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    Michael Avenatti pranked by 4Chan over Kavanaugh?

    The other day, Avenatti was talking about how he had access to new allegations regarding Brett Kavanaugh and friend Mark Judge. He claimed to have broken a code in his yearbook and that he had a prospective client who claimed to have been gang-raped (or something similar) by Kavanaugh and friends. Then today he put his twitter on private. Now one 4Chan $#@!poster is claiming he pranked him with false information:



    It's impossible to know what's true, but Avenatti going radio silent after pushing the most ridiculous narratives (like "FFFFourth of July" meant "French them, Finger Them, $#@! hem, Forget them") is interesting. At the every least, it seems like the alleged victim isn't going to be coming forward.
    Last edited by ThePaleoLibertarian; 09-25-2018 at 04:50 PM.
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    I am a bit confused..

    Avenatti is denying any of it happened, but the way this article reads it sounds like his full of $#@!..


    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...anaugh-accuser

    Avenatti came forward over the weekend with what he called "credible information" about allegations against Kavanaugh, who has been publicly accused of sexual misconduct by two women.Avenatti told The Hill on Monday that he expected his client to go public with her allegations against Kavanaugh.

    Avenatti told the chief counsel for nominations for the Senate Judiciary Committee on Sunday that he is "aware of significant evidence of multiple house parties in the Washington, D.C., area during the early 1980s, during which Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and others would participate in the targeting of women with alcohol/drugs to allow a ‘train’ of men to subsequently gang rape them."

    Avenatti also stated that he had "multiple witnesses that will corroborate the facts," each of whom would testify publicly.


    So does he still have these witnesses coming forward?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I am a bit confused..

    Avenatti is denying any of it happened, but the way this article reads it sounds like his full of $#@!..


    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...anaugh-accuser



    So does he still have these witnesses coming forward?
    lol, I like how the author of that article mistook the meaning of "train" in the 4chan post.

    4chan post, "Brett kavanaugh and his buddy Mark Judge ran a train on her."

    thehill author," telling him that she had attended high school with Kavanaugh and had evidence that he trained other high school boys to gang rape girls at parties. "

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    LOL
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    How long before Avenattti's accusers come forward? Sooner or later he will be on the other end of the courtroom. A couple accusers naming him as an assailant would take the wind out of his sail.

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    I ca't find it right now but someone on Twitter posted a screenshot from 4chan, with a title like "HOw To Punk A Creepy Porn Lawyer" or something.

    Last edited by angelatc; 09-26-2018 at 04:06 AM.

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    I bet Gloria Allred is pissed. Avenatti's encroaching on her territory.

    How awesome would it be if Gloria was behind this 4Chan stuff!
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...inst-kavanaugh

    excerpts:
    Judiciary Committee reviewing Avenatti claim against Kavanaugh

    The Senate Judiciary Committee is reviewing allegations that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh was present at a “gang rape” in the early 1980s.
    ----
    Avenatti on Wednesday released the identity of his client who is accusing Kavanaugh of being present for a “gang rape” where she was a victim.
    Avenatti, who also represents adult film star Stormy Daniels in her lawsuits against President Trump, tweeted out a sworn testimony from Julie Swetnick in which she declares she met Kavanaugh in “approximately 1980-1981” and attended several house parties for which Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge were also present.

    “I also witnessed efforts by Mark Judge, Brett Kavanaugh and others to cause girls to become inebriated and disoriented so they could then be ‘gang raped’ in a side room or bedroom by a ‘train’ of numerous boys ... These boys included Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh ... In approximately 1982, I became the victim of one of these ‘gang’ or ‘train’ rapes where Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh were present,” Swetnick said.
    Interesting how the 4chan post using the word train got posted before this got released...



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    False alarm, it seems. Avenatti does indeed have a new accuser:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...new-delay.html
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    Michael Avenatti shoots down rumor that client accusing Kavanaugh was an internet hoax

    WASHINGTON – Before releasing a signed statement from his client, Julie Swetnick, in which she alleged witnessing Supreme Court nominee engage in "abusive behavior" toward girls when he was in high school, attorney Michael Avenatti confronted an online rumor that the alleged third Kavanaugh accuser was not real and that he was the victim of a hoax.

