Results 1 to 19 of 19

Thread: Sailors tell the US Navy, 'We want beards'

  1. #1

    Exclamation Sailors tell the US Navy, 'We want beards'

    Sailors tell the US Navy, 'We want beards'

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/hairy-iss...040554841.html

    Associated Press
    JENNIFER McDERMOTT
    ,Associated Press•July 20, 2018

    PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — Now that women in the Navy can wear ponytails, men want beards.

    The Navy said last week that servicewomen could sport ponytails, lock hairstyles, or ropelike strands, and wider hair buns, reversing a policy that long forbade females from letting their hair down.

    Servicemen immediately chimed in on social media, asking the Navy if they could grow beards. A sailor's Facebook post with a #WeWantBeards hashtag was shared thousands of times.

    Beards were banned in 1984. The Navy wanted professional-looking sailors who could wear firefighting masks and breathing apparatuses without interference.

    The Navy says that's still the case. Still, some hope the change in female grooming standards opens the door.

    Travis Rader, a 29-year-old naval physical security officer, said allowing beards would boost morale for men, just like allowing ponytails and locks has for women. There are two things that would make many Navy men happy: beards and better boots, he added.

    Rader had a 6-inch-long beard when he joined the Navy after high school.

    "You take something away from somebody, and they want it more," said Rader, a master-at-arms assigned to Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma City.

    The Navy announced it was adding grooming options for women during a Facebook Live event. Many black women had asked the Navy to be more inclusive of different hair textures. The Navy had the standards in place because of safety concerns and to ensure everyone maintained a uniform, professional look.

    Rader was one of several sailors who wrote in the comments section of the Facebook Live event to press for beards. Bill Williams, a 20-year-old naval information systems technician, commented too, asking why sailors can't have beards if bearded civilian firefighters wear masks.

    Williams said he thinks a nice, well-groomed beard looks very professional.

    "It'd be great because I know that when I shave for multiple days in a row, it starts to really hurt," said Williams, who works at the Naval Computer and Telecommunications Station Hampton Roads in Virginia.

    Sailors can get permission to grow a beard for religious reasons or if they have a skin condition that's irritated by shaving. Mustaches are allowed as long as they are trimmed and neat.

    "Handlebar mustaches, goatees, beards or eccentricities are not permitted," the policy states. The Navy isn't currently considering changing that.

    Safety continues to be the primary concern, said Lt. j.g. Stuart Phillips, a spokesman for the chief of naval personnel. He referenced a 2016 study by the Naval Safety Center, which concluded that facial hair affects the proper fit and performance of respirators.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



  2. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  3. #2
    I was in the Navy when this beard ban came down. There were a lot of men that decided it was time to part ways and didn't re-up.

  4. #3
    Vic had a beard when he was in the Navy.

    Last edited by Suzanimal; 07-20-2018 at 08:16 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  5. #4
    older brother sported a beard during his tour... 'nam era

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Vic had a beard when he was in the Navy.


    It takes a village to operate a boat.
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

    Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.


    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

  7. #6
    Beards.... they grow on you.
    There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
    -Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,
    Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
    Author of, War is a Racket!

    It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
    - Diogenes of Sinope

  8. #7
    Have they never seen Das Boot?








    __________________________________________________ ________________
    "A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst

  9. #8
    Don't most of them already have beards
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



  10. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    It takes a village to operate a boat.
    ♪ You can sail the seven seas... ♪

  12. #10
    If only I was able to pull off a beard. My facial hair looks horrible when I don't buzz it off.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  13. #11
    On occasion, there are legit reasons in specific situations. If you work at a job that requires use of a Face Mask (like Painting), it may be a functional necessity to be relatively clean shaven in order for the mask to work properly.

    Flipping the coin, it can also be considered Conformity of Appearance, which removes Individuality. They dont want Individuals in the military, they want cookie cutter assigned identities, and removing facial hair uniqueness is a physical manifestation of psychological individuality. Same exact reason in the Prussian Education Model that students are expected to wear School Uniforms.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  14. #12
    I cannot imagine being worked on by some navy corpsman that was cleanly shaven . That probably looks untrustworthy .
    Do something Danke

  15. #13
    I sported my beard during my stint...

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I sported my beard during my stint...
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

    Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.


    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Homosexual picture doesn't need reposted
    Seems as if your fantasy life has tried to insert itself where it has no business...

    What you do, or desire to do, might have meaning to you but there were no such animals at NRMCGLAKES in 1978....

    However..................There was a new crop of WAVES shipped into corpsschool every other week fresh from basic training...


  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    XXX
    And you complain about AF's picture posts?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



  19. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  20. #17
    I like this Navy better:


    __________________________________________________ ________________
    "A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And you complain about AF's picture posts?

    Just trying to interject some realism is that so bad?
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

    Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.


    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Seems as if your fantasy life has tried to insert itself where it has no business...

    What you do, or desire to do, might have meaning to you but there were no such animals at NRMCGLAKES in 1978....

    However..................There was a new crop of WAVES shipped into corpsschool every other week fresh from basic training...

    Trying to cover your Navy tracks, I don't fault you for that.
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

    Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.


    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.



Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 49
    Last Post: 06-26-2017, 09:00 AM
  2. U.S. Navy Sailors Suing Japan Over Exposure to Fukushima Radiation
    By youngbuck in forum U.S. Political News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-28-2012, 05:42 PM
  3. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 01-07-2012, 01:11 PM
  4. Australian Navy boss says female sailors should wear bikinis
    By ronpaulhawaii in forum Open Discussion
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 01-18-2009, 10:18 PM
  5. John McCain Killed 167 US Navy sailors
    By robertwerden in forum U.S. Political News
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 03-07-2008, 04:15 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •