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    Rand Endorses Gary Johnson

    It kind of surprised me.


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    It's interesting that he's endorsed candidates as varied as Roy Moore and Gary Johnson. I don't like Johnson but his vote in the senate will be better than the democrat on quite a few issues and the mainline Republican doesn't even have a chance in New Mexico. I still think Gary has had a very negative affect on the libertarian brand so to speak, if he wins there would be even more of that. His support of abortion and opposition to property rights would keep me from voting for him. I don't blame Rand for endorsing him, strategically the GOP ought to if they care about removing as many Democrats as possible.
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    He will be worse on a lot of things. If he eats elected, you can kiss civil liberties goodbye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    He will be worse on a lot of things. If he eats elected, you can kiss civil liberties goodbye.
    LOL...

    Sorry, but Gary Johnson is better on Civil Liberties as a whole than 98 or 99% of of the other Senators, despite your disagreement on the cake issue.
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    More like losertarian party
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    It’s not just the cake. Johnson said religious liberty is a black hole. He doesn’t see them as civil liberties at all, rather something for government to decide. He does not believe in he principle of inalienable rights. He believes in personal liberty according to his own personal priorities.

    I do not see him as a limited government guy. Government grew in NM under his administration. It’s probable. His defenders make a lot of excuses for that, but they do not have proof that Johnson didn’t make some choices to grow government according to his own priorities. There is no record of accomplishment there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    It’s not just the cake. Johnson said religious liberty is a black hole. He doesn’t see them as civil liberties at all, rather something for government to decide. He does not believe in he principle of inalienable rights. He believes in personal liberty according to his own personal priorities.

    I do not see him as a limited government guy. Government grew in NM under his administration. It’s probable. His defenders make a lot of excuses for that, but they do not have proof that Johnson didn’t make some choices to grow government according to his own priorities. There is no record of accomplishment there.
    ...but he is still better on Civil Liberties as a whole than 98 - 99% of the other Senators. So how would Civil Liberties get worse if he went in there? There is more to Civil Liberties than cake baking - we have the fourth amendment for example - and the war on drugs. He is quite good on Civil liberties compared to almost every other Senator, and much better than whoever else would be elected instead of him.

    It's just really weird how you figure that if somebody or some thing is not 100% libertarian, then a Democrat or a Republican would be better.

    If weed isn't 100% de-regulated by the government, then you figure it is better to make it completely illegal and put people in prison for having a joint in their pocket rather than decriminalizing and regulating some elements.

    That makes no sense.
    Last edited by dannno; 08-29-2018 at 02:22 PM.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    It's interesting that he's endorsed candidates as varied as Roy Moore and Gary Johnson. I don't like Johnson but his vote in the senate will be better than the democrat on quite a few issues and the mainline Republican doesn't even have a chance in New Mexico. I still think Gary has had a very negative affect on the libertarian brand so to speak, if he wins there would be even more of that. His support of abortion and opposition to property rights would keep me from voting for him. I don't blame Rand for endorsing him, strategically the GOP ought to if they care about removing as many Democrats as possible.

    Exactly what the GOP would be doing if their goal was to actually win. Dump the GOP nominee and fully back Johnson with his name recognition. At this point the GOP is probably cocky about the senate though. If this were a house race, I'd bet they'd seriously consider asking the GOP nominee to drop out and have the party support Johnson. They'll need every house seat they can get
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    Bumping this thread in honor of AF's $50.oo check! (Blimp)

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    Quote Originally Posted by minoza View Post
    It's very interesting that he's endorsed candidates as varied as Roy Moore and Gary Johnson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    A revolution needs a big tent,
    Indeed. And this further shows that Randal doesn't hold a grudge given the not so nice things GJ has said about him in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    A revolution needs a big tent
    Ron Paul understood that, he even brought in a couple people from the Green Party one time to endorse over Obama and McCain.

    Rev 3 thinks there should only be 8 libertarians in the whole world, I guess so they can be king or something.
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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ron Paul understood that, he even brought in a couple people from the Green Party one time to endorse over Obama and McCain.

    Rev 3 thinks there should only be 8 libertarians in the whole world, I guess so they can be king or something.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    It’s me guys, I’m the one true libertarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    It’s me guys, I’m the one true libertarian.
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