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    Racial and sexual diversity can peacefully exist without issue.

    Went to Foxwoods casino the other day. Played Texas Holdem for hours and watched my son play for several more hours. One thing I noticed was the diversity at the poker table. Every person sitting at any table was respected and there did not seem to be any tension. The diversity at the tables were unmistakable. Black, Asian, White, Middle Eastern, Latino, men, women, gay, straight. None of those things affected the play at any table. Every person got along and treated each other with respect.

    What this told me was the problem is not diversity or race. When people play by established rules and with their own money there are no issues.



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    When people play by established rules
    What rules, established by whom?

    That's when the trouble starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What rules, established by whom?

    That's when the trouble starts.
    The rules of poker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What rules, established by whom?

    That's when the trouble starts.
    Doesn't matter as long as everybody plays by the same rules. The problems start when different rules are applied to different parties just because.

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    Because it's in everyone's best interest to get along. The reward (winning) is more important than petty differences or starting $#@! that will get you thrown out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The rules of poker.
    And when it's determined that the rules of poker "make" the "x" person lose more often and must be changed to accommodate that...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And when it's determined that the rules of poker "make" the "x" person lose more often and must be changed to accommodate that...?
    There were hundreds of tables and thousands of players. Some playing for small stakes and some for extremely high stakes. No issues in the poker room.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And when it's determined that the rules of poker "make" the "x" person lose more often and must be changed to accommodate that...?
    It's called "tough luck" at the poker table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcgame View Post
    I gave you +rep.

    I wish I could give you double mega +rep.
    This is just an anecdotal story that may or may not jive with reality. I bet AuH2O can come up with a half dozen experiences from his personal life where the races aren't getting along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What rules, established by whom?

    That's when the trouble starts.
    Are there rules on the open sea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Are there rules on the open sea?
    Absolutely.

    Established by un-elected, un-representative bureaucratic boards formed by foreign interests that regulate commerce and seagoing transportation within the US.

    They are costly, unwieldy, unproductive and I comply under duress and in protest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Because it's in everyone's best interest to get along. The reward (winning) is more important than petty differences or starting $#@! that will get you thrown out.
    I would argue it's because each player is an individual entity and seen that way by everyone else. If there was a group mentality behind each hand, you can bet the perception would be much different.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I would argue it's because each player is an individual entity and seen that way by everyone else. If there was a group mentality behind each hand, you can bet the perception would be much different.
    Absolutely.

    And it helps that there aren't third parties in there stirring $#@! trying to keep people at each other's throats.

    There are many reasons why very different people can get along and money is big motivator. For example, I don't have to like you to take your money but as long as you're paying, I'm gonna make every effort to get along with ya.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Absolutely.

    And it helps that there aren't third parties in there stirring $#@! trying to keep people at each other's throats.

    There are many reasons why very different people can get along and money is big motivator. For example, I don't have to like you to take your money but as long as you're paying, I'm gonna make every effort to get along with ya.
    Obviously, someone needs to inform all of the people playing that the white guy has an unfair advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Obviously, someone needs to inform all of the people playing that the white guy has an unfair advantage.
    Which is why I don't want to play poker with all that riff raff anyways.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Because it's in everyone's best interest to get along. The reward (winning) is more important than petty differences or starting $#@! that will get you thrown out.
    The thing I don't understand, if winning is so important to people, why do more people not support Trump?
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The thing I don't understand, if winning is so important to people, why do more people not support Trump?
    Trump said he's was going to win so much that his supporters would get tired of winning. I guess the poker players didn't want to get tired of winning.

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    Isn't the takeaway here such that it is possible for people of all walks of life can get along... but the political climate in the US & much of the world make it difficult, if not impossible?

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Isn't the takeaway here such that it is possible for people of all walks of life can get along... but the political climate in the US & much of the world make it difficult, if not impossible?
    That is the reality most of the time until the media and Marxists rile everybody up and promote hate.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    But in poker players you have a group that has chosen to accept risks and uneven outcomes, the general population is not so inclined, they not only resent the variation of outcomes caused by random factors but also the variation cause by differing levels of competence.
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    You must play poker with 2 Baptists, 1-Feminist and a true Fascist or a devout Muslim or The House will be subject to a discrimination suit that could break the bank...

    There will be token minorities available for your next game...

    Thanks Fed-Gov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    You must play poker with 2 Baptists, 1-Feminist and a true Fascist or a devout Muslim or The House will be subject to a discrimination suit that could break the bank...

    There will be token minorities available for your next game...

    Thanks Fed-Gov.
    You must also donate a percentage of your winnings based on a progressive scale to the losers at the end of each game. (The house will take a cut from this donation in addition to the one it takes from all pots.)
    Regular losers will be allowed to upgrade their hand in order to win as often as the house deems "fair".
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Because it's in everyone's best interest to get along. The reward (winning) is more important than petty differences or starting $#@! that will get you thrown out.
    Exactly. There is an incentive to co-exist. Not exactly a reflection of the real world, especially when resources become scarce.



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