    "This is completely false," Avenatti said Tuesday on Twitter in reference to the claim that he had been duped. "It never happened; it is a total fabrication. None of it is true. The right must be very worried. They should be."

    The attorney made his Twitter account private for about 24 hours because, he said, "the bots and Trump trolls are out in force." He was account was made public again Wednesday morning.

    On Monday, Avenatti, who represents porn actress Stormy Daniels in her case against President Donald Trump, announced he represents a woman who is a former employee of both the State Department and the U.S. Mint with information about how Kavanaugh and his high school classmate Mark Judge "behaved at countless house parties." But he did not make her identity public until Wednesday,

    More: Brett Kavanaugh's 1982 calendar being used as evidence against sexual assault allegations

    The rumor that Swetnick did not really exist and was a hoax began with a post by a user on the nefarious troll den known as 4Chan. The user claimed that the alleged accuser was invented by someone who had his girlfriend call Avenatii on a "burner phone." The claim gained steam on social media.

    Avenatti dismissed it as "crazy."

    "This is just crazy that somebody can just tweet something out like this, or post it, and people just take it as truth," he told Politico. "It’s crazy."

    Swetnick alleges that she witnessed Kavanaugh and his classmate Mark Judge try to get teenage girls "inebriated and disoriented so they could then be 'gang raped."

    The revelation of Avenatti's client comes as Kavanaugh faces sexual assault allegations from two other women, Christine Blasey Ford and Deborah Ramirez. Kavanaugh and Ford are set to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday.

    More: Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford offers Senate four people who corroborate her assault claims

    Per Politico, Avenatti said he had made the determination that his client was "100 percent credible well before Sunday night."

    "We’ve received over 3,000 inquiries in the last six months from people with all kinds of crazy stories and fabrications," he said. "I’ve heard it all. I’ve seen it all. Like we don’t vet clients. Give me a break."

    He said the client was real and that he still expects her to come forward.

    Avenatti said Monday that his client would come forward within 48 hours.

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    False alarm, it seems. Avenatti does indeed have a new accuser:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...new-delay.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    What if they dug up one in a hurry when they realized they had been hoaxed?
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    Michael Avenatti shoots down rumor that client accusing Kavanaugh was an internet hoax
    . It must be a hoax. A lawyer, especially a creepy porn lawyer, would never lie.
    ...

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    . It must be a hoax. A lawyer, especially a creepy porn lawyer, would never lie.
    I'm not buying his dismissal. Seriously what are the chances that a 4chan poster would post up about a hoax of a "train"/gang rape the day before the creepy porn lawyer claims the same story? If it isn't a 4chan hoax, then whomever posted that on 4chan had inside knowledge of some type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I'm not buying his dismissal. Seriously what are the chances that a 4chan poster would post up about a hoax of a "train"/gang rape the day before the creepy porn lawyer claims the same story? If it isn't a 4chan hoax, then whomever posted that on 4chan had inside knowledge of some type.
    I trust 4chan over the CPL
    ...

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I'm not buying his dismissal. Seriously what are the chances that a 4chan poster would post up about a hoax of a "train"/gang rape the day before the creepy porn lawyer claims the same story? If it isn't a 4chan hoax, then whomever posted that on 4chan had inside knowledge of some type.
    When was the date of the 4Chan post? The date on the post image in the OP is dated the 25th while Avanatti announced his client on the 23rd.





    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-26-2018 at 07:41 PM.

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    When was the date of the 4Chan post? The date on the post image in the OP is dated the 25th while Avanatti announced his client on the 23rd.
    The 4chan post, was announcing that they had already hoaxed him and ended it over the course of days. So the date he announced his client is not relevant.
    He announced the client, but not the details and never mentioned a "train" until today. The 4chan posted mentioned these details in the 4chan post yesterday at 10:54am its in the OP post of this thread.



