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  1. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Does whose fault it is change what should be done about it?
    What do you think is going to be done about it?
    "The Patriarch"



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  3. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    LOL. So you go around randomly accusing people of supporting child sex slavery, which is what you freaking did you lying sack of puss, then when someone neg reps you over it you get mad? Ummm...okay.
    That's not how it went down. I didn't straw man and asked your actual position. Feel free to link all quotes.

  4. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You started it with this among other things:

    That was in response to your "Injuns should have been selective about who they let over" comment. There wasn't exactly a passport system back then. How would you suggest the "injuns" do the selecting? (And LOL and someone who thinks the only other thing he can say for Native Americans is "injuns" in order to differentiate from India. Like nobody would know from the context what "Indian" meant?)
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  5. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    No comprende.
    That figures.

    If we have been flooded with an excess of invaders on purpose we are much worse off than if the problem had happened naturally and we need to get rid of them even faster than we would have needed to other wise.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  6. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Then you are in favor of turning a blind eye to most of the invaders with almost non-existent enforcement, the problem was smaller back then so the results weren't as catastrophic as they will be now but lax enforcement back then is one thing that created the situation we now have.
    And you're full of $#@! as usual.
    "The Patriarch"

  7. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    That's not how it went down. I didn't straw man and asked your actual position. Feel free to link all quotes.
    That's EXACTLY how it went down.

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Will you allow citizens to end it? I'm for that. Property owners or their hires? States executing none citizens for trespass? Child sex trafficking is NOT helped by closed borders. In any sense. Prove it.
    I can only assume that you are fine with it. Free market and all that.
    There is no free market in human trade.
    But, I dunno, don't wanna assume or strawman.
    You tell me. All roads from the north and south, all ports from the east and west, open, no control. Cool with you?
    So fvck you. Seriously.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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  9. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That figures.

    If we have been flooded with an excess of invaders on purpose we are much worse off than if the problem had happened naturally and we need to get rid of them even faster than we would have needed to other wise.
    This is not going to happen. All your dreams will come to naught. So now what?

    And of course it was on purpose.
    "The Patriarch"

  10. #218
    At this point in time, September of 2018, is there an issue that has the libertarians more split than this one?

    I can't recall such an "ants going crazy on a stomped on ant hill" situation since maybe Rand in 2012 endorsing Romney.

  11. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    That was in response to your "Injuns should have been selective about who they let over" comment. There wasn't exactly a passport system back then. How would you suggest the "injuns" do the selecting?
    Being primitive they might have used race as a rule of thumb or they might have accepted a limited number of individuals that assimilated peacefully and driven off any large groups.


    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    (And LOL and someone who thinks the only other thing he can say for Native Americans is "injuns" in order to differentiate from India. Like nobody would know from the context what "Indian" meant?)
    You call them what you want and I'll call them what I want, "Injuns" isn't pejorative, it is simply a colloquialism.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  12. #220
    STILL waiting on an answer from liberty loving @jmdrake.

    1) Can property owners on the border shoot trespassers?
    2) Can states on the border order their militia to shoot trepassers?
    Last edited by phill4paul; 09-14-2018 at 09:33 PM.

  13. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Champuckett View Post
    At this point in time, September of 2018, is there an issue that has the libertarians more split than this one?

    I can't recall such an "ants going crazy on a stomped on ant hill" situation since maybe Rand in 2012 endorsing Romney.
    Because it is an existential crisis, liberty can't survive a flood of foreign communists, on the other hand the anarchist wing sees border control as a blasphemy against their purist religion.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  14. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This is not going to happen. All your dreams will come to naught. So now what?
    It might, if it doesn't then we will have to choose between secession/expulsion, civil war and becoming a communist hellhole.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  15. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    STILL waiting on an answer from liberty loving jmdrake.

    1) Can property owners on the border shoot trespassers?
    2) Can states on the border order their militia to shoot trepassers?
    I already told you I have no problem with property patrols but I am against killing. I don't think it was right for the Texas man who killed a prostitute because she took his money and didn't give him sex and I am against killing someone because they walk across your lawn or field or whatever. But I guess to you that is "liberal." If you want to shot at someone with rock salt or bean bags I don't care. Your buddy @Swordsmyth is against the wall. Do you support it? Just curious.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  16. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    And you're full of $#@! as usual.
    Talking to yourself again old man?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  18. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Because it is an existential crisis, liberty can't survive a flood of foreign communists, on the other hand the anarchist wing sees border control as a blasphemy against their purist religion.
    Liberty isn't surviving period. It has bigger and more direct threats than the border.
    "The Patriarch"

  19. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Talking to yourself again old man?
    I am talking to you junior.
    "The Patriarch"

  20. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    What do you think is going to be done about it?
    Patrol the borders and deport the invaders and reduce immigration after a freeze.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  21. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Being primitive they might have used race as a rule of thumb or they might have accepted a limited number of individuals that assimilated peacefully and driven off any large groups.
    Obviously. And hence my sign based on YOUR implication.


