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    Russian plane disappears from radars during Israeli attack on Syria’s Latakia– MoD (search on)

    Israel/France may have fuuckedup BIG time...


    Russian plane disappears from radars during Israeli attack on Syria’s Latakia – MoD
    https://www.rt.com/news/438673-russi...ppears-radars/



    Last edited by goldenequity; 09-17-2018 at 05:22 PM.



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    Brasco_Aad
    RUSSIA: A RUSSIAN AIR FORCE IL-20 WENT OFF THE RADAR AND MOST PROBABLY CRASHED DURING TONIGHT'S ATTACK


    Sputnik
    BREAKING: Russian aircraft went off radar near Khmeymim Airbase in #Syria – Russian Defence Military
    https://sptnkne.ws/j8wD

    Brasco_Aad
    RUSSIA: FRANCE LAUNCHED MISSILES INTO SYRIA

    Russia Registered Rocket Launches From French Frigate in Mediterranean on Monday
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...ssilelaunches/


    Brasco_Aad
    A FRENCH FRIGATE LAUNCHED SEVERAL MISSILES AT LATAKIA

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    A Russian military Il-20 aircraft with 14 service members on board went off the radars during an attack by four Israeli jets on Syria’s Latakia province, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    Air traffic controllers at the Khmeimim Air Base “lost contact” with the aircraft on Wednesday evening, during the attack of Israeli F-16 fighters on Latakia, said the MOD.

    Russian radars also registered the launch of missiles from a French frigate in the Mediterranean on the evening of September 17.

    READ MORE: Russia detects missile launches from French frigate off Syria’s coast in Mediterranean – MoD

    Fourteen people were on board the plane at the time of the disappearance. A search and rescue mission is underway.

    An hour-long attack on Latakia began around 10 pm local time, and targeted a power station as well as two facilities belonging to the Syrian military. Syrian officials said the attack was “foreign” and came “from the sea,” but could not initially confirm rumors that Israel was behind it.

    The attack on Latakia came just hours after Russia and Turkey negotiated a partial demilitarization of the Idlib province, which is the last remaining stronghold of anti-government militants, including the Al-Qaeda affiliate Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (also known as the Jabhat Al-Nusra).

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    France hasn't been right since Napoleon invaded Russia, they should know better than to take on Russia again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Air traffic controllers at the Khmeimim Air Base “lost contact” with the aircraft on Wednesday evening, during the attack of Israeli F-16 fighters on Latakia, said the MOD.
    Bibi/Lieberman scroooded the pooch.

    France was obviously complicit in the 'event' off the coast tonite...
    Last edited by goldenequity; 09-17-2018 at 05:30 PM.

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    jeez...this is gonna be like MH-17 2.0 'blame game'....
    Pentagon sez it was a 'friendly fire' incident.



    Pentagon Says Russian Plane Shot Down By Syrian Defense Responding To Israeli Attack
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ly-active-huge


    In a breaking report CNN has cited Pentagon officials who say the missing Russian aircraft with 14 service members on board, now subject of a Russian search-and-rescue operation, was accidentally shot down by Syrian missile defense.

    Pentagon sources say further that Israel was responsible for the nighttime attack, which reportedly involved strikes by air and possibly by sea from the Mediterranean. Israel has yet to issue comment.

    But Russia says its radar picked up a French warship firing in the area just before the Russian patrol aircraft went down.

    ---------

    https://www.rt.com/news/438676-frenc...nean-missiles/

    “Airspace control has recorded rocket launches from the French frigate Auvergne,”

    The launch was detected around the same time as air traffic controllers at the Khmeimim Air Base “lost contact” with a military Il-20 aircraft during an attack of Israeli F-16 fighters on Latakia.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 09-17-2018 at 07:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Israel/France may have fuuckedup BIG time...
    Big Time.

    Idiotic Imbecile Israel can kiss goodbye Russia withholding the S-300s from Syria.
    Syria is getting hem now and possibly S-400 and more.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 09-17-2018 at 08:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Pentagon sez it was a 'friendly fire' incident.

    Pentagon Says Russian Plane Shot Down By Syrian Defense Responding To Israeli Attack
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ly-active-huge ...


    Pentagon sources say further that Israel was responsible for the nighttime attack, which reportedly involved strikes by air and possibly by sea from the Mediterranean. Israel has yet to issue comment.

    But Russia says its radar picked up a French warship firing in the area just before the Russian patrol aircraft went down.
    Friendly fire - yeah right. Syria and Russia have linked air defense systems. Nearly impossible.
    Even if it were friendly fire, Israel and France are still fully responsible as they launched the attack on Syria precipitating everything. They are fully accountable for the consequences of their evil acts.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 09-17-2018 at 08:37 PM.
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    This could be an IFUKUS (Israel-France-UK-US) tantrum attempt to escalate war just hours after Russia and Turkey just instituted a jointly enforced de-escalation zone in Idlib removing Washington’s latest proclaimed pretext for escalation in Syria. Washington and the rest of the IFUKUS Axis just got outplayed once again.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 09-17-2018 at 09:08 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Friendly fire - yeah right. Syria and Russia have linked air defense systems. Nearly impossible.
    Even if it were friendly fire, Israel and France are still fully responsible as they launched the attack on syira precipating everything. They are fully accountable for the consequences of their evil acts.

    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    jeez...this is gonna be like MH-17 2.0 'blame game'....
    Pentagon sez it was a 'friendly fire' incident.



    Pentagon Says Russian Plane Shot Down By Syrian Defense Responding To Israeli Attack
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ly-active-huge


    In a breaking report CNN has cited Pentagon officials who say the missing Russian aircraft with 14 service members on board, now subject of a Russian search-and-rescue operation, was accidentally shot down by Syrian missile defense.

    Pentagon sources say further that Israel was responsible for the nighttime attack, which reportedly involved strikes by air and possibly by sea from the Mediterranean. Israel has yet to issue comment.

    But Russia says its radar picked up a French warship firing in the area just before the Russian patrol aircraft went down.

    ---------

    https://www.rt.com/news/438676-frenc...nean-missiles/

    “Airspace control has recorded rocket launches from the French frigate Auvergne,”

    The launch was detected around the same time as air traffic controllers at the Khmeimim Air Base “lost contact” with a military Il-20 aircraft during an attack of Israeli F-16 fighters on Latakia.
    I bet the French targeted the plane on purpose and hoped that Israel would take the blame if the "friendly fire" excuse didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Friendly fire - yeah right. Syria and Russia have linked air defense systems. Nearly impossible.
    Even if it were friendly fire, Israel and France are still fully responsible as they launched the attack on syira precipating everything. They are fully accountable for the consequences of their evil acts.
    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

    They done poked the Bear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I bet the French targeted the plane on purpose and hoped that Israel would take the blame if the "friendly fire" excuse didn't work.
    Probably FUKUS wanted to test Russian response and decided to use Israel as a sacrificial lamb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Probably FUKUS wanted to test Russian response and decided to use Israel as a sacrificial lamb.
    And France was elected the fallback scapegoat.
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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Probably FUKUS wanted to test Russian response and decided to use Israel as a sacrificial lamb.
    Already did,, on 9/11,, all missiles splashed.

    A couple minimal hits,, most missiles splashed.

    French Frigate Launch confirmed,, as well as 4 Israeli f-16s.

    Russia was Targeted..


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    Confirmed: Israel is Responsible for the Downed Aircraft

    A Russian military Ilyushin-20 aircraft was shot down by Syria’s air defense over the Mediterranean Sea because Israel’s F-16 fighters used it as cover ...

    "By using the Russian plane as cover the Israeli air pilots made it vulnerable to Syrian air defense fire. As a result, the Ilyushin-20, its reflective surface being far greater than that of the F-16, was downed by a missile launched with the S-200 system," Konashenkov said.

