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    Performances By A President's Party In His First Midterm

    https://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/64681...ol-of-congress

    Sorted by most to least House losses, based on Gallup approvals, Vital Statistics data

    2010 — Obama 45% approval – Lost 63 House, Lost 6 Senate
    1946 — Truman 33% approval — Lost 55 House, Lost 12 Senate
    1994 — Clinton 46% approval – Lost 54 House, Lost 8 Senate
    1974 — Ford 54% approval – Lost 48 House, Lost 4 Senate
    1966 — Johnson 44% approval – Lost 48 House, Lost 4 Senate
    1982 — Reagan 42% approval – Lost 26 House, Gained 1 Senate
    1954 — Eisenhower 61% approval – Lost 18 House, Lost 1 Senate
    1978 – Carter 49% approval – Lost 15 House, Lost 3 Senate
    1970 — Nixon 58% approval – Lost 12 House, Gained 1 Senate
    1990 — HW Bush 58% approval – Lost 8 House, Lost 1 Senate
    1962 — Kennedy 61% approval – Lost 4 House, Gained 2 Senate
    2002 — Bush 63% approval – Gained 8 House, Gained 1 Senate
    Trump is currently running about a 40% approval rate.
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    Yawn, Trump defies precedents and the media lies about his approval rate more than usual.
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    It will be better than Reagan. The overall approval doesn't tell you approval of party voters. Which is ~90% for Trump.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    It will be better than Reagan. The overall approval doesn't tell you approval of party voters. Which is ~90% for Trump.
    The party voters will vote for Trump no matter what. Just as Dems will vote for their party candidates. However, that is only about a third of all voters for each. To win seats, you need to attract the independents and moderates. He isn't doing that currently. That is making what would normally be pretty safe seats now up for grabs.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-16-2018 at 05:38 PM.
    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post

    Trump is currently running about a 40% approval rate.
    47%

    http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public...ez_track_sep14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The party voters will vote for Trump no matter what. Just as Dems will vote for their party candidates. That is only about a third of voters though for each. To win seats, you need to attract the independents and moderates. He isn't doing that currently. That is making what would normally be pretty safe seats now up for grabs.
    moderates are a dying breed of voter especially for mid-terms. You have to turn out your party loyalists or you get destroyed like Obama did in 2010.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    All liberal shills should be given vacation time until after the midterms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    Rasmussen is always higher than everybody else. That is why Trump likes to cite it. To get a better number, Real Clear Politics averages polls. They currently have his approval rating at 40.9% in that average. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

    FiveThirtyEight also combines polls. They have his approval at 40.2. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

    Trump says that would be 25 points higher without the Mueller probe. If Trump didn't tweet about it all the time, most people would probably be completely unaware of any probe.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-16-2018 at 06:10 PM.
    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    https://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/64681...ol-of-congress



    Trump is currently running about a 40% approval rate.
    I don't see any correlation whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump says that would be 25 points higher without the Mueller probe. If Trump didn't tweet about it all the time, most people would probably be completely unaware of any probe.
    LOL, the MSM hardly talks about anything else.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Rasmussen is always higher than everybody else. That is why Trump likes to cite it. To get a better number, Real Clear Politics averages polls. They currently have his approval rating at 40.9% in that average. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

    FiveThirtyEight also combines polls. They have his approval at 40.2. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

    Trump says that would be 25 points higher without the Mueller probe. If Trump didn't tweet about it all the time, most people would probably be completely unaware of any probe.
    Real Clear Politics did so poorly at predicting the 2016 election why? Because they're an aggregate of polls, where the majority are biased MSM polls. Rasmussen was the closest as far as the popular vote went, having Hillary +2, of any other polling group they used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    Real Clear Politics did so poorly at predicting the 2016 election why? Because they're an aggregate of polls, where the majority are biased MSM polls. Rasmussen was the closest as far as the popular vote went, having Hillary +2, of any other polling group they used.
    Their (RealClearPolitics) final popular vote poll was Clinton 45.5% of the popular vote and Trump 42.2- plus or minus three percent.

    Rasmussen's final poll: Clinton 45%, Trump 43%. Basically identical with margins of error.

    Actual final: Clinton 48.2%, Trump 46.1%.

    https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls...tein-5952.html
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-16-2018 at 09:57 PM.
    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

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