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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Everything in DC is for optics.. .
    Good point.




    He says many things on both sides of almost any given issue, what matters is what he does.

    Assuming this headline is not fakenews, does he have permission from his largest donor and Israeli lobby funder Hon. Sheldon Sdelson to do anything other than following Netanyahu's agenda/imposing sanctions on Iran/raising war tensions?

    Trump's sanctions against Iran are a clear breach of international law
    theguardian
    Aug 8, 2018







    Last minute, Adelson flushes Trump campaign with cash

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    Nov 1, 2016 - Son of Republican mega-donor Adelson holds 'Vote for Hillary' sign in ... Adelson donated to Donald Trump's campaign for president in a big ...











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    Pre-election Fakenews:

    Trump says he will be fair to both Israel and Palestinians


    Post-election Realnews:

    https://therealnews.com/stories/trum...inian-conflict




    Trump Abandons All Pretense of Being a ‘Fair Broker’ in the Israel-Palestinian Conflict

    September 11, 2018
    Gideon Levy explains that the US is doing everything to disempower, humiliate and weaken Palestinian representation.

    After Donald Trump was elected president, he immediately made it very clear that he will take the side of the state of Israel, the occupying power, over Palestinians who live under Israeli occupation. He appointed right-wing Zionist religious Jews as a team for handling U.S. participation in the peace process: David Friedman, Jason Greenblatt, and Jared Kushner. And the policies that the U.S. adopted regarding Palestinians has been a series of attacks: moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, defunding UNRWA, the UN agency for the care of Palestinian refugees, and defunding the Palestinian Authority. Last week, the U.S. defunded hospitals in East Jerusalem to the tune of $25 million. And this week it closed the office of the Palestinian Liberation Organization, the PLO, in Washington, D.C., and threatened the Palestinian Authority not to appeal to the International Criminal Court in the Hague against Israeli war crimes. Here’s the announcement that John Bolton made on Monday.
    JOHN BOLTON: Today, reflecting congressional concern with Palestinian attempts to prompt an ICC investigation of Israel, the Department of State will announce the closure of the Palestine Liberation Organization office here in Washington, D.C. And the Trump administration will not keep the office open when the Palestinians refuse to take steps to start direct and meaningful negotiations with Israel. The United States supports a direct and robust peace process, and we will not allow the ICC or any other organization to constrain Israel’s right to self defense.

    ..



    October 3, 2018
    US Officially Sends Largest Ever $38 Billion Military Aid Package to Israel
    Despite some conspiracy theories / innuendos in parts of left wing media, hard to imagine that MAGA could be easily intimidated by likes of Andrew Adler of Atlanta Threat Scandal or blackmailed by likes of actors behind Kushner McGreevey honey-pot sex scandals into following neocons' pushed Syria/Iran war policies. MAGA seems too bold and upright to be victim of such manipulations. Financial inducement seems to be more plausible factor.

    Trump cuts more than $200 million in U.S. aid to Palestinians
    Aug 24, 2018 - WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is cutting more than $200 million in aid to the Palestinians, the State Department said on Friday.



    May 14, 2018
    Mega-donor Adelson, with access and influence, scores two pro- Israel victories

    After relocating from Tel Aviv, the U.S. embassy officially opened in Jerusalem. Israel prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, thanked President Donald Trump for making the move.
    By Peter Stone, Special McClatchy Correspondent

    These are heady days for casino billionaire and megadonor Sheldon Adelson.
    A passionate and hawkish advocate for Israel with close ties to its prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, Adelson was in Jerusalem today for a celebration of the U.S. embassy’s relocation to that city, a longstanding priority for the mogul. Similarly, Adelson had pushed hard for President Donald Trump to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, which happened last week.
    And the day after that announcement, Adelson quietly slipped into the White House for a private meeting with Trump and three top administration officials: Vice President Mike Pence, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and an Adelson favorite, National Security Adviser John Bolton, according to two conservative sources familiar with the previously unreported private event.







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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Don't even act like you have been paying attention to anything, puppy. You aren't paying enough attention to know what is going on in Korea, or if anything is being accomplished. All you know is what I rub your face in, puppy.
    I lived in Korea for a few years, am rather well acquainted with it, and I notice when it pops up in the news. I've also seen the rapprochement hamster wheel there at work for a couple of decades. Maybe this time will be different, but thus far all of your supposed
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Dozens of other stories of goodwill have come from Korea.
    are all things which have happened before and did not yield the ends which you seem to think are imminent. During the Clinton presidency things got much further along than they are right now. Maybe things will be different this time. Maybe not. Either way, celebrations are premature.

