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    Thumbs up Trump blasts 'ridiculous' US spending bill, revives shutdown threat

    President Donald Trump on Thursday boosted the chances of a US government shutdown when he savaged a "ridiculous" spending bill that lawmakers from both parties had hoped would avert a standoff."I want to know, where is the money for Border Security and the WALL in this ridiculous Spending Bill, and where will it come from after the Midterms?" Trump tweeted.
    The president's remarks upended what congressional leaders thought would be a smooth process for approving a massive spending package before the current fiscal year ends on September 30, and in advance of November's midterm elections.
    The bill, which easily passed the Senate 97-3 on Tuesday and heads to the House of Representatives, includes $674.4 billion in fiscal year 2019 defense funding, about $20 billion more than 2018, and funds other government departments including education, labor and health.
    But other departments, including homeland security, would be funded on autopilot through December 7, postponing debate over funding a US-Mexico border wall as Republicans were eager to avoid a nasty fight over a top Trump priority until after the election.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-bla...155445055.html
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    Let's be really clear...

    Trump thinks it's ridiculous not because it spends obscene amounts of money, but because it doesn't spend enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    President Donald Trump on Thursday boosted the chances of a US government shutdown when he savaged a "ridiculous" spending bill that lawmakers from both parties had hoped would avert a standoff."I want to know, where is the money for Border Security and the WALL in this ridiculous Spending Bill, and where will it come from after the Midterms?" Trump tweeted.
    The president's remarks upended what congressional leaders thought would be a smooth process for approving a massive spending package before the current fiscal year ends on September 30, and in advance of November's midterm elections.
    The bill, which easily passed the Senate 97-3 on Tuesday and heads to the House of Representatives, includes $674.4 billion in fiscal year 2019 defense funding, about $20 billion more than 2018, and funds other government departments including education, labor and health.
    But other departments, including homeland security, would be funded on autopilot through December 7, postponing debate over funding a US-Mexico border wall as Republicans were eager to avoid a nasty fight over a top Trump priority until after the election.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-bla...155445055.html

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    Didn't Trump say he wouldn't sign any more of these outrageous spending bills? Probably all talk for the base, as usual. Must have talked to Rand before he made the statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Let's be really clear...

    Trump thinks it's ridiculous not because it spends obscene amounts of money, but because it doesn't spend enough.
    Or perhaps because it spends too much and yet it doesn't even spend enough on the important things like border security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Or perhaps because it spends too much and yet it doesn't even spend enough on the important things like border security.
    Where in his statement did he express concern about it spending too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Where in his statement did he express concern about it spending too much?
    That is implicit in him calling it ridiculous, he has spoken in opposition to excessive spending before but he has previously signed excessive spending bills in order to fund things he believed were important, this bill is ridiculous and it doesn't even fund the wall or any kind of increased border security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is implicit in him calling it ridiculous
    He criticized it for not including wall spending and then called it ridiculous.

    The only reasonable interpretation is that he was calling it ridiculous because it didn't include wall spending.

    There is nothing in the statement, or his previous behavior, to suggest that he's suddenly concerned about overspending.

    Get real man. He's a big spending leftist who also happens to be for immigration restrictions.

    You know it, I know it.

    he has spoken in opposition to excessive spending
    Shortly before signing the last gigantic spending bill, as I recall.

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    The bill, which easily passed the Senate 97-3 on Tuesday and heads to the House of Representatives, includes $674.4 billion in fiscal year 2019 defense funding, about $20 billion more than 2018, and funds other government departments including education, labor and health.
    But other departments, including homeland security, would be funded on autopilot through December 7, postponing debate over funding a US-Mexico border wall as Republicans were eager to avoid a nasty fight over a top Trump priority until after the election.
    So the budget is $20 billion more than it was last year, and it needs to be even bigger, so we can build more walls?!

    So much for small-budget sanity from the Republicans! :/



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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Where in his statement did he express concern about it spending too much?
    Trump fan fiction. Just make $#@! up.

    Did they shoehorn Israel's new $38 billion handout into this bill or was that quietly taken up under a different bill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Trump fan fiction. Just make $#@! up.

    Did they shoehorn Israel's new $38 billion handout into this bill or was that quietly taken up under a different bill?
    Apparently they snuck it through, already passed Congress in a standalone bill:

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/florida-...926-story.html

    [Sept. 13, 2018] A bipartisan bill that would cement U.S. military aid to Israel into law has passed a major hurdle.The U.S. House of Representative approved the measure, known as the Ileana Ros-Lehtinen U.S.-Israel Security Assistance Authorization Act of 2018, several weeks after it passed the Senate. It will now head for the president’s desk.

    Under the proposed legislation, the $38 billion in military aid over 10 years spelled out under the 2016 Memorandum of Understanding would be funded through a special mechanism that would be separate from the annual budget.

    The bill’s official name was changed to honor Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.), as the outspokenly pro-Israel congresswoman is not running for re-election this fall.

    “[She] has been a stalwart friend of Israel throughout her time in Congress, and it is a fitting honor that this bill to strengthen the U.S.-Israel relationship bears her name,” said Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.). “Israel is under constant threat from every direction. A threat to Israel, our strategic ally in a turbulent region, is also a threat to our national security.”

    The bill would give Israel increased access to sophisticated U.S. technology to ensure it maintains its qualitative edge in the region through the U.S. war-reserve stockpile in Israel, which Israeli forces can use under certain conditions.

    It also authorizes the president to bolster the stockpile with $1 billion worth of weaponry, as well as with precision-guided munitions to use against the Hezbollah terror group based in Lebanon. The bill further allows the president to establish a collaborative U.S.-Israel counter-drone program.

    The law ensures that U.S. aid would not be cut as long as the memorandum comes into effect starting in 2019, ensuring that the funds would not be influenced by the budget wars between Congress and the White House. It also means that presidents would not be able to suspend U.S. aid as a means of pressuring Israel.
    Now the only question is whether Trump will sign it into law...



    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 09-20-2018 at 09:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is implicit in him calling it ridiculous, he has spoken in opposition to excessive spending before but he has previously signed excessive spending bills in order to fund things he believed were important, this bill is ridiculous and it doesn't even fund the wall or any kind of increased border security.
    And yet, guess what...

    You're got cucked again.

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    No matter... besides, Mexico's paying for the wall, right?

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    And yet, guess what...

    You're got cucked again.

    Trump is not my ideal president but this bill only lasts past the midterms, we will see what happens with the next one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump is not my ideal president but this bill only lasts past the midterms, we will see what happens with the next one.
    What will be the excuse then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What will be the excuse then?
    Hillary would have been worse. Last resort excuse for all cucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Hillary would have been worse. Last resort excuse for all cucks.
    It's an impressively durable excuse.

    E.G. Trump bombed 100,000 people, so....

    ...Hillary would have bombed 101,000!



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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is implicit in him calling it ridiculous, he has spoken in opposition to excessive spending before but he has previously signed excessive spending bills in order to fund things he believed were important, this bill is ridiculous and it doesn't even fund the wall or any kind of increased border security.
    And yet, guess what...

    You're got cucked again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Trump 3D chess, he is spending the country into oblivion in order to destroy the liberals. Amiright @anti_globalist?



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