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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by FvS View Post
    Do people here honestly think that the MSM would rather have Trump in power just so they can keep their ratings?

    These are a little old.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/16/cn...op-30-percent/
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/195542/...s-new-low.aspx

    The invasion from Central America is the single greatest threat to liberty currently facing this country. Trump is an ally in this regard. If Trump withdraws from Syria and Afghanistan, he is an ally. If Trump brings about a détente with Russia, he is an ally. If he doesn't start a major war, he is an ally. If he discredits the deep state, he is an ally. Hell, most people didn't even know what the deep state was before Trump. If he exposes the lunatic Left, he is an ally. Trump sure as hell isn't perfect, but there is a lot more good coming from his presidency than bad. And if it wasn't for Trump, Hillary would have won. Anyone that thinks that Trump is just as bad as Hillary would have been is absolutely delusional.
    I think that your overall assumption is wrong, I think Rand Paul was right when he said that any of the Republicans would of beaten Clinton. We will have to see if the economy keeps up, but right now that's the only thing keeping a majority of Trump's supporters on his good side. I've seen every type of Trump supporter you can think of rationalize every thing they didn't like or disagree with by saying that they still support him because of the economy. I don't think that its really any different than Ted Cruz, he would of neoconned us and invested in regime change in Iran as well.



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  3. #92
    In my opinion, all the other candidates were likely too weak on immigration to stir up the necessary voter interest that was needed to beat Hillary.

  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by FvS View Post
    In my opinion, all the other candidates were likely too weak on immigration to stir up the necessary voter interest that was needed to beat Hillary.
    Which candidate do you think would fair the worst? The only thing that would of maybe made her beat one of the other candidates would be if the Sanders supporters never learned that she cheated them out of their vote and their money. None of the democrats that I knew were excited about Clinton- she is hated in the democrat party.

  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers
    Which candidate do you think would fair the worst? The only thing that would of maybe made her beat one of the other candidates would be if the Sanders supporters never learned that she cheated them out of their vote and their money. None of the democrats that I knew were excited about Clinton- she is hated in the democrat party.
    Probably, The Jeb. I don't know, maybe I'm giving Trump too much credit, and Rand or Cruz would have won as well. Regardless, the Hillary disaster was averted, and we got the President that is most likely to prevent the demographic change that would hand this country to the socialists forever.

  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by FvS View Post
    Probably, The Jeb. I don't know, maybe I'm giving Trump too much credit, and Rand or Cruz would have won as well. Regardless, the Hillary disaster was averted, and we got the President that is most likely to prevent the demographic change that would hand this country to the socialists forever.
    Socialism never lasts forever, you always run out of other peoples money. We have more socialism every day, not less. I hope you are right and I am wrong though, you seem optimistic- I stopped thinking Trump cared about ideas and capitalism when he refused to debate Bernie Sanders.

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by FvS View Post
    Do people here honestly think that the MSM would rather have Trump in power just so they can keep their ratings?
    The MSM are lapdogs. They don't pick 'em. They just obey the order to shove 'em down our throats.

    These things happen to lapdogs. You'll notice they're still getting enough corporate sponsors to stay on the air.

    Quote Originally Posted by FvS View Post
    And if it wasn't for Trump, Hillary would have won. Anyone that thinks that Trump is just as bad as Hillary would have been is absolutely delusional.
    According to the 'theoretical matchup polls' back during the primaries, every one of the other sixteen Republican candidates except Jeb Bush and Lindsey Graham would have beaten Clinton by a wider margin. In Rand Paul's case, by a much wider margin. As in, if the GOP had put someone besides an experience-free, obnoxious orange clown up against her, there would be no complaints about the Electoral College. She'd have gotten her dog ass kicked.
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Americans are all in the same boat, beseiged by the same sharks. And if we don't remember that, we're all equally $#@!ed.



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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by FvS View Post
    In my opinion, all the other candidates were likely too weak on immigration to stir up the necessary voter interest that was needed to beat Hillary.
    Really? Is this what you think? That immigration was such an important issue in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio???

    The fact is that Hillary lost more than Trump won. And she most likely would have lost against any Republican candidate. Especially, if they spoke to the blue collar worker, which most of them were doing.


    As to the media, read what acptulsa said. They have a show to put on. And the best way to get ratings is to have people divided and agitated. That's why every news incident turns into a "controversy" with people lining up on either side. The media's job in the US is to make sure people are pointing the finger at each other instead of the government. Oh sure, they'll get mad at what the other party is doing with their power, but they will never take that power away from government - it's only about getting "the right team" to have the power.

    It's kinda sad that still, after all we've seen, that even in RPF some are still distracted by this performance art. Seriously, turn on CNN for a 1/2 hour... Look at it with an objective eye. Don't get caught up in the topic - it doesn't matter which topic they're using - pay attention to the message they're selling. They want the public to be riled up against the other party. Same with Fox, MSNBC, local news, social media, major newspapers...

    And whatever candidate that can draw more interest into that show is the candidate they prefer the most. It doesn't matter if they have an "R" or "D" beside their name, that's irrelevant. They'll get rewarded for how well they can keep people interested in the division show. Government will still grow in one area or the other, and when the next cycle comes up and they find a ratings candidate in the other party, they can pick back up and grow the opposite side of government.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Really? Is this what you think? That immigration was such an important issue in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio???

    I can only speak anecdotally. I live in MI. My parents both love Trump. The two things they like most are his views on immigration and trade. I think the trade and immigration stuff plays really well here.