    Konashenkov said four F-16s from the Israeli Air Force carried out a strike with guided air missiles ... The fighters approached the target from the Mediterranean at a low altitude. The Israeli planes deliberately created a dangerous situation for surface ships and aircraft in that area ...

    "The bombing raid was near the French frigate The Auvergne and in close proximity to the Ilyushin-20 plane from Russia’s Aerospace Force that was about to land," ...


    the Israeli command centers and the F-16s’ pilots "could not but see the Russian plane, which was approaching the runway from an altitude of five kilometers." "Nevertheless they deliberately staged this provocation," ...

    Israel had issued no warning to the command of the Russian military group in Syria of the forthcoming operation. "A hotline warning was received less than one minute before the strike, which left no chance for getting the Russian plane to safety,"
    Last edited by AZJoe; 09-18-2018 at 04:33 AM.
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    RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTER: "ISRAEL BEARS FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOWNING OF IL-20"

    “The blame for the downing of the Russian plane and the deaths of its crew members lies squarely on Israel”

    "We regard the data of provocative Israeli actions as hostile. The result of the irresponsible actions of the Israeli military killed 15 Russian soldiers"

    "As a result of the Israeli military’s irresponsible actions 15 Russian servicemen died," said Defense Ministry Spokesman Gen. Igor Konashenkov. ... Moscow has the right to "respond adequately" to the attack ...
    Last edited by AZJoe; 09-18-2018 at 04:38 AM.
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    Syria - Israel Provocation Kills Russian Soldiers - Moscow Will Take Political Revenge

    Yesterday Turkey and Russia agreed on a further de-escalation in Idelb province in Syria (see the update here). This agreement takes away the chance of an imminent wider war in which the U.S. and some of its allies would use a fake 'chemical attack' as a pretext to launch missiles against a large number of Syrian government targets and military positions.

    A peaceful solution of the Idleb situation is unsatisfying for Israel. The successful Syrian defeat of the Jihadi enemy inside the country would allow Syria and its allies to concentrate their forces against Israel. Israel wants the Syrian government destroyed and the country in chaos.

    On Sunday September 16 Israel hit an Iranian Boeing 747 fright plane at Damascus airport. The plane allegedly carried an Iranian copy of the Russian S-300 long range air defense System for the Syrian army.

    On Monday around 10:00pm local time 4 F-16 jets of the Israeli airforce coming from the sea launched missiles against at least three targets on Syria's coast. The strike came only hours after Israel released satellite images of what it called "strategic targets" in Syria. The integrated Syrian and Russian air-defenses responded.

    The Israeli air force had warned the Russian forces in Syria only one minute before the strike. A Russian IL-20 electronic warfare airplane (red line) was preparing to land at the Russian airport near Latakia just as the Israeli attack (blue) happened.


    Source: Russian defense Ministry - bigger

    The IL-20 was hit 35 kilometers off the coast by a S-200 air-defense missile fired by the Syrian military towards the Israeli attack. There were 15 Russian soldiers on board of the plane which were likely all killed. Russian ships search for survivors. Some wreckage of the plane was found at sea 27 kilometers west of the village of Banias.


    IL-20 electronic warfare version - bigger

    The Israeli attack came out of the same direction as the Russian IL-20. The large 4 propellor plane creates a much bigger radar reflection than the small F-16s fighter jets. The S-200 missiles have a semi-active radar homing seeker. These are passive detectors of a radar signal which is provided by an external (“offboard”) source, in this case the Syrian and Russian radars on the ground. The seeker mistook the large radar reflection of IL-20 for the intended target.

    At the same time as the Israeli air force attacked, a Russian frigate (red) near the coast detected missile launches from the French Frigate Auvergne (blue) nearby. The French frigate carries air, ship and land attack missiles. France denied "any involvement in the incident."

    The Russian Defense Ministry accuses the Israeli government of a deliberate set up:

    "Israel did not warn the command of the Russian troops in Syria about the planned operation. We received a notification via a hotline less than a minute before the strike, which did not allow the Russian aircraft to be directed to a safe zone," Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.