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    4Chan is famous for fake news.

    https://www.greenwichtime.com/entert...d-13260783.php

    But for the record, here is how, at least, a rumor spread from the bottom dredges of the internet to the peak of the news cycle.

    -10:05 a.m. Tuesday

    Two days after announcing that he represented "a woman with credible information regarding Judge Kavanaugh" and began teasing sensational details of her allegations on Twitter, Avenatti abruptly set his Twitter account to private late Tuesday morning, Eastern time, explaining that "I was just forced to make my account private because the bots and Trump trolls are out in full force due to my representation re Kavanaugh. I will change this back as soon as I am able."

    Many people had been skeptical of the famously self-promotional lawyer's claims about his client - in large part because Avenatti had not yet named her, even though he promised that she would soon become the third woman this month to go public with sexual allegations against Kavanaugh. Even some Democrats were suspicious, the Daily Beast reported.

    But on 4chan's uncensored /pol/ forum - a haven for far-right trolls - the attitude toward Avenatti was less suspicious than downright paranoid.

    -10:54 a.m.

    The 4chan site, if you're not familiar with it, is essentially the bathroom wall of the internet. It's an anonymous message board where anyone can claim to be anyone, or write anything about anyone. Many want their message to be widely read - to go viral. A small fraction of them are insightful. Most are gross and weird.

    By the forum's standards, there was nothing particularly remarkable about what a user identified only as "d6yucTxx" wrote an hour after Kavanaugh locked his Twitter account. It was just another post full of obscenities, typos, exclamation points and outlandish claims.


    The crux of d6yucTxx's story was that some days earlier, he and his "stripper GF" had called "Avanatti" on their "Burner Cell" phones as a prank to pass the time.

    The girlfriend supposedly convinced "Avanatti" that she had gone to the same school as Christine Blasey Ford - who accused Kavanaugh of sexual assault earlier this month, derailing the Supreme Court nominee's confirmation hearing - and that she had a similar story to share. d6yucTxx wrote that he had pretended to be "a Classmate of Judge Kavaugh" who confirmed the bogus story, and that together he and his girlfriend had tricked "Avanatti" into offering $75,000 if she would tell the story on CNN.

    The pair eventually tired of the prank and destroyed their burner phones, d6yucTxx wrote, which explained why "Avanatti" had just locked his Twitter account after days of hype that he had found a new accuser.

    It should be noted that not even 4chan readers believed this at first.

    "You've been watching too much Breaking Bad," wrote one of the first people to reply. "Recording or it didn't happen," wrote another.

    Not everyone would be so discerning.

    -10:55 a.m. to 3:42 p.m.

    Like scribblings on the proverbial toilet stall, most posts on 4chan are doomed to obscurity. They pop up on the forum's front page, get buried under newer posts seconds later, and usually disappear to the bottom of the pile before more than a handful of people see them.

    d6yucTxx's post was headed for the same trash bin - except someone took a screenshot and shared it on Twitter, where the claim mated with speculative threads obsessing over who Avenatti's mystery accuser could be. And lo, a viral hoax was born.

    The post trended upward through increasingly popular Twitter accounts, mostly on the far right, reaching Fox News contributor Stephen Miller and blogger Erick Erickson in the early afternoon. Those tweets, in turn, became the bases for blog posts on conservative sites such as RedState and Townhall, which in turn were noticed by reporters.

    Inundated with questions, Avenatti explicitly denied the rumor on Twitter shortly before 4 p.m.:

    "There is a rumor being floated that I was 'duped' or 'pranked' by a 4Chan user re Kavanaugh. I have received multiple inquiries about it. This is completely false. It never happened; it is a total fabrication. None of it is true. The right must be very worried. They should be."

    This, of course, only made the situation exponentially worse.

