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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    I don't know. Seems like most of America is full of nationalist police state loving Federalists such as yourself. Your delusion is fairly common. Though it would probably be more accurately called brainwashing, but if you cared about facts you wouldn't love the jackboots and hate free market capitalism.
    @PierzStyx

    We get rid of the jackboots and restore free market capitalistism by importing millions of people who want jackboots and hate free market capitalism?

    Please explain how that works...I'll wait.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I think we can see the problem:

    "Auckland boasts more boats per capita than anywhere else in the world."
    There's a problem?



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    @PierzStyx

    We get rid of the jackboots and restore free market capitalistism by importing millions of people who want jackboots and hate free market capitalism?

    Please explain how that works...I'll wait.
    The 50% unemployment rate among refugees and the constantly setting things on fire and raping people and the No-Go zones in Sweden are freedom. Hey if the state uses violence, why shouldn't these freedom seekers who are just exercising free movement be able to use violence, amirite? The real problem are the people who want to limit the wrong kind of immigrants, not the rapists. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN1JM0QQ

    91% of Middle East refugees are on food stamps. That's free market capitalism. Just like Murray Rothbard always said Free $#@! or Die.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    True but governments will always exist in some form everywhere. Therefore the best thing to do is try to keep them small.
    You cannot give any organization the ability to beat, cage, and kill others and steal their belongings and call it "small" or "limited." No government has remained small.
    ďMaybe I forgot to mention something to you: I donít believe in queens. You think freedom is something you can give and take on a whim. But to your people, freedom is as essential as air. And without it, there is no life. There is only darkness.Ē -Zaheer

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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Freedom can't exist without cooperation and defense against outsiders who do not believe in it.
    And calling your mass militaristic police state "freedom" is delusional and stupid.
    ďMaybe I forgot to mention something to you: I donít believe in queens. You think freedom is something you can give and take on a whim. But to your people, freedom is as essential as air. And without it, there is no life. There is only darkness.Ē -Zaheer

    "A man chooses. A slave obeys."-Andrew Ryan

    "There are three things the parasite hates: free markets, free will, and free men."-Andrew Ryan

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    And calling your mass militaristic police state "freedom" is delusional and stupid.
    I do not.

    I want to get rid of it.

    Importing millions more people who want it, does not make my job easier.

    Why is this so hard to understand?

    It's easy to understand watching it happen internally, as Texas gets Californicated.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    @PierzStyx

    We get rid of the jackboots and restore free market capitalistism by importing millions of people who want jackboots and hate free market capitalism?

    Please explain how that works...I'll wait.
    How can I explain your delusion?

    You've yet to explain how creating a militaristic police state capable of spying on and tracking the movements of hundreds of millions of people, and beating, caging, and killing people for a nonviolent misdemeanor "crime" is "freedom." Or how violent regulation of the free exchange of goods and services across borders and the forced impoverishment of people on both sides is a "free" market.

    For all your ooga booga fearmongering of the suuuuper scary Mexicans, the only person trying to actively threaten the lives and freedom of every American citizen is you. You and your fellow jackboot licking police state thugs are far more dangerous than any foreigner because you're the only one actively destroying the rights of freedom of the people. Just like a good little Federalist. Hamilton would've loved you.
    ďMaybe I forgot to mention something to you: I donít believe in queens. You think freedom is something you can give and take on a whim. But to your people, freedom is as essential as air. And without it, there is no life. There is only darkness.Ē -Zaheer

    "A man chooses. A slave obeys."-Andrew Ryan

    "There are three things the parasite hates: free markets, free will, and free men."-Andrew Ryan

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I do not.

    I want to get rid of it.
    Bull$#@!.

    How do you think you are going to attack 11 million people and deprive them of their lives, liberty, and property without your roving bands of jackboots? How are you going to know who is and isn't an immigrant without national registration, tracing, and monitoring? How are you going to violate the property, association, and exchange rights of all 325 million Americans without using militaristic police violence to enforce your rule? How are you going to militarize the border and pay for your $25 billion+ in upfront costs and billions more in endless costs without the violence and theft of taxation? Or how you are going to prevent the free exchange of goods and services across borders without extortion, theft, and police state monitoring of said exchanges and the use of violence against those who don't follow your edicts? All of these things, and everything else required to bring about your vision, require a giant, expansive militaristic police state to force your will upon the masses.

    You're just another jackboot Progressive who wants to pretend somehow violating the Life, Liberty, and Property of millions of people and violating the US Constitution is warranted because it will create your perfect utopia. You're deluded and you either ignore or don't care about the real cost in liberty and blood that your policies require to force upon the millions of peaceful people who want nothing to do with them.

