately, are the American people, who are being diligently distracted from Kavanaugh’s actual policy record.

To be sure, claims of sexual misconduct should certainly be brought to the public’s attention, especially when they involve a nominee for a position as powerful as a Supreme Court Justice. And in the #metoo era, failing to take these allegations seriously would be most unwise. But losing ourselves in this political circus and the subsequent media frenzy surrounding Kavanaugh’s sexual past glosses over another aspect of his professional career that should concern every single individual: his promotion of the national security state.

It goes on to discuss Kavanaugh's connections with the PATRIOT Act, torture, the enemy combatant designation, and warrantless spying.

[Brian4Liberty]

A nice review of the policy problems with Kavanaugh (not as thrilling as sex, drugs, and farting, of course, but of some import):

https://fee.org/articles/the-constit...supreme-court/

It goes on to discuss Kavanaugh's connections with the PATRIOT Act, torture, the enemy combatant designation, and warrantless spying.

And the real losers, unfortunately, are the American people, who are being diligently distracted from Kavanaugh’s actual policy record.

And in this reality TV drama that they are now engaged in, who is playing the role of “opposition” yet still ignoring his record and not honestly opposing Kavanaugh?

[r3volution 3.0]

From the cited article, two of the more important issues:

Re the PATRIOT Act

One of the most egregious acts perpetrated against the American people at this time was the PATRIOT Act. And one of its greatest supporters was Brett Kavanaugh.

According to the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), which filed a Freedom of Information Act Request for Kavanaugh’s official government correspondence records from this era, the Supreme Court Justice nominee referred to the PATRIOT Act as a "measured, careful, responsible, and constitutional approach” in an email sent to a colleague. Anyone who knows anything about the PATRIOT Act knows that “constitutional” and “careful” are by no means accurate descriptions. The PATRIOT Act obliterated the Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights to privacy and due process by giving the federal government sweeping new powers to conduct surveillance on the American people.

Re warrantless surveillance

in a ruling in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, Kavanaugh ruled that “the Government’s metadata collection program is entirely consistent with the Fourth Amendment.” He also later stated that “that critical national security need outweighs the impact on privacy occasioned by this program.” Again, a rather odd conclusion for a staunch “constitutionalist” to support.

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And in this reality TV drama that they are now engaged in, who is playing the role of “opposition” yet still ignoring his record and not honestly opposing Kavanaugh?

It's obvious that neither party is interested in protecting civil liberties.

This, like most political fights, has nothing to do with those (or any) principles.

[Brian4Liberty]

It's obvious that neither party is interested in protecting civil liberties.

This, like most political fights, has nothing to do with those (or any) principles.

If Hillary had appointed Kavanaugh, at least we would have sustained principled opposition from Rand and probably Mike Lee.

And the Senate would approve him 98-2...

[Ender]

And in this reality TV drama that they are now engaged in, who is playing the role of “opposition” yet still ignoring his record and not honestly opposing Kavanaugh?

The whole purpose of this fruhaha is to get everyone fighting & forgetting about such minor things as the Patriot Act or the 4th Amendment.

[r3volution 3.0]

If Hillary had appointed Kavanaugh, at least we would have sustained principled opposition from Rand and probably Mike Lee.

And the Senate would approve him 98-2...

Yup, disappointed in Rand on this.

[Brian4Liberty]

The whole purpose of this fruhaha is to get everyone fighting & forgetting about such minor things as the Patriot Act or the 4th Amendment.

I’d say that the left seriously wants to protect the welfare state from a Judge that might rule against them, as Roberts should have done with Obamacare. Both sides want to protect the surveillance state, with Republicans (the right) more interested in using it against foreigners, and the Democrats (left) more interested in using it domestically against political opposition.

Some Democrats have principled opposition to the warfare state, but it’s about as small as the true liberty/Constitution supporters in the GOP. In other words, not enough significant true opposition to the warfare state.

[Brian4Liberty]

Yup, disappointed in Rand on this.

He has little choice on the actual vote. He expressed his true opposition right at the start, but if he wants to continue to influence Trump, he can’t (and shouldn’t) join the Flakes. All downside, no upside.

[r3volution 3.0]

He has little choice on the actual vote. He expressed his true opposition right at the start, but if he wants to continue to influence Trump, he can’t (and shouldn’t) join the Flakes. All downside, no upside.

He has no significant influence over Trump to begin with.

[Jamesiv1]

This thread is of displeasure to the MAGA. Please dispose of it.

[Swordsmyth]

He has no significant influence over Trump to begin with.

[r3volution 3.0]

Feel free to give an example

[Swordsmyth]

Feel free to give an example

They have been given to you before.

[r3volution 3.0]

They have been given to you before.

Oh

[timosman]

Oh

Stop wasting space.

[RJ Liberty]

The whole purpose of this fruhaha is to get everyone fighting & forgetting about such minor things as the Patriot Act or the 4th Amendment.

I suspect that is the case. By focusing on a rape that may or may not have happened in 1982, the kangaroo court can distract the public from pesky little issues like Kavanaugh's record as a long-time Bush/Cheney crony and one of the main architects of the so-called "Patriot" Act.

They've been so successful, in fact, that even long-time RPF members are openly defending this piece of $#@!.

[timosman]

They've been so successful, in fact, that even long-time RPF members are openly defending this piece of $#@!.

