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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
I don't think things are quite that simple. I don't think Rand and Trump hate each other and I don't think they are trying to hurt each other. Trump does a lot of good things and I think Rand sees that. And I think that these two don't see each other as the enemy. But unfortunately Trump is not ideological or predictable so sometimes he aligns with liberty values, and sometimes he doesn't.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Rand's decision to vote for Kavanaugh is more disappointing than the Pompeo vote. This is a man who will sit on that bench for his lifetime is he's chosen. Not a good look.
I know Rand panders to other Republican voters besides libertarians, but he usually did it through media interviews and tweets. Not voting on the Senate floor.
Judge Napolitano said Randy Barnett would be his top choice on Tom Woods' show. Randy Barnett is Rand's go to legal guy. Rand Barnett is a yes on Kavanaugh,
"Is Brett Kavanaugh such a nominee? Some libertarians have been skeptical of this, and I have been spending a bit of time bringing myself up to speed on his record. There are a few sour notes--two in particular--but on balance, his record is strong. He is pretty ardently committed to textualism--more on this below--and the separation of powers. And he is skeptical about judicial deference to administrative agencies. He has a superb Second Amendment opinion in Heller 2 in which he rejects the tiers of scrutiny approach that many circuits have been using to gut the Supreme Court's decisions in"
https://reason.com/volokh/2018/07/29...bertarian-case
Here’s The Libertarian Case For Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court Nomination
https://thefederalist.com/2018/07/29...rt-nomination/
FWIW, Ron is borderline terrible on judicial issues. Ron thinks states like in Griswold vs Connecticut can just ban contraception. Ron thinks in Lawrence vs Texas states can have laws banning sodomy. I wouldn't automatically concede Ron would be better than Kavanaugh on the bench. I think he probably would be but Ron would not be the examplar on legal opinions.
Rand Paul made such a big deal about the 4th amendment throughout his political career that if there is any place to make a stand on, this is it. Even only to retain some of the credibility he has on this issue. The man squandered his presidential campaign trying to court voters by telling them how govt plans of searching millennial's cellphones when they clearly cared more about bread and butter economic issues, he has done filibusters on it on the senate floor and now he will just give in and vote for Kavanaugh?
Anyone one who still thinks any solution will come from a politician/politics needs to wake up and smell the roses.
James Corbettwhat have people learned from the disaster of the Obama years? Do they understand the true nature of deep state power? The true continuity of agenda that takes place even as the pendulum swings from left to right? Or are they simply going to fall for the same trick, again and again, until the final nail is placed in the coffin of human freedom?
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I'm hoping that Rand knows Kavanaugh won't make it even with his vote and is taking the opportunity to look like a team player.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I disagree entirely, Trump is a moderate at best, he changes from democrat to republican and no one bats an eye. If Rand Paul ran on the democrat party there is no way people would think he is a Democrat. They might be part of the same party but that's about it. You could say but didn't Rand endorse Trump?
Not really, the Republican party picked him, and they basically made Rand promise to endorse whoever the Republican nominee ends up being during the 2016 election, Rand maybe has different ethics than you but he would of endorsed Jeb Bush if he was the nominee, that's just the kind of guy he is, he is a man of his word.
Now you could say well don't they politically align on issue x, y z? No, not really, that would be a debatable statement at best. Trump doesn't have any sort of real political ideology, at least that he is consistent on, the only thing that he is consistent on is his neocon foreign policy in regards to Iran.
This is like saying that Ron Wyden and Ron Paul don't disagree on the role of government, or Rand Paul and Cory Booker. Rand will work with whomever he can on single issues and he goes out of his way not to burn bridges with politicians or their supporters, that doesn't make him a sell out.
We should change the forum name to "Matt Collins judge mental dictates." Honestly, Matt posts here maybe once or twice in a full moon and bitches about Rand. Hey, Matt has got the chops.He's a leader and a doer.
Oh and let's not forget Rand endorsed Mitch.
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Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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It's all about Freedom
President Donald Trump on Monday expressed his appreciation to Sen. Rand Paul for his promise to support the confirmation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.
“Thank you to @RandPaul for your YES on a future great Justice of the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh,” Trump wrote in a Monday evening tweet. “Your vote means a lot to me, and to everyone who loves our Country!” (RELATED: RAND’S REVEAL: PAUL JUST ANNOUNCED HIS DECISION ON THE KAVANAUGH CONFIRMATION)
Thank you to @RandPaul for your YES on a future great Justice of the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh. Your vote means a lot to me, and to everyone who loves our Country!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 30, 2018
More at: http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/30/tr...naugh-support/
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Dunno, after being shot at, been in a highly unlikely train collision with a garbage truck and seriously assaulted by his neighbor, perhaps Rand has considered that his life may be in danger if he bucks too hard. That's a tough position to be in if you're a Republican lawmaker that seems to be a constant target of a series of unfortunate events.
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"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
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