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Thread: FBI Director: Without Compromise on Encryption, Legislation May Be the 'Remedy'

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    FBI Director: Without Compromise on Encryption, Legislation May Be the 'Remedy'

    https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/07...-be-the-remedy

    FBI Director Christopher Wray said Wednesday that unless the U.S. government and private industry are able to come to a compromise on the issue of default encryption on consumer devices, legislation may be how the debate is ultimately decided. "I think there should be [room for compromise]," Wray said Wednesday night at a national security conference in Aspen, Colorado. "I don't want to characterize private conversations we're having with people in the industry. We're not there yet for sure. And if we can't get there, there may be other remedies, like legislation, that would have to come to bear." Wray described the issue of "Going Dark" because of encryption as a "significant" and "growing" problem for federal, state and local law enforcement as well as foreign law enforcement and intelligence agencies. He claims strong encryption on mobile phones keeps law enforcement from gaining access to key evidence as it relates to active criminal investigations. "People are less safe as a result of it," he said.
    There is no greater threat to the Status Quo than those people who can communicate unsurveilled and promote self conclusions.
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    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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    Hah, ya, no..
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    I want to be less safe please.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Thou shalt not encrypt.

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    Luckily for him, the Supreme Court that is being built will support these sorts of measures.
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    We need to ban encryption to save lives.

    Unless of course you just want people to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Luckily for him, the Supreme Court that is being built will support these sorts of measures.
    Why wouldn't they support it? Encryption isn't protected by the constitution.

    It's certainly not protected by the 2nd amendment. Although encryption has military use, it has absolutely nothing to do with hunting, and isnt protected.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    We need to ban encryption to save lives.

    Unless of course you just want people to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    We need to ban encryption to save lives.

    Unless of course you just want people to die.
    Well, of course we just want people to die!



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    Here's the thing. They claim they are making us safer. The definition of "safer" is as subjective as "good". They are offering a temporary decrease to risks from "terrorists" while increasing the risk that individuals will face from EVERY other type of faction that would use the information gathered for less than honorable means. Every single one of those group affiliations will cause harm to other individuals in many various forms, not all of which are physical, but all are done with a clear conscious that they are "doing the right thing". So make people safe by disabling peoples ability to protect themselves from government intrusions into their lives is only a temporary means due to the Turnkey Nature of Surveillance. When you get a political party into office that will have you dead because you are white or brown or the wrong religion or wrong political affiliation, that same Surveillance they used to temporarily "keep you safe" from groups of people the US itself armed and now defines as "enemy" will be used against the American People.

    Who watches the Watchmen?
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    If you need information or data stored on a cellphone to make your case, then you have no case to begin with. It sounds to me that government officials are wanting the accused and technology to do the work that their own highly-overpaid investigators ought to be doing.
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    Information is power.

    With open communications technology, the NSA data farming operations have immense power.

    Encryption threatens that potentially tyrannical power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    Information is power.

    With open communications technology, the NSA data farming operations have immense power.

    Encryption threatens that potentially tyrannical power.
    Information is the new Gold. Those who have the most information will have the most power over people.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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