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    SPECULATION: Trump becoming less controllable?

    Are the firewalls breaking down? The Japanese delegation thinks so...




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    Trump doesn't let anyone control him. He lets the deep state think that they do, but they never did and they never will.

    He's draining the swamp and they're not even noticing that he's doing it
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    Definitely has entertainment value.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Kind of hard to control somebody whose been an alpha male from the time he was born.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    I think he has been getting angrier & angrier, running around cussing 'em all out.
    He feels 100% betrayed by people he thought were 100% loyal, earlier, when he
    acted like a blithering jack@ss he did not expect to be jumped ad infinitum for it.

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    What will be the new excuse for everything that Trump does?
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Kind of hard to control somebody whose been an alpha male from the time he was born.
    The main problem is that he's not a micromanager. They can hold him off and he's only going to be able to get the real outcome through backchannels. Some of them routinely ignore or delay directives from him. Earlier in the year, Kelly was bragging that he had saved the country great problems by sidetracking Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    What will be the new excuse for everything that Trump does?
    Why does one need an excuse for winning?
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    He's still doing everything the bankers direct him to do to make massive changes to the system (some good ones, yes, but still) just like FDR did. Why can't people grasp that the President is a PR man and doesn't directly control anything? It's really not a hard concept to grasp.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Why does one need an excuse for winning?
    If he were winning, he would not need any excuses.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    If he were winning, he would not need any excuses.
    I’m going to move to strike that answer as non-responsive.
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    Jeff Sessions is soon to quit, be fired, retire or just walk out the door or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    He's still doing everything the bankers direct him to do to make massive changes to the system (some good ones, yes, but still) just like FDR did. Why can't people grasp that the President is a PR man and doesn't directly control anything? It's really not a hard concept to grasp.
    This time is different!










    /sarc

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    The MAGA controls all things great and small.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    "For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    I think he has been getting angrier & angrier, running around cussing 'em all out.
    He feels 100% betrayed by people he thought were 100% loyal, earlier, when he
    acted like a blithering jack@ss he did not expect to be jumped ad infinitum for it.
    Mark TWAIN is a brilliant writer....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Definitely has entertainment value.
    We already have food, shelter and safety.

    It is an entertainment driven world now.
    Internet is almost a right.

    Get it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    What will be the new excuse for everything that Trump does?
    ...deep state coup

    ...holding him hostage.

    ...arrests imminent

    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    I think he has been getting angrier & angrier, running around cussing 'em all out.
    He feels 100% betrayed by people he thought were 100% loyal, earlier, when he
    acted like a blithering jack@ss he did not expect to be jumped ad infinitum for it.
    What's most interesting is why he thought people who obviously loathed him were 100% loyal.

    ...it's clear enough why he needs to think that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    I think he has been getting angrier & angrier, running around cussing 'em all out.
    He feels 100% betrayed by people he thought were 100% loyal, earlier, when he
    acted like a blithering jack@ss he did not expect to be jumped ad infinitum for it.
    Like Warren Harding.
    Who the Dems almost slandered as the worst president ever...

    According to Howard dean... ..Who, IIRC, I gave $200 to.

    Harding is so safe now.
    Trump will be worstest Nazi forever.

    (P.S. Harding was unaware of most of the scandals happening under his presidency, and was TWICE reported to be caught LITERALLY strangling one of his cabinet members.)

    P.P.S
    As Liu Bang, peasant and founder of the Han dynasty lamented:
    "I execute ten -thousand corrupt men, and the next day, ten thousand corrupt men take their place"

    Trump knows he is in a cave with the goblins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ...deep state coup

    ...holding him hostage.

    ...arrests imminent



    What's most interesting is why he thought people who obviously loathed him were 100% loyal.

    ...it's clear enough why he needs to think that.
    If the democrats win back the house they will install Mike Pence as president, you don't want that do you??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    I think he has been getting angrier & angrier, running around cussing 'em all out.
    He feels 100% betrayed by people he thought were 100% loyal, earlier, when he
    acted like a blithering jack@ss he did not expect to be jumped ad infinitum for it.
    Is this an impeachable offense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    If the democrats win back the house they will install Mike Pence as president, you don't want that do you??
    They will do their best to install Pelosi as president and I suspect R3v might want that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    If the democrats win back the house they will install Mike Pence as president, you don't want that do you??
    In all seriousness, they probably won't impeach him if they win the House (if they do, they're idiots - ask the 90s GOP).

    It's more about the psychological effect of not winning on Donald "you're gonna get tired of winning" Trump for 2020.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They will do their best to install Pelosi as president and I suspect R3v might want that.
    The parties are both, as presently constituted, useless.

    The Dems are likely to remain useless for the foreseeable future.

    For the GOP, there is the slightest glimmer of hope that if Trump's big government nationalism implodes, there might be an opening for libertarians.

    Hence, any rational libertarian should be rooting for Trump's ouster, which means electoral losses which discredit him and his partisans.

    It would be best if the GOP lost big this November in Congress, and then Trump lost in 2020, but the GOP hung on to at least one house.

    Then, the GOP, in opposition, might once again pretend to favor small government.

    Otherwise, if there's no potential for a change within the GOP, it makes no difference at all who wins what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Hence, any rational libertarian should be rooting for Trump's ouster, which means electoral losses which discredit him and his partisans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What's the upside for libertarians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    What's the upside for libertarians?
    ...

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    if Trump's big government nationalism implodes, there might be an opening for libertarians.

    ...the GOP, in opposition, might once again pretend to favor small government.
    You may have noticed the sudden death of the libertarian movement around the time the TV character became popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
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    You may have noticed the sudden death of the libertarian movement around the time the TV character became popular.
    Libertarian movement died Sep 11, 2001.
    Part of me thinks that was the whole reason it happened.
    I was balls deep in Libertarian movement that day.
    We were gaining popularity greatly. We were winning 5% for states.
    I was front lines, real lines, not internet lines. Face to face.
    Then Overton window shifted. Drug war? Who cares!? Mooslims! 9/11.
    Yay, now instead of drug war, America gets real war!

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
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    You may have noticed the sudden death of the libertarian movement around the time the TV character became popular.
    No such event happened, Trump is our best current chance for moving the conversation our direction.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Libertarian movement died Sep 11, 2001.
    Part of me thinks that was the whole reason it happened.
    I was balls deep in Libertarian movement that day.
    We were gaining popularity greatly. We were winning 5% for states.
    I was front lines, real lines, not internet lines. Face to face.
    Then Overton window shifted. Drug war? Who cares!? Mooslims! 9/11.
    Yay, now instead of drug war, America gets real war!
    I don't remember it that way, myself, but an interesting perspective.

    As I see it, the libertarian movement was more or less wandering in the wilderness from Rothbard till 2008.

    2008-2012 was the golden age.

    By 2014, a combination of inane in-fighting and effective neocon propaganda re the reasons for the rise of ISIS had popped the bubble.

    Then, summer 2015, FOX and other GOP regime media pushed the 'Mexicans r scary" narrative, got Trump elected, and the rest is history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
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    You may have noticed the sudden death of the libertarian movement around the time the TV character became popular.
    Went back to minding their own business?

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