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    Senate approves $854B spending bill

    The Senate is racing to avoid the third government shutdown of the year ahead of a looming end-of-the-month deadline.

    Senators
    on Tuesday voted 93-7 to pass a sweeping $854 billion spending bill that includes funding for the Departments of Defense, Health and Human Services, Labor and Education, which make up the lion's share of total government spending.

    Six Republicans, Jeff Flake (Ariz.), Mike Lee(Utah), Rand Paul (Ky.), David Perdue (Ga.), Ben Sasse (Neb.) and Pat Toomey (Pa.), joined Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in voting against the bill, which also includes a short-term stopgap bill to fund the rest of the government through Dec. 7 and prevent a shutdown that would start Oct. 1.
    No wall.

    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/4...-spending-bill
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    Why did bernie oppose it , not high enough for him ?
    Do something Danke

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    Yuuuge MAGA! The best.
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    More "moving the ball in the right direction," right?
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Why did bernie oppose it , not high enough for him ?
    That, ^^^right there^^^, is funny. I don't care who you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Just as well.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ego/992770002/

    Trump's border wall prototypes fail design requirements and are riddled with deficiencies

    A congressional watchdog group revealed new details about the testing and the costs associated with building prototypes of President Donald Trump's wall and the challenges with erecting them along the border with Mexico.

    The eight prototypes remain standing on the slopes of a hilly area on the outskirts of San Diego, nearly seven months after U.S. Customs and Border Protection finished a series of military-grade field tests on the 30-foot-tall structures.

    Although CBP has no plans to tear them down soon, don't expect those designs to be replicated and built on a larger scale along the border, based on construction and design deficiencies identified in the agency’s own tests and evaluations.

    Until now, the federal agency in charge of border security has kept details about the results under wraps, deemed as law-enforcement sensitive. But earlier this month, the U.S. Government Accountability Office published a report describing testing and evaluation methods used, as well as a summary of some of the findings.
    For constructability, the six companies were required to build structures between 18 and 30 feet in height, as well as 6 feet below ground. During the test, engineers also looked at “how feasible it would be to construct the prototypes in other environments, based on their observations during the construction of the prototypes,” according to the GAO report.

    The evaluations found that all four concrete prototypes had “extensive” construction challenges, the most serious of the four categories, meaning they would need the most work to meet CBP’s requirements. Of the four prototypes made of alternate materials, two had “substantial” challenges, the next category down, and the other two had “moderate” challenges. None presented “minimal” challenges, the fourth category requiring the least amount of work.

    The report’s summary of the results said the sloping terrain presented a special challenge for the constructability of the prototypes.

    “This assessment included factors such as whether the foundation would accommodate slope changes, distance from the border required during construction, weight of the construction materials, and the equipment — such as cranes or concrete trucks — needed during construction of the prototypes,” the report concluded.

    For engineering design, CBP required the prototypes to be cost-effective to build, maintain and repair, and that they accommodate several operational and design elements.

    Most significantly, the agency required that the structures be able to be built in slopes of up to 45 percent. But the testing and evaluation found that only half of them met that standard, and would still require some work to accomplish that. Another three were deemed to “be impractical for slopes over 15 percent,” nearly a third of what was specified. Notably, the evaluation found that the eighth structure “could not be constructed on any slope without a redesign.”

    Engineers from CBP and USACE found that six of the eight prototypes needed “extensive” or “substantial” work to “accommodate surface drainage,” one of those required elements, given the propensity for flood waters and rain to flow across both sides of the border. The other two structures needed only “minimal” changes, according to the report.

    CBP asked that the prototypes accommodate gates that Border Patrol uses along certain sections to access the other side of the structure, especially in areas where the barriers are built north of the actual borderline. The evaluation found that six of the prototypes needed “extensive” or “substantial” work to meet that requirement, while the other two needed “moderate” changes.

    “What that tells me is that the government doesn’t know what they want yet,” Patrick Malyszek said. He’s the president of M3 Federal Contract Practice Group, a New York-based firm that provides consulting services to private contractors interested in bidding on federal government projects.
    More at link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    But but but all the Trumpsplaining websites and forums said that wall funding was guaranteed to be in the bill! And Trump won't sign it if it's not! Did they lie to me???
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    But but but all the Trumpsplaining websites and forums said that wall funding was guaranteed to be in the bill! And Trump won't sign it if it's not! Did they lie to me???
    Maybe it's all a test
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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