LA Subway Becomes First In Nation To Deploy Portable Body Scanners

[Swordsmyth]

The Los Angeles subway will become the first mass transit system in the nation to deploy portable body scanners to screen passengers for explosives and weapons, officials announced on Tuesday.

The scanners, made by UK screening company ThruVision, are able to screen passengers walking through the station without slowing them down and will be deployed over the next few months according to Alex Wiggins, head of the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation's law enforcement division.

“We’re looking specifically for weapons that have the ability to cause a mass-casualty event,” Wiggins said. “We’re looking for explosive vests, we’re looking for assault rifles. We’re not necessarily looking for smaller weapons that don’t have the ability to inflict mass casualties.”

The machines scan for metallic and non-metallic objects on a person’s body, can detect suspicious items from 30 feet (9 meters) away and have the capability of scanning more than 2,000 passengers per hour. -AP

“We’re dealing with persistent threats to our transportation systems in our country,” said TSA Administrator David Pekoske. “Our job is to ensure security in the transportation systems so that a terrorist incident does not happen on our watch."
And before you worry about your kibbles and bits getting scanned into some secret database, rest assured that ThruVision's technology is "safe and respectful," which their website describes as "Completely safe, with no anatomical detail revealed and physical ‘pat-downs’ no longer needed."

Thruvision is a proven people-screening camera able to detect any type of object hidden under clothing. Based on patented, passive terahertz technology, Thruvision provides safe and respectful real-time imagery of items concealed in travelers’ clothing, allowing law enforcement agents to take decisive, pre-emptive action if suspicious items are seen. -ThruVision

The technology is reportedly passive, meaning it doesn't shoot beams of radiation through one's body.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...-body-scanners

[Bern]

Pretty interesting:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tera...ive_evaluation

[VIDEODROME]

This looks amazing

[Swordsmyth]

This looks amazing

For a 4th Amendment violation.

[Danke]

I will not eat at Subway ever again.

[VIDEODROME]

For a 4th Amendment violation.

Does choice factor in? You don't have to take the Subway. You could just decide to drive.

Also, at a glance on Google, this Subway seems to be a Public/Private partnership. If someone is entering a Private Subway train, does the owner of the train have a right to secure it as long as people are aware of it upfront? They can just decline and sit in traffic?

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Wow, it must be worth it to scan the two people each day who actually use the LA subway...

[Swordsmyth]

Does choice factor in? You don't have to take the Subway. You could just decide to drive.

Also, at a glance on Google, this Subway seems to be a Public/Private partnership. If someone is entering a Private Subway train, does the owner of the train have a right to secure it as long as people are aware of it upfront? They can just decline and sit in traffic?

It is an unreasonable warrantless search by a government entity, the private part of the partnership doesn't change that, the private partner becomes a government contractor through the partnership.
As a government service the subway must serve all citizens without violating their rights.


(Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure)

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[nikcers]

Does choice factor in? You don't have to take the Subway. You could just decide to drive.

Also, at a glance on Google, this Subway seems to be a Public/Private partnership. If someone is entering a Private Subway train, does the owner of the train have a right to secure it as long as people are aware of it upfront? They can just decline and sit in traffic?

Those who sacrifice privacy for security will not sit in traffic.

[devil21]

They always tell us what's coming...

[Mach]

Cop cars are next... Drive-n-Scan.

[VIDEODROME]

It is an unreasonable warrantless search by a government entity, the private part of the partnership doesn't change that, the private partner becomes a government contractor through the partnership.
As a government service the subway must serve all citizens without violating their rights.


(Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure)

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Is there such a thing as a reasonable search?

I see this as comparable to the old airport methods of using X-Ray conveyor belts or Metal Detection, except this might be even faster and hopefully more accurate. Should the 4th Amendment block those methods as well?

[tod evans]

Just say "No" to cities....

[TheTexan]

“We’re looking specifically for weapons that have the ability to cause a mass-casualty event,” Wiggins said. “We’re looking for explosive vests, we’re looking for assault rifles.

This technology is so cool! Now there's no way anyone is sneaking past the security line with an assault rifle

[timosman]

This technology is so cool! Now there's no way anyone is sneaking past the security line with an assault rifle

Or a tank.

[shakey1]

... just the beginning.

[Bern]

So I went searching to see if the ACLU had published anything regarding these scanners and I couldn't find anything on their website, but I did find some news reports about New York City planning to implement terahertz scanners on the streets of NYC circa 2012/2013 and the New York chapter of the ACLU sent statements to some media outlets "raising privacy concerns" and "having questions". But, I did not see any follow up reports anywhere. No idea if the scanners were ever implemented or if the NYC ACLU ever issued any definitive statements after such rollout.

Example: https://mashable.com/2013/01/24/nypd...identify-guns/

[Swordsmyth]

Is there such a thing as a reasonable search?

Yes one with probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation.

I see this as comparable to the old airport methods of using X-Ray conveyor belts or Metal Detection, except this might be even faster and hopefully more accurate. Should the 4th Amendment block those methods as well?

It should, but even if you allowed luggage scanning it is clearly over the line to scan the people.

[devil21]

So I went searching to see if the ACLU had published anything regarding these scanners and I couldn't find anything on their website, but I did find some news reports about New York City planning to implement terahertz scanners on the streets of NYC circa 2012/2013 and the New York chapter of the ACLU sent statements to some media outlets "raising privacy concerns" and "having questions". But, I did not see any follow up reports anywhere. No idea if the scanners were ever implemented or if the NYC ACLU ever issued any definitive statements after such rollout.

Example: https://mashable.com/2013/01/24/nypd...identify-guns/

The ACLU has the uncanny knack for showing up to complain after the implementation of privacy-killing laws and technology is deployed. They're never there to do things like file injunctions and/or restraining orders before it's enacted, even though most of it is public available information. They always show up after....when there's no chance of it being rolled back.

It's almost like the ACLU is controlled opposition. Things that make ya go hmmm....

[Swordsmyth]

The ACLU has the uncanny knack for showing up to complain after the implementation of privacy-killing laws and technology is deployed. They're never there to do things like file injunctions and/or restraining orders before it's enacted, even though most of it is public available information. They always show up after....when there's no chance of it being rolled back.

It's almost like the ACLU is controlled opposition. Things that make ya go hmmm....

American
Communist
Lawyers
Union

The ACLU’s chief founders were communists and communist sympathizers, including top Communist Party officials William Z. Foster, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, and Louis Budenz. Roger N. Baldwin, another of the co-founders (and the ACLU’s executive director from 1920-1950) may not have been an official card-carrying CPUSA member, but he was a willing collaborator. He wrote:


I am for socialism.... I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.... I don’t regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United Front road to get it.


Despite utilizing more moderate rhetoric than many of their earlier Bolsheviki forebears, the NLG and the ACLU have not swerved from their leftward course. Neither have they deviated from Comintern plan for exploiting immigration and migration issues to batter down our borders and transform the United States into a mere cog in a global socialist system. But don’t expect any of the fake journalists of the Fake News organizations to mention any of this.

More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-ice-agitation

[devil21]

The ACLU's executive team looks like more of the usual suspects so that's a dead giveaway that they're not interested in stopping anything from being implemented, just collecting donations to spend on lavish conventions and big salaries while putting up fake resistance.

[Mach]

Random radiation.