    Nationalist thugs like you are a scarier problem than any imaginary threat from abroad.
    Last edited by PierzStyx; 08-17-2018 at 12:27 PM.
    ďMaybe I forgot to mention something to you: I donít believe in queens. You think freedom is something you can give and take on a whim. But to your people, freedom is as essential as air. And without it, there is no life. There is only darkness.Ē -Zaheer

    "A man chooses. A slave obeys."-Andrew Ryan

    "There are three things the parasite hates: free markets, free will, and free men."-Andrew Ryan

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Nationalist thugs like you are a scarier problem than any imaginary threat from abroad.
    Ya, see, that's your problem, you want a bunch of commies to come into our country and you despise people who actually want freedom and are willing to ensure that they have it. And you don't even know it. Because you won't look at the data.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ya, see, that's your problem, you want a bunch of commies to come into our country and you despise people who actually want freedom and are willing to ensure that they have it. And you don't even know it. Because you won't look at the data.
    I've looked at plenty of data. It supports my stance. But the "data" is irrelevant. Your threat of commies is imaginary. Your solution -full throated Fascism- is very real. You want to fight the possibility of communism with the actuality of National Socialism and then tell be that is "freedom."

    I'm sorry. But I don't buy the line of militaristic police state bull$#@! you're serving.
    ďMaybe I forgot to mention something to you: I donít believe in queens. You think freedom is something you can give and take on a whim. But to your people, freedom is as essential as air. And without it, there is no life. There is only darkness.Ē -Zaheer

    "A man chooses. A slave obeys."-Andrew Ryan

    "There are three things the parasite hates: free markets, free will, and free men."-Andrew Ryan



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  14. #41
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    You cannot give any organization the ability to beat, cage, and kill others and steal their belongings and call it "small" or "limited." No government has remained small.
    On the contrary, even if we accept your twisted definition of properly administered government as no different in principle than tyranny there is a huge variation in size and scope possible, anarchy is not possible so arranging to keep the inevitable government and the small end of the spectrum is the best possible option.

    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    And calling your mass militaristic police state "freedom" is delusional and stupid.
    If that is what I wanted you would be correct but that description is totally inaccurate when applied to the minarchy I desire.
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I do not.

    I want to get rid of it.

    Importing millions more people who want it, does not make my job easier.

    Why is this so hard to understand?

    It's easy to understand watching it happen internally, as Texas gets Californicated.
    Pierz is either insane or a crypto-communist who is seeking to use twisted libertarian principles to turn America into a communist state through a massive barbarian invasion, he will never address the point you are making because he can't without admitting his insanity or maliciousness.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Bull$#@!.

    How do you think you are going to attack 11 million people and deprive them of their lives, liberty, and property without your roving bands of jackboots? How are you going to know who is and isn't an immigrant without national registration, tracing, and monitoring? How are you going to violate the property, association, and exchange rights of all 325 million Americans without using militaristic police violence to enforce your rule? How are you going to militarize the border and pay for your $25 billion+ in upfront costs and billions more in endless costs without the violence and theft of taxation? Or how you are going to prevent the free exchange of goods and services across borders without extortion, theft, and police state monitoring of said exchanges and the use of violence against those who don't follow your edicts? All of these things, and everything else required to bring about your vision, require a giant, expansive militaristic police state to force your will upon the masses.
    It can and has been done without the tyranny you blather about, sensible moderate measures will cause the invaders to leave on their own or not come in the first place, at the very least keeping more from coming in can easily be done cheaply.

    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    You're just another jackboot Progressive who wants to pretend somehow violating the Life, Liberty, and Property of millions of people and violating the US Constitution is warranted because it will create your perfect utopia. You're deluded and you either ignore or don't care about the real cost in liberty and blood that your policies require to force upon the millions of peaceful people who want nothing to do with them.


    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Nationalist thugs like you are a scarier problem than any imaginary threat from abroad.
    The threat from abroad is not imaginary, if you don't like us you should be scared stiff of the society that the invaders will create but you are either insane or a communist who wants the invaders to turn us into Venezuela, in my opinion you are probably both.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    I've looked at plenty of data. It supports my stance. But the "data" is irrelevant. Your threat of commies is imaginary. Your solution -full throated Fascism- is very real. You want to fight the possibility of communism with the actuality of National Socialism and then tell be that is "freedom."

    I'm sorry. But I don't buy the line of militaristic police state bull$#@! you're serving.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  19. #46
    https://www.creators.com/read/thomas...-controversies
    Quote Originally Posted by FASCIST NAZI THOMAS SOWELL
    These immigrants were usually well-educated, and often had higher labor force participation rates and lower unemployment rates than the native Swedes. That all began to change as the growing number of immigrants came increasingly from the Middle East, with Iraqis becoming the largest immigrant group in Sweden.
    This changing trend was accompanied by a sharply increased use of the government's "social assistance" program, from 6 percent in the pre-1976 era to 41 percent in the 1996-1999 period.
    But, even in this later period, fewer than 7 percent of the immigrants from Scandinavia and Western Europe used "social assistance," while 44 percent of the immigrants from the Middle East used that welfare state benefit.
    Immigrants, who were by this time 16 percent of Sweden's population, had become 51 percent of the long-term unemployed and 57 percent of the people receiving welfare payments. The proportion of foreigners in prison was 5 times their proportion in the population of the country.



