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    The Torture Of Assange: A Blight On The US Justice System

    The Torture Of Assange: A Blight On The US Justice System



    Wikileaks founder and chief editor Julian Assange has been in solitary confinement in the Ecuadorian embassy for more than six years. Though the original charges have been dropped against him, he remains in the Embassy for fear of being extradited to the US for prosecution. His "crime"? Publishing things the government does not want us to know. It is past time for Assange to be freed.
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    It's not like he's threatening anyone with the information he releases, he just embarrasses politicians. They can't have that.
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    Mr. Julian Assange is either the world's worst wanker as by a U.K definition of the same
    Or he MIGHT be the guy who put the word "lodestar" in a college level essay if DJT has
    promised a POTUS pardon an' then yanks it all back. He is the one guy that needs to be
    given a polygraph test or better, but won't be. As it stands now, he is a hacker, at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    It's not like he's threatening anyone with the information he releases, he just embarrasses politicians. They can't have that.
    Bingo. He set Trump up. He whammies him & Pence with the same essay. He has a stalking horse.

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    Assange releases inside info on politicians (Democrats mostly) and people cheer him. A Trump insider releases inside information on a politician and people scream "treason".

    Just another ferriner trying to get another country to let him in.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-08-2018 at 01:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Assange releases inside info on politicians (Democrats mostly) and people cheer him. A Trump insider releases inside information on a politician and people scream "treason".

    Just another ferriner trying to get another country to let him in.
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Assange releases inside info on politicians (Democrats mostly) and people cheer him. A Trump insider releases inside information on a politician and people scream "treason".

    Just another ferriner trying to get another country to let him in.
    1) The first documents released by Assange were critical of George W. Bush a REPUBLICAN!

    2) Assange played the same role that the NYT did in publishing information released by someone else.

    3) Republicans and democrats attack Assange.

    4) You're just making an ass of yourself.
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    United States Will Bring Assange to US in Chains

    in ten years’ time, Wikileaks published more classified information than all other media combined. It exposed human rights abuses, government spying, torture, and war crimes on an unprecedented scale. WikiLeaks put government, corporations and even the Pentagon, the FBI, the CIA and other intel agencies on notice that they could no longer count on operating in secret. It created a trove of primary source material that serious journalists and researchers will mine for years to come. Its publications are accessible to readers who prefer primary sources to mostly mediated news.

    Wikileaks so infuriates the USA’s most violent, corrupt, and criminal institutions that Hillary Clinton half-jokingly suggested drone-bombing Assange. Other U.S. politicians called for his execution by other means. …

    Adam Schiff … chair of the House Intelligence Committee … said he would speak to Assange “when he is in U.S. custody, not before.” Schiff is a vociferous and supremely self-righteous leader of the Democratic Party’s “Resistance,” … The “Resistance” tolerates only … one loyalty: Russia is the enemy …. Russia dares to position missiles on its own borders … to respond to NATO’s missiles on the other side. The U.S. must build more missiles, more drones, more nuclear weapons, and every other sort of weapon …

    Moral and racial superiority entitles the U.S. to occupy the world with military bases, ringing any nation that challenges its hegemony with military aircraft, battleships, assault vehicles, and military surveillance. … to shut down access to information deviating from its narratives and therefore to arrest and extradite Julian Assange.

    The Republican Party shares the same supremely intolerant nature as the Democrats, but differentiates itself by insisting that, although Russia is the enemy, Donald Trump did not collude with Russia … The Republicans also want to silence the founder of Wikileaks and … shut the organization down. Trump’s … Mike Pompeo, has called Wikileaks a “non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia” and vowed to hunt Assange down. …

    CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, who spent two years in prison for exposing the agency’s official use of torture, said if Assange walks out of the embassy without a guarantee of safe passage, he will be extradited to the U.S. in chains:
    We all know why the British have that embassy ringed. It’s to snatch him and to turn him over to the United States. If that happens, the CIA and the FBI are both going to be on that plane and they’re both going to be at least attempting to interrogate him all the way back home. They will bring him back to the United States in chains because that’s what they do.“

    Dawson says the FBI and CIA will interrogate and torture Assange to try to obtain information that would allow them to bring Wikileaks down. …
    They want to know about security files for example. They want to know about the inner processes and workings of Wikileaks. They want access to the knowledge that’s inside Julian’s brain. And they will torture him. And they will interrogate him in order to attempt to get that. …

    “At the end of the day they want to punish him for outing their corruption and their crimes. They’ve been waiting eight years to do it, and they will be rubbing their hands together with glee at the prospect of the UK detaining him and extraditing him to the USA.”
    Last edited by AZJoe; 11-15-2018 at 05:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Assange releases inside info on politicians (Democrats mostly) and people cheer him. A Trump insider releases inside information on a politician and people scream "treason".

    Just another ferriner trying to get another country to let him in.

    Let me type this slowly so you hopefully get the message:

    TOO


    MUCH


    METH

    Slow down there cowboy.

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    It would be wonderful if he was released without any fear of being charged by anyone.

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.



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    May be time for a mass data dump?


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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Tip #1. Don't try to make your host look bad- especially when he is giving you free room and board.

    https://gizmodo.com/julian-assange-a...ors-1833770880

    Julian Assange Accused of Leaking President of Ecuador's Private Family Photos

    Ecuador’s President Lenin Moreno has accused Julian Assange of violating the terms of his asylum and leaking private photos of Moreno’s family and friends online in the latest dust-up between the WikiLeaks founder and his increasingly frustrated hosts.

    Speaking to the Ecuadorean Radio Broadcasters’ Association yesterday, Moreno suggested that Assange had been intercepting the president’s private messages and had even leaked “photos of my bedroom, what I eat, and how my wife and daughters and friends dance,” according to the Associated Press. Moreno reportedly provided no evidence of the hacking.

    Assange has been holed up in Ecuador’s embassy in London since he jumped bail on sexual assault-related charges from Sweden in 2012. Those charges have since been dropped over a technicality, but Assange still considers himself a prisoner in the embassy despite the fact that he’s free to leave at any time. Assange has maintained for some time that he fears he’ll be extradited to the United States where prosecutors have filed unknown criminal charges against him.

    The white-haired $#@!-stirrer also claims that he’s being silenced because his internet access in the embassy was abruptly cut off a year ago. Officials from Ecuador accused Assange of meddling in international politics before his internet access was taken away.

    “Mr. Assange has violated the agreement we reached with him and his legal counsel too many times,” Moreno said, according to an English translation by Reuters. “It is not that he cannot speak and express himself freely, but he cannot lie, nor much less hack private accounts or phones.”

    Back in January of 2018, Moreno called Assange a “nuisance” and an “inherited problem.” Ecuador’s previous president, Rafael Correa, was the one to originally grant Assange asylum and Moreno has seemed far less tolerant of Assange’s provocative behavior. WikiLeaks has suggested that Moreno’s real problem is that Ecuador’s alleged corruption has been exposed through the so-called INA Papers. Moreno is facing a corruption investigation brought by a rival lawmaker who suggests he took money from a Chinese company for a hydroelectric dam project. The money was allegedly laundered through a shell company in Panama, according to Venezuelan state media.

    “If President Moreno wants to illegally terminate a refugee publisher’s asylum to cover up an offshore corruption scandal, history will not be kind,” WikiLeaks said in a statement to the Associated Press.

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.



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