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    The NM Supreme Court case regarding the straight-ticket ballots will be opened tomorrow.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    The NM Supreme Court case regarding the straight-ticket ballots will be opened tomorrow.
    NM Supreme Court halts bid to bring back straight party voting
    https://www.abqjournal.com/1219902/n...ty-voting.html
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    Not going to happen.
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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    NM Supreme Court halts bid to bring back straight party voting
    https://www.abqjournal.com/1219902/n...ty-voting.html
    It is the right decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    NM Supreme Court halts bid to bring back straight party voting
    https://www.abqjournal.com/1219902/n...ty-voting.html
    I mean the Lege has banned it right??? Edit article says they didn't actually, I've seen conflicting reports. Either way they set the rules.
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    Lux Research's poll also shows big numbers for Gary: in a two-way race, 42% of those polled say they'd vote for Johnson, vs. Heinrich (D) at 40%.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    Lux Research's poll also shows big numbers for Gary: in a two-way race, 42% of those polled say they'd vote for Johnson, vs. Heinrich (D) at 40%.
    Rand needs to get Trump to call for the R to drop out.
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  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Rand needs to get Trump to call for the R to drop out.
    Only after Gary explains what is a leppo.

  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Only after Gary explains what is a leppo.
    Even if he thinks it is something to smoke he will be better than the Demoncrat.

    The Economist plugging him isn't a good sign though.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Even if he thinks it is something to smoke he will be better than the Demoncrat.

    The Economist plugging him isn't a good sign though.
    I wouldn't call that a plug.

  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    I'm not discounting the poll. I'm saying it's a single poll. Which it is. The fact that it's a single poll should be pretty obvious. Stating that it's a single poll shouldn't be controversial. Why do you have a problem with me stating that it's a single poll? It is. Poll numbers will go up or down. If a LP candidate has $100,000 available for campaign spending, it's possible that those poll numbers will continue to climb. Are you saying it's not possible?



    Well, clearly you have calculated the odds, and understand math better than others here, so I'll leave you to your calculations. I will continue to believe that a well-known and well-funded candidate polling at 21% in a three-party run months before the election has a chance, and you can continue to believe that he does not.
    I totally agree that it's a single poll. And that's why its significance shouldn't be blown up into leading anyone to think it means GJ has a serious chance of winning.

    Knowing this doesn't require that I know more about math than very many people. The great majority here know that GJ doesn't have a serious chance, and know that this poll, even with with GJ's dubiously good showing in it, doesn't suggest that he does.

    Incidentally, here's a more recent poll where he's now in a distant third with 16%.
    https://reason.com/blog/2018/09/17/g...stant-third-in

    We who have seen versions of this story played out time and again with third party candidates know what to expect. On election day, he may well have a very good showing for a third party candidate. But it will be in the ballpark of half of what earlier polls predicted. When people are taking pre-election polls that they know don't really matter, they're a lot more willing to take a stand they see as radical in support of a third party than they are in the actual election.

  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    I totally agree that it's a single poll. And that's why its significance shouldn't be blown up into leading anyone to think it means GJ has a serious chance of winning.
    PLEASE stop.

    I thought I made it very clear with my message, "I'll leave you to your calculations. I will continue to believe that a well-known and well-funded candidate polling at 21% in a three-party run months before the election has a chance, and you can continue to believe that he does not." that I was hoping to end this conversation with you. I was hoping you would understand that I was not interested in further bizarre conversations with you, where you made up numbers out of your head, such as "1 in 1,000,000 chance".

    Please do not respond to this message. Please do not continue to reply to me tell me how wrong I am. I already know it was very, very wrong of me to state that Gary Johnson had "a chance" with a big poll number. Clearly, he has no chance, and you will continue to make sure I am aware of that.

    Although I registered years late, I recall a time when there was room for positive discussion of liberty-minded candidates at RPF. Clearly, that time has passed. I very much regret that I said he had a chance. It's very clear that he has no chance.

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    PLEASE stop.

    I thought I made it very clear with my message, "I'll leave you to your calculations. I will continue to believe that a well-known and well-funded candidate polling at 21% in a three-party run months before the election has a chance, and you can continue to believe that he does not." that I was hoping to end this conversation with you. I was hoping you would understand that I was not interested in further bizarre conversations with you, where you made up numbers out of your head, such as "1 in 1,000,000 chance".

    Please do not respond to this message. Please do not continue to reply to me tell me how wrong I am. I already know it was very, very wrong of me to state that Gary Johnson had "a chance" with a big poll number. Clearly, he has no chance, and you will continue to make sure I am aware of that.

    Although I registered years late, I recall a time when there was room for positive discussion of liberty-minded candidates at RPF. Clearly, that time has passed. I very much regret that I said he had a chance. It's very clear that he has no chance.
    Don't let the trolls get you down, he has a chance.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  16. #104
    Gary has apparently gained ground on the Democratic and Republican challengers, in the latest Lux poll (taken September 16th and 17th):
    Heinrich (D): 38%
    Johnson (L): 28%
    Rich (R): 10%
    Undecided: 24%



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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    Gary has apparently gained ground on the Democratic and Republican challengers, in the latest Lux poll (taken September 16th and 17th):
    Heinrich (D): 38%
    Johnson (L): 28%
    Rich (R): 10%
    Undecided: 24%
    I wonder how much George Soros & The Clinton Foundation are paying this Rich spoiler?
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  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    I wonder how much George Soros & The Clinton Foundation are paying this Rich spoiler?
    Dunno, but it's mostly the Republicans who are calling for Gary to drop out.

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