    The point of all this is that there is no such thing as immigrants in general, whether in Europe or America. Yet all too many of the intelligentsia in the media and in academia talk as if immigrants were abstract people in an abstract world, to whom we could apply abstract principles — such as "we are all descendants of immigrants."

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Becker Communist NAZI PROGRESSIVE HITLER FASCIST
    Since I am a free-trader, readers might expect my preferred alternative to the present system to be 19th century-style unlimited immigration. I would support that if we lived in the 19th century world where government spending was tiny. But governments now spend huge amounts on medical care, retirement, education, and other benefits and entitlements. Experience demonstrates that in our political system, it is impossible to prevent immigrants, even those here illegally, to gain access to these benefits. I believe that with unlimited immigration, many would come mainly because they are attracted by these government benefits, and they would then be voting to influence future government spending and other public policies. Given these realities of free immigration, the best alternative to the present quota system is an ancient way of allocating a scarce and popular good; namely, by charging a price that clears the market.

    This would help quiet anti-immigration rhetoric as it induces countries to take more immigrants. In addition, since anyone willing to pay the entry price could then legally immigrate, this approach should also cut down the number who enter illegally. Still, some persons will continue to try, especially if they want to avoid paying the fee, or only want to work for a short time in the United States. However, border and other immigration personnel would become more efficient in combating illegal entrants since they would have to deal with smaller numbers. It should become easier also to expel and even punish illegal entrants because they would get less sympathy from the American public than under the present system. After all, they usually could have entered legally, but tried to chisel out of paying. In summary, charging a fee to immigrate would raise tax revenue, increase the number of immigrants accepted, and also raise the quality of those accepted. It is a win-win situation for countries accepting immigrants, and for the vast majority of persons who would like to immigrate.
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    Last edited by Krugminator2; 08-17-2018 at 05:20 PM.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Nationalist thugs like you are a scarier problem than any imaginary threat from abroad.
    I don't want your money, property, liberty.

    Millions of migrants do...and I'm the threat.

    So, meh, whatever...So I'm a bigoted, racist, nationalist (even though I mentioned nothing about race and would be just as opposed if it were lily white Euro commies invading)...whatever.

    Don't really care very much what you have to say or what you think about it.

    Nothing new under the sun...somebody had to open the gates of Rome to the barbarians.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pierz is either insane or a crypto-communist who is seeking to use twisted libertarian principles to turn America into a communist state through a massive barbarian invasion, he will never address the point you are making because he can't without admitting his insanity or maliciousness.
    An anarcho communist maybe...I dunno.

    It really is laughable when you think about it: I have posted so many examples of police abuse that the site's moderators made a whole sub forum to post stuff in about police abuse because it was making people "uncomfortable".

    I've chipped in to bail people out of jail who were wrongfully accused.

    I pay good money in dues to support The Innocence Project and Institute for Justice.

    But I'm boot licking copsucker.

    LOL...$#@!ing guy's a maroon...$#@! him.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    An anarcho communist maybe...I dunno.

    It really is laughable when you think about it: I have posted so many examples of police abuse that the site's moderators made a whole sub forum to post stuff in about police abuse because it was making people "uncomfortable".

    I've chipped in to bail people out of jail who were wrongfully accused.

    I pay good money in dues to support The Innocence Project and Institute for Justice.

    But I'm boot licking copsucker.

    LOL...$#@!ing guy's a maroon...$#@! him.
    I think I have found a real picture of him:

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  24. #50
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    An anarcho communist maybe...I dunno.

    It really is laughable when you think about it: I have posted so many examples of police abuse that the site's moderators made a whole sub forum to post stuff in about police abuse because it was making people "uncomfortable".

    I've chipped in to bail people out of jail who were wrongfully accused.

    I pay good money in dues to support The Innocence Project and Institute for Justice.

    But I'm boot licking copsucker.

    LOL...$#@!ing guy's a maroon...$#@! him.
    Even Ron Paul sees the problem. Yes he is not for closed borders, but he knows as long as they are open under our current system, we all pay for them with taxation, that he views as theft.

    So the solution, build a double fence, relatively cheep with cameras and border guards (that we already have).

    Until we have a true free market and eliminate benefits not paid for, this will save taxpayers billions a year.
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    There's a problem?
    More boats, more pirates and more h.omo sailors.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Drudge is a traitor to the Leader and the Revolution.



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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    You cannot give any organization the ability to beat, cage, and kill others and steal their belongings and call it "small" or "limited." No government has remained small.
    You're missing the point. You don't have to "give" governments that ability. That ability exists by default for anyone with superior force.
    Last edited by Madison320; 08-20-2018 at 08:32 AM.

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