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    China To Take Over Israel's Largest Port, Could Threaten US Naval Operations

    A top Israeli military and energy official has questioned Israel and China's growing economic ties just as a Chinese company is set to begin operating Haifa Port as part of a major 25-year contract previously struck in 2015.
    “When China acquires ports,” Israeli Brigadier General Shaul Horev began in an interview this week with national news source, Arutz Sheva, “it does so under the guise of maintaining a trade route from the Indian Ocean via the Suez Canal to Europe, such as the port of Piraeus in Greece. Does an economic horizon like this have a security impact?"
    Gen. Horev, who has also served as navy chief of staff and chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission, continued to sound the alarm over a Chinese takeover, "We are not weighing that possibility sufficiently. One of the senior American figures at the conference raised the question of whether the U.S. Sixth Fleet can see Haifa as a home port. In light of the Chinese takeover, the question is no longer on the agenda.”
    He is calling for an Israeli security mechanism that that will review and scrutinize Chinese investments in Israel and the Mediterranean to ensure they don't harm the security interests of Israel or its partners, like the United States.

    The Shanghai International Port Group (SIPG) will manage Israel's largest port at Haifa as part of a contract to be inagurated in 2021, which will run for 25 years. Meanwhile a separate Chinese firm was recently awarded a contract to construct a new port in the southern Israeli city of Ashdod.


    The Israeli military official's statements came after a major defense conference hosted in the city of Haifa last month, where the issue of Chinese economic expansion into Israel was discussed and debated.
    According to Israel's Haaretz:
    The Haifa conference was held in conjunction with the conservative Washington-based Hudson Institute. Several of the American participants were former senior Pentagon and navy personnel. The remarks of the senior figure Horev quoted were sharper than the polite tone he used. The Americans who were at the conference think Israel lost its mind when it gave the Chinese the keys to Haifa Port. Once China is in the picture, they said, the Israel Navy will not be able to count on maintaining the close relations it has had with the Sixth Fleet.
    Critical voices of Israel's closer relations with China noted that such decisions as the Haifa port deal with the SIPG were made solely under the oversight of the Transportation Ministry and the Ports Authority, but reportedly had no involvement of the the National Security Council or Israel's navy.



    This is concerning, critics say, as President Trump has ratcheted up his rhetoric over China's threat to American business and interests at home and overseas.
    The US military for example, routinely conducts exercises with the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF), and docks ships and carriers at Israeli ports, including Haifa Port soon to be operated by a Chinese company.
    This is also worrisome considering China's increased ties with Iran and refusal to abide by White House sanctions on Tehran and Trump's demand that countries should stop importing Iran's oil.
    China had jumped at the opportunity to be a prime mover in Iran's economy since international sanctions were lifted in January 2016 as part of the 2015 nuclear deal brokered by the United Kingdom, United States, France, Russia, China, and Germany, but which the Trump White House pulled the US out of last May.
    Relations between China and Iran began to thaw from the moment Chinese President Xi Jinping took office in 2012, and by January 2016 - at the moment sanctions were lifted - Xi visited Tehran, meeting with Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and President Hassan Rouhani - which marked the first time a Chinese president visited Iran in 14 years.
    Critics of the Chinese takeover of Haifa port say this will grow increasingly awkward for Tel Aviv, which has an official position that Iran seeks to wipe Israel off the map.
    Iran's President Rouhani and Xi have since the Israel-China Haifa port deal signed agreements related to the Belt and Road. This included 17 multi-billion-dollar deals covering areas of energy, finance, communications, banking, culture, science, technology, and politics, with a further ten year road map of broader China-Iran cooperation. In total this could see trillions pumped into the Iranian economy over the coming decades while physically connecting China with Europe and Africa on an infrastructural level and in an expanding trade relationship.
    And this all brings back the original questions: if China is to play a crucial lifeline for Iran as it attempts to survive aggressive US sanctions, and if Israel is growing economically closer to China, won't such an alignment be dangerous to Israel's long term security and its tied-at-the-hip relations to Washington?


    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...val-operations
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    Does anyone know if VVVTHISVVV is true?

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    Whoever wrote this article doesn’t know what the fcuk they’re talking about. Haifa port is not being handed over to the Chinese. There is a brand new container terminal being built on the other side of Haifa Bay across from the existing Haifa port. The Sixth Fleet does occasionally anchor ships in the existing Haifa port but this is not in any way affected by the new (additional) container terminal that will be operated by a Chinese company across the bay.
    Besides, terminal operation by multinational firms is pretty common around the world.
    This is fake news.



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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

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    Tel Aviv wiped off the map by Bibi & Donald - Jerusalem is the capital now

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Critics of the Chinese takeover of Haifa port say this will grow increasingly awkward for Tel Aviv, which has an official position that Iran seeks to wipe Israel off the map.
    Tel Aviv is just a third world craphole, since Bibi & The Donald moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem. They've already virtually wiped it off the map, and the Trumpkins love it. Let the Chinese have it, no one cares.

    Fake News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Does anyone know if VVVTHISVVV is true?
    Yes, that does seem to be true.

    The deal was announced three years ago (June 2015). They are responsible for building and managing the new port but won't own it.

    https://www.joc.com/port-news/intern...-haifa-port_-0

    According to the agreement, SIPG will invest around $2 billion into building port facilities and purchasing equipment for the harbor. A 2,296-foot-long harbor will be built during the first phase, which will eventually be extended to nearly a mile long.

    SIPG won the bid in late March to operate the new port in Haifa for 25 years beginning 2021. The port's construction is underway and is expected to end by 2020. Upon completion, it will be able to handle 1.86 million 20-foot-equivalent-unit containers per year, making it the largest harbor in Israel.

    The new port in Haifa is expected to generate thousands of jobs in Israel after it becomes operational by 2021, according to Xinhua News Agency.
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    In all fairness, they have had a mutually beneficial freedom democratic relationship going back decades.

    Report: Israel Passes U.S. Military Technology to China
    24 Dec 2013 By Bryant Jordan
    Secret U.S. missile and electro-optics technology was transferred to China recently by Israel, prompting anger from the U.S. and causing a senior Israeli defense official to resign.
    https://www.military.com/defensetech...ology-to-china

    Washington Report on Middle East Affairs,April/May 1999

    U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency Report Accuses Israel of Laser Technology Transfer to China

    By Shawn L. Twing

    Despite the mushrooming scandal over reports that a Chinese-American citizen turned over to China sensitive American nuclear weapons technology from the Los Alamos defense research laboratory, a report from the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) accusing Israel of transferring American laser technology to China has been almost totally ignored by mainstream American media.
    An exception was The Washington Times, which on Jan. 27 carried an article headlined “Israel Suspected of Transferring U.S. Laser Weapon Data to China.”ť In the article, staff writer Bill Gertz cited a recent DIA report not only accusing Israel of selling U.S. laser technology to China, but also of pressuring American defense contractors to make restricted software codes related to classified laser research available to Israeli defense companies.
    The weapons program in question is the Tactical High Energy Laser (THEL), formerly known as Nautilus. THEL was provided to Israel as part of a 1996 defense agreement between the late Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and President Bill Clinton. The stated goal for the U.S.-Israel joint program—so far funded by the United States with more than $130 million from the Pentagon’s budget—is to enable Israel to shoot down short-range Katyusha rockets fired at them by Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon. (For more on the 1996 agreement providing THEL to Israel, see “Clinton Promises Israel Additional Aid, Including Nautilus Laser System,”ť Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1996, p. 37.)
    https://www.wrmea.org/1999-april-may...-to-china.html



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