Your strategic advice will not be needed for a while. Why don't you go back to your room and play with your toys?

[RJ Liberty]

[Swordsmyth]

I suspect that is the case. By focusing on a rape that may or may not have happened in 1982, the kangaroo court can distract the public from pesky little issues like Kavanaugh's record as a long-time Bush/Cheney crony and one of the main architects of the so-called "Patriot" Act.

They've been so successful, in fact, that even long-time RPF members are openly defending this piece of $#@!.

How is it that you can't understand that it is possible to defend him against the false rape charges without defending him about everything else?

[timosman]

[RJ Liberty]

How is it that you can't understand that it is possible to defend him against the false rape charges without defending him about everything else?

I think you pick your battles, and in this instance, I think a portion of RPF has picked the wrong battle, obscuring what really matters.

I asked the other day: if it were Dick Cheney being accused of rape, would you defend him? The answer I got is yes, because he didn't rape anyone. But Cheney's actions, with the false pretense Iraq War, did cause the rape of thousands of women in Iraq, including Abeer. Iraq is unquestionably worse off than when Saddam Hussein controlled it, as are Libya and other "liberated", "regime changed" countries, where mob rule is the only rule of law. The masterminds of the "War on Terror" must pay.

"But Kavanaugh didn't rape anyone!" you'll say. But it's wasted protest. No one outside of RPF will even see the defense, and most of the SJW crowd isn't reading RPF.

"But if we let this happen, it will set a precedent, and the Left's attacks will continue!" you'll say. But even if you defend Kavanaugh from rape charges on RPF, the Left's attacks will continue. It's not a precedent, it's a way of life for SJWs. Defending him on RPF is wasted effort on scum who rightly belong behind bars.

There are 100,000 classified documents on Kavanaugh's tenure in the MIC. These documents are protected by "constitutional privilege", according to the DOJ. Which just means they would be a PR nightmare for the DOJ and the Executive Branch if they were released to the public. OP is right: Kavanaugh is the swamp.

"But if he isn't confirmed, we could get someone worse!" Worse than a member of Bush and Cheney's terrorist org? Hardly.

Amy Coney Barrett would be the ideal choice for SCOTUS; even though the Left would attack her, no-one's going to accuse her of rape, and she's a constitutionalist who (as far as I know) never got involved in NeoCon Bush/Cheney $#@!.

[Swordsmyth]

I think you pick your battles, and in this instance, I think a portion of RPF has picked the wrong battle, obscuring what really matters.

I asked the other day: if it were Dick Cheney being accused of rape, would you defend him? The answer I got is yes, because he didn't rape anyone. But Cheney's actions, with the false pretense Iraq War, did cause the rape of thousands of women in Iraq, including Abeer. Iraq is unquestionably worse off than when Saddam Hussein controlled it, as are Libya and other "liberated", "regime changed" countries, where mob rule is the only rule of law. The masterminds of the "War on Terror" must pay.

"But Kavanaugh didn't rape anyone!" you'll say. But it's wasted protest. No one outside of RPF will even see the defense, and most of the SJW crowd isn't reading RPF.

"But if we let this happen, it will set a precedent, and the Left's attacks will continue!" you'll say. But even if you defend Kavanaugh from rape charges on RPF, the Left's attacks will continue. It's not a precedent, it's a way of life for SJWs. Defending him on RPF is wasted effort on scum who rightly belong behind bars.

There are 100,000 classified documents on Kavanaugh's tenure in the MIC. These documents are protected by "constitutional privilege", according to the DOJ. Which just means they would be a PR nightmare for the DOJ and the Executive Branch if they were released to the public. OP is right: Kavanaugh is the swamp.

"But if he isn't confirmed, we could get someone worse!" Worse than a member of Bush and Cheney's terrorist org? Hardly.

Amy Coney Barrett would be the ideal choice; even though the Left would attack her, no-one's going to accuse her of rape, and she's a constitutionalist who (as far as I know) never got involved in NeoCon Bush/Cheney $#@!.

There are many much worse judges than Kavanaugh and just how do you expect to get Trump to withdraw his nomination and give us Lee or Barrett by posting here?

[timosman]

There are many much worse judges than Kavanaugh and just how do you expect to get Trump to withdraw his nomination and give us Lee or Barrett by posting here?

[Swordsmyth]

[RJ Liberty]

There are many much worse judges than Kavanaugh and just how do you expect to get Trump to withdraw his nomination and give us Lee or Barrett by posting here?

"Many worse judges" than the guy who stripped away the 4th Amendment?

And I don't expect to get Trump to withdraw his nomination by posting here. I hope to get at least one RPF member to stop posting silly defenses of someone who has no defense, and who rightly belongs behind bars for his collusion against the American people.

[Swordsmyth]

"Many worse judges" than the guy who stripped away the 4th Amendment?

Yes, there are many judges that would shred the entire Constitution and every amendment.

And I don't expect to get Trump to withdraw his nomination by posting here. I hope to get at least one RPF member to stop posting silly defenses of someone who has no defense, and who rightly belongs behind bars for his collusion against the American people.

He has defenses against these charges and the only way you will get me to stop is by proving he is guilty.

[RJ Liberty]

Yes, there are many judges that would shred the entire Constitution and every amendment.

Do you think Trump would nominate one of them?