    After the Israeli attack the Syrian state TV showed the headquarter of the Technical Industries Agency near Latakia on fire. Other targets were near Jableh and Homs. At least ten people were wounded due to the attack.

    The Russian military spokesman accused Israel of "hostile action" against Russian forces:

    "We see these provocative actions of Israel as hostile," Konashenkov said, adding that 15 Russian servicemen were killed as a result of the "irresponsible actions" of Israel's Defense Forces, which violated "the spirit of the Israeli-Russian partnership."
    According to the spokesman, the Russian Defense Ministry reserves the right to an "adequate response" following the Israeli attack.

    Israel (and France?) are deliberately provoking the Syrian and Russian forces. It hopes for a response that allows it play the victim and to call on U.S. President Trump for help and protection. The help would come in the form of a U.S., British and French attack on the Syrian government and Syrian military targets.

    Russia will certainly take revenge for the Israeli provocation, but will likely do so in the political arena. On Netanyahoo's personal request Russia had stopped the delivery of original Russian S-300 long range air-defense missiles to the Syrian military. In consequence a Iranian 747 was damaged and 15 Russian soldiers were killed. Netanyahoo can forget about any further such 'favors' from Moscow.

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    ======


    RT
    Putin on Israel’s role in Il-20 downing: ‘Looks accidental, like chain of tragic circumstances’
    https://www.rt.com/news/438728-putin...l-syria-plane/


    ....compared to the downing of the Russian Su-24 by Turkey in 2015, Putin said the two situations were “different.”

    Ankara “deliberately downed” the Russian jet, he explained,
    while the Il-20 incident “looks like a chain of tragic circumstances, because the Israeli plane didn’t shoot down our jet.”

    Russia will investigate the incident, Putin said, adding that Moscow will boost security of Russian troops in Syria following the incident.

    "The incident must be throughout investigated, our position expressed by the ministry of defense is in full agreement with mine."



    https://twitter.com/Ozkok_/status/1042056627137007621




    RT‏
    BREAKING: Israeli army blames Damascus for Russia’s IL-20 downing, mourns death of crew – statement
    https://on.rt.com/9eig

    RT‏
    MORE on IDF statement:
    - Russian plane was not within the area of the operation
    - When Syrian Army launched missiles that hit the plane, IAF jets were within Israeli airspace
    - Israel will share all relevant info with Russian govt to review the incident

    RT‏
    Apart from Damascus, Israel blames Iran and Hezbollah for 'unfortunate incident' with Russian Il-20 plane
    https://www.rt.com/news/438712-idf-s...-il20-downing/

    AFP news agency
    Israel expresses 'sorrow' for Russian deaths, blames Assad and Iran. Disputes that it used downed Russian plane as cover.

    EHSANI2‏
    ISRAEL HOLDS ASSAD FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANE INCIDENT: IDF

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    ISRAELI DOLPHIN SUBS



    https://twitter.com/Syrian_SR/status...66173117038592



    There were some hints regarding the involvement of Israeli subs earlier.
    It could explain reports concerning the French frigate being involved in attack....

    In the same way Israel used the Russian plane as shield
    they could have used the French frigate as cover for their submarine launches.
    sneaky bastards...
    USS Liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    sneaky bastards...
    USS Liberty.
    It will be good to see it come to an end. (but waiting is tough)
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  25. #22
    It was the French!
    It was Israel!
    Oops! It was Syria after all.

    Putin on Israel’s role in Il-20 downing: ‘Looks accidental, like chain of tragic circumstances’
    Know your target.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-18-2018 at 11:58 AM.

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    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It was the French!
    It was Israel!
    Oops! It was Syria after all.
    Which idiotic county initiated this aggression? Oh yeah - Israel.
    Which Idiotic country intentionally started bombing Syria in the first place, without which none of this would have occurred? Oh yeah - Israel.
    Which Idiotic country triggered Syria to launch missiles in self defense. - Oh yeah Israel.
    Which Idiotic country intentionally failed to notify Russia until 1 mintue before its attack, thereby deliberately preventing Russia from moving its planes out of the area. Oh Yeah - Israel.
    Which Idiotic Country deliberately used the larger, slower Russian plane as a shield , intentionally drawing the missile toward it. Oh Yeah - Israel?