    -4 p.m. to Fox News @ Night

    In case Avenatti's blanket statement was not a sufficient denial of a ludicrous theory, CNN's Jake Tapper reported 20 minutes later that he had spoken to the attorney, who was sticking by his claim that his client was a real person:

    "Asked @MichaelAvenatti about the rumor his new client is a hoax," Tapper tweeted at 4:05 p.m. " 'It never happened. None of it. No truth to it. This is a fabrication of the right because they are worried and they should be.' "

    "Michael Avenatti on Tuesday lashed out at reports that a client who was preparing to level allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh was a fake and part of a ruse by an outside group targeting Avenatti," Politico reported in the early evening, and solicited yet another comment from the lawyer: "Like we don't vet clients. Give me a break."

    No break was given. It was CBS News's turn next to quote Avenatti. "There's nothing wrong!" he told the outlet. "I had to go online to look, and I read this post, and I'm laughing. None of that happened. It's a complete fabrication. There's zero truth to it. When I say zero truth, I mean zero truth. Not a single thing in that is true."

    Before the clock had finished with the day, Fox News' chief national correspondent Ed Henry reported on the controversy during his nightly roundup. Henry managed to mix up the timeline, misreporting that Avenatti had locked his Twitter account after the 4chan post went up - "though he insists that was because of online threats from Trump supporters, and says it's completely false that he was duped."

    That may have marked peak 4chan in the United States, but it wasn't the end of the rumor's life cycle. It appeared in Canadian headlines in the small hours of Wednesday morning. Come daybreak, Brian Kilmeade incorrectly told the viewers of Fox & Friends that "Avenatti says he might have been duped, he might have been punked," before correcting himself a few minutes later.

    -Wednesday to the end of time

    "The manipulators have found ways to hijack the norms of journalism," hoax expert Phillips said Wednesday morning, recounting the spectacle.

    She recently wrote a paper about how reporters unintentionally spread fake news even when they try to debunk it, as many had Tuesday. She thinks trolls such as d6yucTxx - for all their poorly written prose and ridiculous claims - probably know this, and count on it. And as hoaxes and conspiracy theories increasingly show up not just in the news but sometimes in the White House, she thinks the trolls are winning.

    "There are coordinated efforts to sow ridiculous narratives on 4chan, basically for the reporters to show up holding a microphone," Phillips said. "Even if you're leading with the denial, it still puts the story out into the atmosphere . . . It delegitimizes everything around it. Whoever the survivor is, there's going to be a shadow cast on them from now."

    At 10:42 a.m. Wednesday, Avenatti released the name of his client: Julie Swetnick, who said she was present during a "gang rape" at a party in the early 1980s at which Kavanaugh was present. Kavanaugh denied the allegation, as he has the other accusations.

    d6yucTxx's stripper-scam story has since disappeared from the news cycle, now being obviously impossible. But back on 4chan, they're already digging through Swetnick's online history, trying hard to start the next one.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-26-2018 at 08:01 PM.

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    The 4chan post, was announcing that they had already hoaxed him and ended it over the course of days. So the date he announced his client is not relevant.
    He announced the client, but not the details and never mentioned a "train" until today. The 4chan posted mentioned these details in the 4chan post yesterday at 10:54am its in the OP post of this thread.
    I have a feeling they DID prank him, he knew he was $#@!ed (then locked his Twitter account, an act which still needs some explanation on his part). He scrambled to find an alternative "client" and this is the best he could muster on 24 hours' notice, hence the date of the declaration. If she was already his client before then waiting until the 25th to compose the declaration doesn't make much sense, that's the sort of thing you would do before going public not after. So now he's stuck with a "client" who he himself didn't really have time to check out and is a total nutcase.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You suck at debunking $#@!.

    Avenatti told the chief counsel for nominations for the Senate Judiciary Committee on Sunday that he is "aware of significant evidence of multiple house parties in the Washington, D.C., area during the early 1980s, during which Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and others would participate in the targeting of women with alcohol/drugs to allow a ‘train’ of men to subsequently gang rape them."
    Also, it's not "impossible" like your article states. Just because they come up with somebody the next day doesn't mean it wasn't true.. on the other hand anybody who has been watching Better Call Saul lately, Jimmy is selling and breaking burner phones a lot in the last few episodes.

    But either way, trolling the mainstream media is good stuff.
    Last edited by dannno; 09-26-2018 at 08:11 PM.
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