    You call them what you want and I'll call them what I want, "Injuns" isn't pejorative, it is simply a colloquialism.
    And I can use a giphy to illustrate what you were really saying. But you decided to get butthurt over it. That's your problem.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  22. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I am talking to you junior.
    Then you are projecting.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  23. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Patrol the borders and deport the invaders and reduce immigration after a freeze.
    Lol, good luck.
    "The Patriarch"

  24. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Obviously. And hence my sign based on YOUR implication.
    Yes, you the congenital racist didn't give them the possibility that I did of conducting themselves in a non-racist manner even though many of them did exactly what Isaid they might do instead of just being racist.




    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    And I can use a giphy to illustrate what you were really saying. But you decided to get butthurt over it. That's your problem.
    You continued to bring race into the issue when I ignored that picture.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  25. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Then you are projecting.
    Whatever you say sparky.
    "The Patriarch"



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  27. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Liberty isn't surviving period.
    Even if you are right in your defeatism we can still stretch out its lifespan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    It has bigger and more direct threats than the border.
    Wrong.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  28. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Of course not. She came over as a legal refugee. We screwed up her country over a course of decades. Republicans took the credit for "liberating" Afghanistan first from communism and then from the Taliban. Blowback?

    Afghanistan before and after American's fighting communism there.

    Maybe if more people knew that it was actually democratic president Jimmy Carter that started arming jihadists in Afghanistan? But sadly Ronald Reagan took the credit and there ya go.
    Won't get an argument from me on that...but how does that change the fundamental fact that she is running for office on a platform of radically changing the relationship with state government, in my backyard?

    I'm very sorry the government, that I am trying my damnedest to reduce and eliminate, blew up your homeland.

    I really am.

    I will be more than willing to fund relief efforts to help you rebuild your country in whatever fashion you wish.

    Now, please, go.

  29. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Even if you are right in your defeatism we can still stretch out its lifespan.


    Wrong.
    No, Im right. And you're a fool.
    "The Patriarch"

  30. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes, you the congenital racist didn't give them the possibility that I did of conducting themselves in a non-racist manner even though many of them did exactly what Isaid they might do instead of just being racist.
    You, the obvious racist, contradicted yourself by first calling them "primitive" and then as an afterthought coming up with a non primitive solution. So how exactly is this "primitive" culture going to keep up with the assimilation statistics and decide when to make the cutoff?

    You continued to bring race into the issue when I ignored that picture.
    You initially brought race into the picture and first played the race card Mr. Racist. Must make you feel good. Are you on Jesse Jackson's payroll?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  31. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Won't get an argument from me on that...but how does that change the fundamental fact that she is running for office on a platform of radically changing the relationship with state government, in my backyard?
    I'm curious. Do you think it's possible for a Muslim immigrant to win a republican primary regardless of his/her platform? If the answer to that question is no than how is this not a self fulfilling prophecy?

    I'm very sorry the government, that I am trying my damnedest to reduce and eliminate, blew up your homeland.

    I really am.

    I will be more than willing to fund relief efforts to help you rebuild your country in whatever fashion you wish.

    Now, please, go.
    I guess the "injuns" are saying the same thing. (Except they didn't have anything to do with screwing up Europe).
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  32. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    That's EXACTLY how it went down.



    So fvck you. Seriously.
    I did say "assume." I accused you of nothing. Christ, you are such a prog. Even gave me a neg rep. even though that, at this point is meaningless. Go find a safe space.

  33. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    A) I didn't say that was the only enforcement I wanted Mr. Liar.
    You responded that you would support the policy in question in response to me query about internal enforcement vs. border enforcement and you said nothing about supporting border enforcement, if you support border enforcement in spite of everything you have said to the contrary in this thread please explain.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    B) You said you were against a border wall and an "internal police state" (what you called what Originalist was saying) without giving him a chance to explain how he would enforce it.
    C) So far YOU haven't actually said what you would do on the border except "close" it.
    I have said I wanted the border patrolled and immigration limited.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I could be dumber than dirt but still smarter than you.
    Perhaps but you are still dumber than me so just how dumb are you then?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  34. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You responded that you would support the policy in question in response to me query about internal enforcement vs. border enforcement and you said nothing about supporting border enforcement, if you support border enforcement in spite of everything you have said to the contrary in this thread please explain.
    So you think the only kind of immigration enforcement is border enforcement? I really am dealing with a lack of intelligence here. Okay. Here's another non-border and non-police state enforcement that I support. Check citizenship before doling out any welfare benefits state or federal. I'm sure you could think of some more if you tried hard enough.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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