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    NRA Position on 3D Printed Guns

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2018...astic-firearms

    FAIRFAX, Va.— Chris W. Cox, executive director, National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action, released the following statement on Tuesday:

    “Many anti-gun politicians and members of the media have wrongly claimed that 3-D printing technology will allow for the production and widespread proliferation of undetectable plastic firearms. Regardless of what a person may be able to publish on the Internet, undetectable plastic guns have been illegal for 30 years. Federal law passed in 1988, crafted with the NRA’s support, makes it unlawful to manufacture, import, sell, ship, deliver, possess, transfer, or receive an undetectable firearm.”
    The NRA has once again shown its true hand. Unless they come out in FULL SUPPORT of Cody Wilson's position and court victory, they are nothing more than corporate whores worried about the competition...
    There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
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    ...is PATHETIC as usual...

    what a bunch of traitors!
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
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    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    what does GOA say about this??
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2018...astic-firearms



    The NRA has once again shown its true hand. Unless they come out in FULL SUPPORT of Cody Wilson's position and court victory, they are nothing more than corporate whores worried about the competition...

    The NRA has always been one of the most effective promoters of gun control (victim disarmament) in the country. If they have nothing to pretend to fight, they become unneccessary. Gotta protect those six-figure salaries somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2018...astic-firearms



    The NRA has once again shown its true hand. Unless they come out in FULL SUPPORT of Cody Wilson's position and court victory, they are nothing more than corporate whores worried about the competition...
    Serious question, as I am also not an enthusiast. Wouldn't the ammo be detectable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2018...astic-firearms

    The NRA has once again shown its true hand. Unless they come out in FULL SUPPORT of Cody Wilson's position and court victory, they are nothing more than corporate whores worried about the competition...
    IIRC, this was a reaction to hysteria about those new fangled plastic guns sold by a company named Glock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Serious question, as I am also not an enthusiast. Wouldn't the ammo be detectable?

    Absolutely. You'd still also probably need a steel barrel, chamber and bolt, as I doubt currently available plastics or composites would be able to withstand the high pressures involved when a round is discharged. Like a Glock has.
    Last edited by CCTelander; 08-01-2018 at 10:43 AM.
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Serious question, as I am also not an enthusiast. Wouldn't the ammo be detectable?
    YES! You can't 'print' brass, lead, and gunpowder! They use standard bullets!
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    Author of, War is a Racket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    IIRC, this was a reaction to hysteria about those new fangled plastic guns sold by a company named Glock.

    Exactly.
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Serious question, as I am also not an enthusiast. Wouldn't the ammo be detectable?
    Yes,, and so would the metal firing pin.

    Allegations to the contrary,, it is detectable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Absolutely. You'd still also probably need a steel barrel, chamber and bolt, as I doubt currently available plastics or composites would be able to withstand the high pressures involved when a round is discharged. Like a Glock has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    what does GOA say about this??
    https://gunowners.org/gun-owners-of-...d-firearms.htm

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    “This is freedom. This is what the Second Amendment protects. With few exceptions under federal law, it is legal to make your own personal firearm, as long as it is not transferred to another person. Why wouldn’t the Second Amendment protect the right of a law-abiding citizen to make his or her own weapons?

    “Anti-gun advocates are taking to the courts to try and stop Defense Distributed. They claim that 3D-printed guns will become a boon for criminals. But that argument is a red herring. Criminals will always break the law and will always get their hands on some kind of weapon.

    “Our rights do not depend on what criminals do. For example, we do not shut down printing presses because someone might use it to libel.

    “Already, almost 80% of firearms used in crime are weapons that were not legally owned. And studies have long shown that criminals have already been making their own illegal weapons or getting illegally-made firearms from overseas.

    “Gun haters always want to focus on the illicit uses of guns, but that would be like only focusing on deaths result from doctors’ negligence -- which are around 250,000 per year -- and ignoring the overwhelming amount of good that they do. In fact, according to the CDC, guns are being used 16 to 100 times more often to save life, than to take life.

    “The bottom line is this: the rights of law-abiding citizens should not be infringed simply because criminals refuse to obey the law. Otherwise, all our rights would be in jeopardy.”
    At least copypasta, jeez
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Absolutely. You'd still also probably need a steel barrel, chamber and bolt, as I doubt currently available plastics or composites would be able to withstand the high pressures involved when a round is discharged. Like a Glock has.


    They actually have working designs with plastic barrels. They are using metal nails for the firing pin, metal springs for the hammer, metal screws, and obviously metal ammo and casings, so those saying these will get through metal detectors are just fear mongering.

    They are making it out to seem like people are going to have cheap easy access to guns now. I wonder if these idiots realise a machine capable of printing a working design costs far more than most hand guns.

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    I saw that movie... you hide the bullet in the lucky rabbit's foot key ring which gets through security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    I saw that movie... you hide the bullet in the lucky rabbit's foot key ring which gets through security.
    That was a Ceramic Gun..



    and it was also Hollywood fiction.
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    That message is pretty easy to read thru. Only buy guns that benefit established gun companies. Its not much different than Ford saying you cant make your own 3D printed car because it hurts our profit margins.
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