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    Progressives Still Baffled that Trump Supporters Dislike GOP

    They still don't know why he got elected.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/tru...-love-exposes/

    In the wake of President Donald Trump’s widely criticized joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the U.K.’s Channel 4 News traveled to Michigan to see how the president’s supporters were reacting to the news.

    Unsurprisingly, they discovered that Trump supporters love him more than ever after he drew widespread rebukes from even his fellow Republicans after he refused to say whether he found his own intelligence agencies more credible than Putin.

    “Those are ‘Never-Trumpers'” replied one woman when pressed about criticisms Trump is receiving from his own party. “And you know, we love when Trump is Trump because it exposes them, and we love that, we love seeing it.”

    “We can focus on what Trump says during a press conference, or we can focus on what he actually does,” insisted a male Trump supporter. “And he’s put people back to work — record-low unemployment for Hispanics… look at what he does, it speaks to Middle America. The Swamp may not like it, but that’s why they’re screaming pretty loud.”
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    That's not the original headline of that piece over at rawstory. Nothing in the article suggests that anyone is having difficulty wrapping their heads around the fact that most DJTveg vegetables are more anti-Establishment than partisan. So where did you get the headline?

    Does this just reflect your own prejudice that progs are slow on the uptake? Or is this a conscious effort to drive wedges between conservative anti-Establishment types and liberal potential #WalkAwayCampaign people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    That's not the original headline of that piece over at rawstory. Nothing in the article suggests that anyone is having difficulty wrapping their heads around the fact that most DJTveg vegetables are more anti-Establishment than partisan. So where did you get the headline?

    Does this just reflect your own prejudice that progs are slow on the uptake? Or is this a conscious effort to drive wedges between conservative anti-Establishment types and liberal potential #WalkAwayCampaign people?
    Progs seem mystified that a large portion of Trump supporters hate the GOP leadership core because they themselves seem to rally around their entrenched party machinery more. They have no misgivings about aligning themselves with the worst of their party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Progs seem mystified that a large portion of Trump supporters hate the GOP leadership core because they themselves seem to rally around their entrenched party machinery more. They have no misgivings about aligning themselves with the worst of their party.
    What progs seem mystified? The ones you know? That can't be--you clearly avoid them as though they are diseased with something contagious. The ones you see online? How do you know the ones you read aren't trolls? The liberal media? Do you still believe the stuff that comes out of liberal talking heads' mouths?

    What evidence do you have, that you put that headline over an unrelated story? What progs are you talking about? And when you talk about people having 'no misgivings about aligning themselves with the worst of their party,' who are you talking about? All progs? Some progs? Which progs?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    That's not the original headline of that piece over at rawstory. Nothing in the article suggests that anyone is having difficulty wrapping their heads around the fact that most DJTveg vegetables are more anti-Establishment than partisan. So where did you get the headline?

    Does this just reflect your own prejudice that progs are slow on the uptake? Or is this a conscious effort to drive wedges between conservative anti-Establishment types and liberal potential #WalkAwayCampaign people?
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What progs seem mystified? The ones you know? That can't be--you clearly avoid them as though they are diseased with something contagious. The ones you see online? How do you know the ones you read aren't trolls? The liberal media? Do you still believe the stuff that comes out of liberal talking heads' mouths?

    What evidence do you have, that you put that headline over an unrelated story? What progs are you talking about? And when you talk about people having 'no misgivings about aligning themselves with the worst of their party,' who are you talking about? All progs? Some progs? Which progs?
    Progs are the worst of their side of the aisle, they aren't potential #walkaway participants, they are what potential ex-leftists would be walking away from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What progs seem mystified? The ones you know? That can't be--you clearly avoid them as though they are diseased with something contagious. The ones you see online? How do you know the ones you read aren't trolls? The liberal media? Do you still believe the stuff that comes out of liberal talking heads' mouths?

    What evidence do you have, that you put that headline over an unrelated story? What progs are you talking about? And when you talk about people having 'no misgivings about aligning themselves with the worst of their party,' who are you talking about? All progs? Some progs? Which progs?
    Ya sorry but you are really out to lunch on this one.

    Show me the articles by progressives talking about how Hillary stole the election from Bernie Sanders and thanking Russia for shining a light in that dark corner....

    Nope, they are all screaming "Russia!! Russia!!" because they want to impeach Trump. They don't care that the DNC stole the election from Bernie, and that is a worse offense than Russia releasing the emails that showed such. I mean, the Democrats really should be thanking Russia if they think they are the ones who hacked the emails (we all know it was Seth Rich).
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ya sorry but you are really out to lunch on this one.
    And you've been out to lunch for at least a decade.

