http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...source-over-to
What say you, liberty lovers?
The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.
I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.
Sounds good to me. Security clearance yanked and fired.
Pretty sure most liberty lovers couldn't care less about palace intrigue. Cut the damned spending!!Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
We care because we're next on the menu. Look at what they did to Flynn, who had stars on his shoulder. What does mean for the mundanes?
Exposing a cabal of non-elected deep state operatives out to ensure everything continues on as business as usual? Nope, nothing a liberty lover should care about there.
Nothing changes. Dammit, pay attention. Government still grows. Regardless of these petty little games they play for the brass ring. Apparently you forgot or got conned into thinking something was different. They don't care about you. Never did. They care about power. Hair Fuhrer, included.
You enjoy your soap opera. Call me when someone makes real cuts to spending. (as opposed to cutting in one place, only to raise it even higher in other politically-favored places)
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Palace intrigue IS business as usual.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
he who wish to be anonymous should remain anonymous.
"the sources name you say?... it's ann... ann onymous."
Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows
The supposed leaker cheered increased military spending. Firing that person couldn’t hurt.
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Insider leakers are bad. Bradley Manning. Edward Snowden. Fire and execute them.
Secrecy is for business, transparency is for government.
This is over an article allegedly written by the Q of the left... or Deep State Q...
I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration
I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/o...gtype=Homepage
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Ya, it's not that hard to figure out why the deep state doesn't like Trump.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Bull$#@!.
This just makes it harder for you to make the argument that Trump is deep state and so you made a silly nonsensical post.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Actually it supports the claim that Trump has surrounded himself with Deep State. He hired all those people. He wanted them working for him. "I will only hire the best!"
Pretty much my POV.
Nothing changes. Dammit, pay attention. Government still grows. Regardless of these petty little games they play for the brass ring. Apparently you forgot or got conned into thinking something was different. They don't care about you. Never did. They care about power. Hair Fuhrer, included.
You enjoy your soap opera. Call me when someone makes real cuts to spending. (as opposed to cutting in one place, only to raise it even higher in other politically-favored places)
Since it makes such a fuss, it could also be a ruse to take our eyes off of more politics. Maybe Ivanka wrote it- or even Trumpy, himself.
There is no spoon.
No, sorry zippy, but my brain doesn't fit contradictory statements as well as yours. You said Trump is deep state because he has people in his cabinet who are deep state.
If he has people in the deep state working for him trying to resist him and take him down, then he isn't deep state. If he was, then they would just be cooperating with him and he would be cooperating with them. That doesn't seem to be what is happening at all.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
The only thing that has changed is your name for them. Prior to the election, you called them, "The Establishment". They didn't become the "Deep State" until Nov. '16.
That being said, these guys ALWAYS fight amongst themselves for power. ALWAYS. You falsely believe that they are working together from some master plan. The only thing that really unites them is that they like to control things and crave power. They will fight over that power all day long, but will NEVER give it back to the people.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
"See, they are out to get me!" False flag! Fake news! We can use this to make the media look bad if we put it out!Pretty much my POV.
Since it makes such a fuss, it could also be a ruse to take our eyes off of more politics. Maybe Ivanka wrote it- or even Trumpy, himself.
More people should give up their rights in the name of "national security."
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-06-2018 at 01:33 PM.
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This person is not a leaker of any government wrongdoing and provided zero justification for legal protection. Just the opposite, admitted to undermining our democracy. Should be fired at the least and prosecuted at the worst.
If this was the Obama administration would the response be the same? Prosecute or reward the insider?
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See now you're getting confused. You think you're being sarcastic, but that's actually what your side wants to do.
If this were the Obama administration things would not have dragged on as long as they have. Republicans tend to lick their wounds and wait for the next election. There will be gripes about concrete policy issues but not this vague nonsensical conspiratorial talk without any evidence relentlessly foisted upon the audience.
The closest the Republicans came to these antics was the birth certificate issue, and it failed to gain any traction so they dropped it. Whether it was true or not, the way people carried on about it became detrimental to the GOP and wasn't having the effect on democrats they thought it might.
We are two years into this presidency and the media has talked about alleged Trump collusion with Russia 25 hours a day, 8 days a week. It's not hurting Trump's image. It just makes the left look incredibly desperate and unhinged.
Last edited by nobody's_hero; 09-06-2018 at 03:23 PM.
This is getting silly.T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
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Trump did say Snowden should be executed.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-06-2018 at 03:58 PM.
Would it be better or worse if people like Flynn could lie to the FBI without repercussions?
Do you think that they'd let you get away with it?
This may be what you want, but it is not what Trump wants. What Trump wants is absolute loyalty to himself. What Trump wants is non-transparent government where he reigns unchecked. He also hired these very same people. HE chose John Bolton, etc.
Using government force to sniff out the rat does hurt. It takes away checks on the top executive position and most powerful overall position in the country. When looked at in isolation, sure I have no love lost for this neocon losing his job, HOWEVER not being able to leak such information due to fear of the state is exactly the kind of stuff that I am opposed to.
Finger pointing collectivist tribal nonsense from the chief brainlet of the RPF. "Authoritarianism good for me but not for thee." Trump is trying to create his own "cabal" or whatever, which even if/when it fails, will have laid the groundwork for other people to seize these power grabbing precedents and take things even further in the statist direction where the state and its executives are protected and the citizens are hapless against their tyranny.
Exposing the incompetence of the top executive isn't something that should be protected?
The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.
I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.
I'm glad you know the mind of Trump. You should offer your services as a psychic.
Ya got a beef ya stand up and say so. Otherwise you're just a pussy with a cushy job you don't want to lose.
Like every president he is trying to create an administration that will work with him to fulfill the campaign promises he made to those that got him elected. The problem is that those that run the admin. day to day just want things to operate as usual and retire with a nice pension.
Nope. Got something to say, then don't be a pussy. Actual evidence and putting your ass on the line means something to me. Because as far as I am concerned "anonymous source" just means made up bull$#@!.
I think we are due for a new cabal. Not a fan of the old cabal. Not a fan of any cabals I supposed, but I really don't like the current one.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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