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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I lived in Korea for a few years, am rather well acquainted with it, and I notice when it pops up in the news. I've also seen the rapprochement hamster wheel there at work for a couple of decades. Maybe this time will be different, but thus far all of your supposed
    More puppy $#@! on the carpet. You just don't pay attention, puppy.

    During the Clinton presidency things got much further along than they are right now.
    "much further"

    More $#@!.

    How many times did Clinton meet Kim Jung Il?
    How many times were two exercises in a row canceled, in the 90's?

    You must love having your face rubbed in it, puppy.

  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    If something is actually accomplished, I will applaud it. What I'm mocking is the pre-celebration of Trump's accomplishments before they happen. The whole reason the NK PR "wore off" is because it was, in the language of Trumpkins, a big fat nothing burger. It was a a diplomatic "mission accomplished" banner.

    See also: All of these October announcements of "we're going to repeal Obamacare for real this time guys" and "we're going to cut the budget for real this time guys," and "we're going to cut taxes but for the middle class this time guys," and so on.


    It's not about going against libertarianism, it's about not being a credulous moron who believes everything that comes out of the mouth of a pathological liar.
    Oh boo fkn hoo...

    Tax cuts were great, you never even saw it coming. Everyday Americans have more jobs to interview for, upward mobility, extra holiday bonuses, a little more every paycheck. Not everybody benefited but to say that middle class didn't benefit is plain ignorant of even libertarian values. We always pushed for tax cuts and now that taxes have been cut, at a larger scale than we ever thought would happen, oh suddenly its not "middle class" enough. Spare me the drama man. I see you're only 4 years in on this forum so maybe you need more time to understand tax cuts and what it does for an economy and what the most recent cuts has already done for this economy.

    Obamacare not being repealed? That Trump's fault too? Everybody was on board, and McCain screwed it up out of spite. We were all watching, don't pretend you don't know what happened.

    Your posts lead me to believe that no, you won't give credit where due because things have been accomplished and you just continue to hold onto your libertarian purity like a baby's blankey.

    If Ron met with Kim Jung Un and set a path to denuclearization and end to the Korean war before year two was done, you'd be out of Kleenex.
    Last edited by eleganz; 10-22-2018 at 12:48 AM.
    THE SQUAD of RPF
    1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
    3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

  6. #95
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Bump
    The ball is in their court.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The ball is in their court.

    They being who?


    In unrelated news, was this a terrorist attack?



    Nearly 2 Dozen Iranian Revolutionary Guards Reportedly Killed In Suicide Bomb Attack On Bus
    February 13, 2019
    A bomb attack on a Revolutionary Guards bus in Iran's Sistan and Baluchestan Province Wednesday killed some 40 people.

    A truck bomb attack on a bus carrying members of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, killed 27 Guards and wounded 13 others in the southeastern Sistan and Baluchistan Province on Wednesday, according to Iranian media reports.


    Israel might expand covert war against Iran beyond Syria in coming year
    A reduction has noted in weapons shipments, funds to Iran’s Syria project
    By Anna Ahronheim
    February 13, 2019

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    They being who?
    Iran, they are the ones who refuse to talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    In unrelated news, was this a terrorist attack?



    Nearly 2 Dozen Iranian Revolutionary Guards Reportedly Killed In Suicide Bomb Attack on bus
    February 13, 2019
    A bomb attack on a Revolutionary Guards bus in Iran's Sistan and Baluchestan Province Wednesday killed some 40 people.

    A truck bomb attack on a bus carrying members of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, killed 27 Guards and wounded 13 others in the southeastern Sistan and Baluchistan Province on Wednesday, according to Iranian media reports.


    Israel might expand covert war against Iran beyond Syria in coming year
    A reduction has noted in weapons shipments, funds to Iran’s Syria project
    By Anna Ahronheim
    February 13, 2019
    What do you think?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  11. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Bump
    They still refuse to talk.

    Trump's policy so far may not be what it should but he has offered to talk and they have refused.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  13. #101
    Japanese Prime Minister Abe Shinzo conveyed a message from US President Donald Trump to the Iranian leadership, asking the release of 5 US prisoners and inviting Iran to sit around a negotiation table, adding “he [Donald Trump] would be ready to suspend all sanctions only during the negotiations”. No guarantee was offered to freeze or revoke the sanctions. Sayyed Ali Khamenei, the Leader of the revolution, rejected the message and any dialogue with the US President and told his guest that he considers Trump unworthy to “to exchange a message with”.

    More at: https://www.globalresearch.ca/trump-...pected/5680867
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  14. #102
    Bump
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  15. #103
    Iran is still the one refusing to talk.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  16. #104
    Bump
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Iran is still the one refusing to talk.
    Bump
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  19. #106
    Bump
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Iran is still the one refusing to talk.
    Bump
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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