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    To Stop the Cartels, Mexico Strongly Considering the Legalization of ALL Drugs



    By John Vibes - July 19, 2018

    This week, Olga Sanchez Cordero, the future interior minister of incoming Mexican president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, announced that the government is strongly considering the decriminalization of all drugs.

    Sanchez Cordero said at a seminar that she has full permission from the incoming administration to do whatever it takes to stop the cartel violence in the country, and ending the drug war is at the top of the list.

    “On the subject of decriminalizing drugs, Andres Manuel told me, and I quote: ‘Carte blanche. Whatever is necessary to restore peace in this country. Let’s open up the debate,'” Cordero said.

    “What no one can deny with hard data is that, at least in the past 10 years, the Mexican government has been incapable of stopping violence and responding to it with institutional mechanisms,” she added.

    The steady increase in violent crime over the past few decades is directly correlated with the escalation of the drug war. As we saw during the times of alcohol prohibition, when you ban an inanimate object, you create an incentive for people to get involved in the black market distribution of that object. Since there is no accountability or means of peaceful dispute resolution within the black market, buyers and sellers are forced to resort to violence as their sole means of handling disagreements.

    Eventually, this violence spills over into the everyday world and affects everyone’s lives. No one could imagine Budweiser and Miller Lite in a back alley gunfight, but less than a century ago, during alcohol prohibition, distributors of the drug were involved in shootouts on a regular basis—just as drug gangs are today. Of course, all of this violence came to an immediate end when alcohol was legalized. However, it was not long before the establishment found a new crusade in the drug war, which allowed them to continue the same policy, just with different substances.

    In 2001, Portugal became the first country in the world to end the drug war within its borders, and in the short time since, the country has seen a radical improvement in their society. In regards to drugs, they actually now have less of a negative impact on society in Portugal than they did prior to the end of prohibition. There are now fewer drug-related deaths, fewer children getting a hold of drugs, and fewer people doing drugs in general.

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    Someone still will need to supply the drugs for the decriminalized drugs.

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    Reversing the immigration problem?

    Do you party? Welcome to Mexico.
    The bigger government gets, the smaller I wish it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy View Post
    Reversing the immigration problem?

    Do you party? Welcome to Mexico.
    Ya, now they just need to relax their immigration laws.
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    if Mexico actually does this, expect a sudden gov coup financed by the alphabets.
    There is no spoon.

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    In 2001, Portugal became the first country in the world to end the drug war within its borders, and in the short time since, the country has seen a radical improvement in their society. In regards to drugs, they actually now have less of a negative impact on society in Portugal than they did prior to the end of prohibition. There are now fewer drug-related deaths, fewer children getting a hold of drugs, and fewer people doing drugs in general.
    Drugs are still illegal in Portugal. What changed is how you are handled if you are caught. If you have more than "personal amounts", you do go to jail. If you have "personal amounts" you don't go to jail but must attend anti-drug treatment programs. The treatment is a crucial part of their program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    if Mexico actually does this, expect a sudden gov coup financed by the alphabets.
    Who do you trust, our own intelligence agencies or a evil foreign government?
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    Not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    if Mexico actually does this, expect a sudden gov coup financed by the alphabets.

    With "illegal" drug money.
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    Hopefully this happens and succeeds, then maybe we can get people to do it here.
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    Making anything illegal only creates a Black Market for it. If you want any sort of control over it, it needs to be legalized.

    Trouble with this concept is that it isnt Mexico that is consuming all the drugs, its the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Making anything illegal only creates a Black Market for it. If you want any sort of control over it, it needs to be legalized.
    This isn't universally true, murder for hire doesn't have to be legal in order to control it.
    However when the deepstate runs the drug trade prohibition's only effect is to raise their profits and eliminate their competition.

    In any case drug prohibition is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The treatment is a crucial part of their program.
    Why is forced treatment "crucial"?
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This isn't universally true, murder for hire doesn't have to be legal in order to control it.
    However when the deepstate runs the drug trade prohibition's only effect is to raise their profits and eliminate their competition.

    In any case drug prohibition is wrong.
    I actually agree with you on all points.

    Murder being legal, we need look no further than US Military or Cops. Also, Self Defense. Just to validate both sides of the point.
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    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Murder being legal, we need look no further than US Military or Cops.
    Depending on how they are used the military and the cops could be considered to be legalized murder for hire but the legalization doesn't help control it.

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    Also, Self Defense.
    It may be killing but it isn't murder unless the situation was provoked on purpose, in that case it isn't legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Depending on how they are used the military and the cops could be considered to be legalized murder for hire but the legalization doesn't help control it.


    It may be killing but it isn't murder unless the situation was provoked on purpose, in that case it isn't legal.

    Again, fully agree.

    Playfully flipping the argument... What some people want. Sure, you can go to war, and we will even give you a gun and tanks and bombs, but youre not allowed to kill anyone! I dont think that would pan out as well as some people would hope.
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    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Making anything illegal only creates a Black Market for it. If you want any sort of control over it, it needs to be legalized.

    Trouble with this concept is that it isnt Mexico that is consuming all the drugs, its the US.
    And such measures would rightly move the bloodshed to this side of the border where it belongs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    And such measures would rightly move the bloodshed to this side of the border where it belongs.
    Perhaps but there is already bloodshed on this side of the border, some of the bloodshed would simply be ended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Perhaps but there is already bloodshed on this side of the border, some of the bloodshed would simply be ended.
    Mx. needs to worry about their own people, the US hers...

    I personally would love to see the drug 'warriors' eaten by vultures, every last one of 'em...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Why is forced treatment "crucial"?
    To avoid paying a fine, like traffic school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Why is forced treatment "crucial"?
    Because zippy thinks it is crucial for government force to be involved somewhere in every situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Why is forced treatment "crucial"?
    The treatment is how they reduced demand for drugs. That lowered their crime rate and reduced their prison population.
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