5.1 mil. Americans have security clearances. That’s more than the entire population of Norway

[timosman]

Are you saying the WaPo screwed up the numbers statistically speaking?
Why pull in poor Norway? We have MORE people with security clearances
than actually live in Rhode Island and if SPACE FORCE expands the number
who actually have top secret or better clearances, then we will have a big
number equal to the good folks who live in the state of Massachusetts now.

Are you trying to counter the main argument of USA having too many people with clearances?

[Aratus]

Are you trying to counter the main argument of USA having too many people with clearances?

I do want to say that MANY of the 5.1 million good folks are overplayed,
But that cyberwarfare by its very nature requires a security clearance by
gals and guys who must wage it. You might have 10 million young folks
being paid minimum wage in the future to wage it effectively. Just sayin'

[Aratus]

Quality verses Quantity. Wheat from chaff.

[Swordsmyth]

I do want to say that MANY of the 5.1 million good folks are overplayed,
But that cyberwarfare by its very nature requires a security clearance by
gals and guys who must wage it. You might have 10 million young folks
being paid minimum wage in the future to wage it effectively. Just sayin'

So you are telling us that Trolls get security clearances?

[Swordsmyth]

security clearances are generally for life.

That needs to change, you should not have one.

[timosman]

So you are telling us that Trolls get security clearances?

How exactly does the cyber warfare look like? Zippy posting on RPF?

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...nce/102549298/

Security clearances aren’t that rare, according to an October report by the non-partisan Congressional Research Service.

The government trusted about 4.3 million people with various levels of security clearance as of October 2015, according to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. These included nearly 2.9 million people at the “confidential” or “secret” level and nearly 1.4 million at the “top secret” level.

Even at the lowest level – confidential clearance – unauthorized disclosure of the information would “cause damage to the national security.” A secret clearance means disclosure would cause "serious damage.”

And top secret means disclosure would cause "exceptionally grave damage.”

In general, security clearances are granted only to citizens whose work requires access to classified materials. The background check must confirm the worker is trustworthy, honest, reliable and is free from conflicting allegiances or the potential for coercion, according to the CRS report.

Even if an employee gets security clearance, it isn’t a guaranteed ticket to see secret documents. Federal workers or private contractors are granted clearances after their agency conducts a background investigation.

"Only those persons who have a bona fide need-to-know and who possess a personnel security clearance at the same or higher level as the classified information to be disclosed may have access to classified information," according to Pentagon statement on clearances.

Security clearances aren’t mandated for the president, vice president, members of Congress, Supreme Court justices or other constitutional officers.

Security clearances don't expire, particularly if a worker continues to deal with secret information. The Pentagon typically conducts a renewal investigation of people with top-secret clearances every five years, for secret every 10 years, and for confidential every 15 years.

"Generally speaking, a personnel security clearance remains in effect as long as the individual remains continuously employed by the cleared contractor and can reasonably be expected to require access to classified information." according to a Pentagon statement on clearances. "To preclude excessive clearances, the Facility Security Officer should continually review the number of employees with the personnel security clearances and reduce the number of clearances whenever possible."

The Senate approved a bill last year from Democratic Sens. Claire McCaskill of Missouri and Jon Tester of Montana that sought to improve the quality of background checks and directed the president to review which positions and contracts require a security clearance at least every five years.

[Swordsmyth]

How exactly does the cyber warfare look like? Zippy posting on RPF?

There are foul-ups in every army.

[timosman]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...nce/102549298/

Doesn't the government have way too many secrets?

[brushfire]

Declassify everything and watch the $#@! hit the fan...

Thread win!

Knowledge is power, and they want it all to themselves. I say there should be an aggressive expiration on any classified information.

It should be aggressive enough so that an acting administration can still be held accountable.

These democracy whores cant have it both ways - how is one supposed to make decisions if they cannot be informed?

[oyarde]

Well of course I have one . I am not using it anymore .

[Danke]

Well of course I have had one . I am not using it anymore, because I can't .

FTFY

[Swordsmyth]

Well of course I have one.

Injuns with security clearances are a danger to national security.

I am not using it anymore .

We are to believe you when you say that?
What are you really up to?

[Swordsmyth]

FTFY

You would seek to distract us from your own possession of a security clearance, what are you up to behind our backs?
Are you colluding with the Injuns? Is that why you wish us to believe he can't use his security clearance? Is Russia involved?

[oyarde]

It is kind of like my Holiday Inn Priority Account . I still have that and a Lowes card but I do not use them anymore ........ I have not pd my dues at the Legion and VFW in years but if I buy a beer they still accept my money ......

[Brian4Liberty]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...nce/102549298/

Cute, but contradictory. USA Today. LOL.

Security clearances don't expire, particularly if a worker continues to deal with secret information. The Pentagon typically conducts a renewal investigation of people with top-secret clearances every five years, for secret every 10 years, and for confidential every 15 years.

If a person leaves a position, a renewal would not occur. And it will become inactive when exiting.

[oyarde]

Injuns with security clearances are a danger to national security.



We are to believe you when you say that?
What are you really up to?

On my dog tags it just said Lutheran . They probably had no idea .

[Swordsmyth]

On my dog tags it just said Lutheran . They probably had no idea .

Typical Injun trickery.

[oyarde]

Am I the only one who finds it a little disturbing anyone actually knows what the population of norway is ?

[Swordsmyth]

Am I the only one who finds it a little disturbing anyone actually knows what the population of norway is ?

I would assume that the government of Norway tries to keep track of the number and that they publish it somewhere that the author looked up while trying to find something to compare to.

What disturbs you about it?

[Aratus]

If SPACE FORCE becomes SIXTH branch of the armed services,
6.66+ million people will need security clearances, even if all be at
minimum wage, and good folks are farmed out to TRUMP INc!!!

Top Secret clearances = number of people who live in Rhode Island

[oyarde]

I would assume that the government of Norway tries to keep track of the number and that they publish it somewhere that the author looked up while trying to find something to compare to.

What disturbs you about it?

I am worried they could be trying to unload norwegians here . Nobody wants them. Everyone knows they are secretly weirdo socialists .

[Aratus]

[Aratus]

Somebody has to interpret IKEA for the good folks who buy furniture. Don't dump on Norwegians!

[Swordsmyth]

I am worried they could be trying to unload norwegians here . Nobody wants them. Everyone knows they are secretly weirdo socialists .

That is a problem but the best way to deal with it is to keep track of how many Norwegians there are so we know if they are sneaking out of Norway.

[timosman]

[Brian4Liberty]

Phil Mudd is angrily stating that he makes no money based upon his security clearance as he is gettting paid for exactly that by and on CNN. Guess nobody can make that connection.

And the problem that exists is that CNN has hired him because they know that he has access to current government employees, who can feed him classified information with no fear of violating security protocols. The only thing that might prevent it is the vague “need to know” standard, which would never be applied to him. This is one of the ways that leaks occur.

Additionally, CNN and Mudd are pushing this narrative that it’s necessary for Mudd to consult with his former employer constantly and on demand. Really? Is that how it works? Everyone should be required to consult with their former employers for free and on demand? Or does that only work if government is the former employer?