    What part of that article above has anything to do with the headline GoldHydrogenTwenty made up for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And you've been out to lunch for at least a decade.

    What part of that article above has anything to do with the headline GoldHydrogenTwenty made up for it?
    I hear that bull$#@! almost every day from progressives... "your Republican friends (McCain et al) even think that Trump blah blah diahrea"
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ya sorry but you are really out to lunch on this one.

    Show me the articles by progressives talking about how Hillary stole the election from Bernie Sanders and thanking Russia for shining a light in that dark corner....

    Nope, they are all screaming "Russia!! Russia!!" because they want to impeach Trump. They don't care that the DNC stole the election from Bernie, and that is a worse offense than Russia releasing the emails that showed such. I mean, the Democrats really should be thanking Russia if they think they are the ones who hacked the emails (we all know it was Seth Rich).
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ya sorry but you are really out to lunch on this one.

    Show me the articles by progressives talking about how Hillary stole the election from Bernie Sanders and thanking Russia for shining a light in that dark corner....

    Nope, they are all screaming "Russia!! Russia!!" because they want to impeach Trump. They don't care that the DNC stole the election from Bernie, and that is a worse offense than Russia releasing the emails that showed such. I mean, the Democrats really should be thanking Russia if they think they are the ones who hacked the emails (we all know it was Seth Rich).
    ^^^That^^^ is the sound of dynamite going BOOOOOM!

    I've yet to get a prog to rebut this. I've been saying this, this morning and evening. Crickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Show me the articles by progressives talking about how Hillary stole the election
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=clinton+stole+primary
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Uh, ya, notice they are all from November 2017 and all the progs seem to have forgotten about it.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I hear that bull$#@! almost every day from progressives... "your Republican friends (McCain et al) even think that Trump blah blah diahrea"
    What does that have to do with the article cited and linked in the OP?

    And if you don't like being lumped in with the general population of Republicans, why would you do the same exact thing to Democrats?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Uh, ya, notice they are all from November 2017 and all the progs seem to have forgotten about it.
    shhhhh.. Russia stole the election!!! Trump is a traitor!! Trump is a loser

    What a sad bunch of **** sapienses

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    The LEFT WING of the Democratic Party is more than toying with the idea of impeachment. (fact)

    Donald Trump has a hard core of supporters who tend to despise or distrust the GOP regulars. (fact)

    Bernie and Hillary agreed on nearly all the issues but diverged on what to do about things. (opinion)

    Dissent needs an arena, an area to voice discontents. Think of the American Revolution!!! (opinion)

    If the Walk-Away impulse becomes a phenomenon and then a movement, a coalition builds. (inference)

    Let's try to be polite, nice, inviting, gracious, erudite, clever, resourceful and receptive again! (plee)

    There are elections in the fall, and people out campaigning. All are bellwethers for 2020!!! (statement)

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What does that have to do with the article cited and linked in the OP?

    And if you don't like being lumped in with the general population of Republicans, why would you do the same exact thing to Democrats?
    I don't do the same thing to Democrats. I used to support the green party a couple decades ago, I've never in my life supported any Democrat. I find out if they supported Obama/Hillary and if they have TDS they should be lumped in with them.. but it is REALLY hard to come by Democrats who are anti-establishment these days. NPR and all the other BS leftist drivel comes straight from Wapo/CNN/NYT
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I don't do the same thing to Democrats. I used to support the green party a couple decades ago, I've never in my life supported any Democrat. I find out if they supported Obama/Hillary and if they have TDS they should be lumped in with them.. but it is REALLY hard to come by Democrats who are anti-establishment these days. NPR and all the other BS leftist drivel comes straight from Wapo/CNN/NYT
    That's all right. You can get back to me on what any of this has to do with the fact that this thread title has nothing to do with the article cited in the OP. I can wait until you get back from lunch, if you think you might within the next decade.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Progs have difficulties with so many things . Math being one .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    That's all right. You can get back to me on what any of this has to do with the fact that this thread title has nothing to do with the article cited in the OP. I can wait until you get back from lunch, if you think you might within the next decade.
    The thread title may contain some editorializing but it is accurate and the content posted certainly does not contradict it.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What does that have to do with the article cited and linked in the OP?

    And if you don't like being lumped in with the general population of Republicans, why would you do the same exact thing to Democrats?
    Progressives =/= Democrats, progressives are the worst part of the democrats, there are even Republican progressives.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Progs seem mystified that a large portion of Trump supporters hate the GOP leadership core because they themselves seem to rally around their entrenched party machinery more. They have no misgivings about aligning themselves with the worst of their party.
    They have no core principles and no way to understand people who do.



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