    Oops. It was Israel's fault all along.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 09-18-2018 at 12:04 PM.
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Which Idiotic country intentionally started bombing Syria in the first place, without which none of this would have occurred? Oh yeah - Israel.
    Which Idiotic country triggered Syria to launch missiles in self defense. - Oh yeah Israel.
    Which Idiotic country intentionally failed to notify Russia until 1 mintue before its attack, thereby deliberately preventing Russia from moving its planes out of the area. Oh Yeah - Israel.
    Which Idiotic Country deliberately used the larger, slower Russian plane as a shield , intentionally drawing the missile toward it. Oh Yeah - Israel?

    Oops. It was Israel's fault all along.
    Even Putin doesn't blame Israel on this one. Spin failure.

    Putin on Israel’s role in Il-20 downing: ‘Looks accidental, like chain of tragic circumstances

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Even Putin doesn't blame Israel on this one. Spin failure.
    Yes, he is quite the diplomat, patience of a saint. Doesn't change reality. Doesn't Israel's evil acts or responsibility for its acts.

    Which idiotic county initiated this aggression?

    Which Idiotic country intentionally started bombing Syria in the first place, without which none of this would have occurred? .
    Which Idiotic country triggered Syria to launch missiles in self defense.
    Which Idiotic country intentionally failed to notify Russia until 1 mintue before its attack, thereby deliberately preventing Russia from moving its planes out of the area.
    Which Idiotic Country deliberately used the larger, slower Russian plane as a shield , intentionally drawing the missile toward it?

    Israel is like some mass murdering shooter, invading a school, shooting it up, and using a student as a shield, and when that student gets hurt, says "It wasn't my fault. Don't blame me."

    Dr. Paul does a great in the video.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  32. #28
    Capt(N)
    RFS 'Seliger'Seliger Class/project 11982, a special ship (for testing weapons) sent from Sebastopol to the Bosphorus.
    Ship is equipped with special equipment for underwater works.
    I suppose she is going to the crash area of the IL-20.






    ==========

    PUTIN IN PHONE CONVERSATION WITH NETANYAHU REMINDS THAT ISRAELI AIR FORCE CARRIES OUT OPERATIONS IN VIOLATION OF SYRIA'S SOVEREIGNTY

    ISRAELI PM OFFERS PUTIN CONDOLENCES OVER DEATH OF 15 RUSSIAN SERVICEMEN ABOARD IL-20 DOWNED IN SYRIA - KREMLIN

    PUTIN IN PHONE CONVERSATION WITH NETANYAHU URGED ISRAEL 'NOT TO ALLOW SUCH SITUATIONS IN THE FUTURE,'
    REFERRING TO DOWNING OF IL-20 BY SYRIAN AIR DEFENSE SYSTEMS

    PUTIN - RUSSIAN-ISRAELI AGREEMENTS ON PREVENTION OF DANGEROUS INCIDENTS WERE NEGLECTED

    NETANYAHU PROMISES PUTIN MORE INFO ON IL-20 INCIDENT REGARDING ISRAELI AIR OPERATIONS IN SYRIA,
    IT WILL BE DELIVERD TO MOSCOW BY ISRAELI AIR FORCE COMMANDER - KREMLIN

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Even Putin doesn't blame Israel on this one. Spin failure.
    Oh yes he does.. and has made that clear..

    The confusion was deliberate on Israels part..

    If there was ever a country that deserved to be Nuked out of existence it would be Israel.. But it won't.. Christ will deal personally with that.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Even Putin doesn't blame Israel on this one. Spin failure.
    Of course he wouldn't. That way when a "chain of tragic circumstances" befalls an opponent he can state that these things can happen to anyone and point to this event. Putin will get his pound of flesh.

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