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    Woodward’s book says advisor Cohn “stole a letter off Trump’s desk” for 'national security'

    This books business on the heels Omarossa tapes and Michael Cohen turncoating is getting bit out of hand.

    From Drudge:


    A near-constant subject of withering presidential attacks was Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Trump told Porter that Sessions was a “traitor” for recusing himself from overseeing the Russia investigation, Woodward writes. Mocking Sessions’s accent, Trump added, “This guy is mentally retarded. He’s this dumb Southerner. … He couldn’t even be a one-person country lawyer down in Alabama.”

    At a dinner with Mattis and Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, among others, Trump lashed out at a vocal critic, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). He falsely suggested that the former Navy pilot had been a coward for taking early release from a prisoner-of-war camp in Vietnam because of his father’s military rank and leaving others behind.
    Mattis swiftly corrected his boss: “No, Mr. President, I think you’ve got it reversed.” The defense secretary explained that McCain, who died Aug. 25, had in fact turned down early release and was brutally tortured during his five years at the Hanoi Hilton.

    “Oh, okay,” Trump replied, according to Woodward’s account.
    With Trump’s rage and defiance impossible to contain, Cabinet members and other senior officials learned to act discreetly. Woodward describes an alliance among Trump’s traditionalists — including Mattis and Gary Cohn, the president’s former top economic adviser — to stymie what they considered dangerous acts.

    “It felt like we were walking along the edge of the cliff perpetually,” Porter is quoted as saying. “Other times, we would fall over the edge, and an action would be taken.”
    After Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad launched a chemical attack on civilians in April 2017, Trump called Mattis and said he wanted to assassinate the dictator. “Let’s $#@!ing kill him! Let’s go in. Let’s kill the $#@!ing lot of them,” Trump said, according to Woodward.

    Mattis told the president that he would get right on it. But after hanging up the phone, he told a senior aide: “We’re not going to do any of that. We’re going to be much more measured.” The national security team developed options for the more conventional airstrike that Trump ultimately ordered.

    Then-White House chief economic adviser Gary Cohn tried to temper Trump’s nationalistic trade views. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
    Cohn, a Wall Street veteran, tried to tamp down Trump’s strident nationalism regarding trade. According to Woodward, Cohn “stole a letter off Trump’s desk” that the president was intending to sign to formally withdraw the United States from a trade agreement with South Korea. Cohn later told an associate that he removed the letter to protect national security and that Trump did not notice that it was missing.

    Cohn made a similar play to prevent Trump from pulling the United States out of the North American Free Trade Agreement, something the president has long threatened to do. In spring 2017, Trump was eager to withdraw from NAFTA and told Porter: “Why aren’t we getting this done? Do your job. It’s tap, tap, tap. You’re just tapping me along. I want to do this.”

    Under orders from the president, Porter drafted a notification letter withdrawing from NAFTA. But he and other advisers worried that it could trigger an economic and foreign relations crisis. So Porter consulted Cohn, who told him, according to Woodward: “I can stop this. I’ll just take the paper off his desk.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...370_story.html



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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Cited words about widely respected Sessions are also too incredible.
    Somebody is trying too hard. Have they heard of the boomerang effect - https://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...t-(psychology) - ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Somebody is trying too hard. Have they heard of the boomerang effect - https://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...t-(psychology) - ?
    I'm still not convinced that Trump and NBC were/are secretly in bed even if it is true that NBC was so disliked that their attacks were bound to make Trump more popular.

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    All of the above? Some of it could be true, media usually twists/colors/bends/exaggerates facts.

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    Possibly...possibly...yes.



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    Both Mattis and Kelli refute what is attributed to them saying in the book.

    Just more "someone knows someone who heard someone say someone said something," that passes for investigative journalism these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Both Mattis and Kelli refute what is attributed to them saying in the book.

    Just more "someone knows someone who heard someone say someone said something," that passes for investigative journalism these days.
    except in this case he is outright accusing a specific someone of violating the presidential records act.

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    Woodward is selling books because he is trying to capitalize on his previous successes.

    Is Woodward liberal?

    Does he have an agenda?

    Has he scrutinized HRC or written any books with her as the subject?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Both Mattis and Kelli refute what is attributed to them saying in the book.

    Just more "someone knows someone who heard someone say someone said something," that passes for investigative journalism these days.
    Cohn will probably soon refiute also that he didn't steal letters from POTUS' desk for 'national security'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Woodward is selling books because he is trying to capitalize on his previous successes.

    Is Woodward liberal?

    Does he have an agenda?

    Has he scrutinized HRC or written any books with her as the subject?
    There is partisanship and almost everyone is selling something.

    But Cohn has not denied this well-publicized claim, that is bit curious.


    Trump Says If Gary Cohn Stole Papers, He’ll Never Speak to Him Again

    September 7, 2018
    President Donald Trump said he would never speak again to Gary Cohn if the former top White House adviser stole paperwork from his desk.

    “If he did that, I would never speak to him again, I would never speak to him again,” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on Friday.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...k-to-him-again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Fake News
    On Drudge now:


    TAPES? Cohn Cites No Specific Objections to Woodward Reporting...

    Between the lines: Cohn cited no specific objections to Woodward's extensive reporting of his private views that Trump needed to be saved from his most dangerous impulses. We're told the book is based on hundreds of hours of interviews, most of which were taped with the consent of the source.

    • The book has caused heartburn in the White House, with Trump trashing it repeatedly on Twitter.
    • Trump has privately been angry at both Gary Cohn's and Rob Porter's starring roles in the book, which both Trump and White House officials view as evidence that they were major sources for the author.
    • Woodward's book opens with a dramatic scene in which Cohn sneaks into the Oval Office and removes from the president's desk a one-page draft letter addressed to the South Korean president, terminating the United States-Korea Free Trade Agreement.
    • "I stole it off his desk," Woodward quotes Cohn as later telling an associate. "I wouldn't let him see it. He's never going to see that document. Got to protect the country."

    The bottom line: The vast majority of the scenes involving Cohn reflect reporting that Axios has done over the course of the Trump presidency.
    Woodward statement to Axios: “I continue to stand by my reporting.”


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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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