    Large parts of the Midwest have populations that are 95%+ white. A lot of lower end jobs are starting to be filled with people from Central America. I think the immigration issue is a lot bigger than you think to middle aged and older people in the Midwest.

  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Socialism never lasts forever, you always run out of other peoples money. We have more socialism every day, not less. I hope you are right and I am wrong though, you seem optimistic- I stopped thinking Trump cared about ideas and capitalism when he refused to debate Bernie Sanders.
    I agree. As I've said many times the SIZE of government, measured by total spending, is by far the biggest problem we have, at least in my opinion.

  12. #100
    While all this stuff is going on, the FRN DOLLAR IS BEING DROPPED AS RESERVE CURRENCY and we're entering a climate change period due to a Grand Solar Minimum that's already starting to show effects and will have major impacts. But instead of paying attention to those issues that affect us ALL and preparing accordingly, people are caught up in Trump's giant soap opera/reality show, manufactured entirely by the media. What irks me isn't really what Trump is or isn't doing/saying but rather that all of it was planned (it all is, as much as possible) yet people still grovel at Trump's feet as if a trade war with China was Trump's idea, instead of it being the covert method for the world to dump the dollar and reducing our standard of living. And positioning the same elite to fully control everyone and everything during the climate shift, which will effectively mark the end of what little freedom is left. Yet it's Trump 24/7/365. Few are prepared and few are keeping their eyes on the ball. And I can only surmise that it is intentional.
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  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    It's kinda sad that still, after all we've seen, that even in RPF some are still distracted by this performance art. Seriously, turn on CNN for a 1/2 hour... Look at it with an objective eye. Don't get caught up in the topic - it doesn't matter which topic they're using - pay attention to the message they're selling. They want the public to be riled up against the other party. Same with Fox, MSNBC, local news, social media, major newspapers...

    And whatever candidate that can draw more interest into that show is the candidate they prefer the most. It doesn't matter if they have an "R" or "D" beside their name, that's irrelevant. They'll get rewarded for how well they can keep people interested in the division show. Government will still grow in one area or the other, and when the next cycle comes up and they find a ratings candidate in the other party, they can pick back up and grow the opposite side of government.
    I agree that ratings are the main driver, and controversy drives ratings, but I'm ok with that. What bothers me is that, for the most part, the media has a very strong liberal bias. For example if you were to see a show on CNN about the minimum wage, it would be "How Much Should We Raise the Minimum Wage?" One side would argue we need to raise to $20 an hour and the "opposing" viewpoint is that we need to only raise it to $10 an hour. The idea of eliminating it would be the furthest thing from their minds. My theory is that on average liberal arts majors like journalism tend to be socialist while most technical people tend to be more libertarian.

  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I agree that ratings are the main driver, and controversy drives ratings, but I'm ok with that. What bothers me is that, for the most part, the media has a very strong liberal bias. For example if you were to see a show on CNN about the minimum wage, it would be "How Much Should We Raise the Minimum Wage?" One side would argue we need to raise to $20 an hour and the "opposing" viewpoint is that we need to only raise it to $10 an hour. The idea of eliminating it would be the furthest thing from their minds. My theory is that on average liberal arts majors like journalism tend to be socialist while most technical people tend to be more libertarian.
    The people who think words don't mean anything debate the meaning of written law. Our justice system is turned inside out, I suspect some of the socialists are just doing it all out of spite against the man which is ironic

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I agree that ratings are the main driver, and controversy drives ratings, but I'm ok with that. What bothers me is that, for the most part, the media has a very strong liberal bias. For example if you were to see a show on CNN about the minimum wage, it would be "How Much Should We Raise the Minimum Wage?" One side would argue we need to raise to $20 an hour and the "opposing" viewpoint is that we need to only raise it to $10 an hour. The idea of eliminating it would be the furthest thing from their minds. My theory is that on average liberal arts majors like journalism tend to be socialist while most technical people tend to be more libertarian.
    So, I would argue that the media have a very pro-government bias. Most times that appears to be "liberal", but they are also very pro-war.

    To your secondary point, you are also correct. It is in the fields where you find people who pay no price for being wrong that you find the most pro-government people. In most businesses, if you make bad decisions, you will soon go broke. These people tend to weigh the impacts of their decisions. But in journalism, education, arts, even law and politics, it doesn't matter how wrong you are as long as people are dazzled. You just ask for more. It is that mentality (Sowell called it the unconstrained vision) that figures there are no costs to being wrong - so they always want more government. "Oh, we were wrong about WMD's? Oh well, look what we're talking about this week!"
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    So, I would argue that the media have a very pro-government bias. Most times that appears to be "liberal", but they are also very pro-war.

    To your secondary point, you are also correct. It is in the fields where you find people who pay no price for being wrong that you find the most pro-government people. In most businesses, if you make bad decisions, you will soon go broke. These people tend to weigh the impacts of their decisions. But in journalism, education, arts, even law and politics, it doesn't matter how wrong you are as long as people are dazzled. You just ask for more. It is that mentality (Sowell called it the unconstrained vision) that figures there are no costs to being wrong - so they always want more government. "Oh, we were wrong about WMD's? Oh well, look what we're talking about this week!"
    Yeah you're right, about the only the media supported Trump was when he launched missile strikes at Syria(I think). That really surprised me that the media liked that.

    I think another reason liberal art majors tend to be "liberal" is that you have to think things thru a little more to understand why capitalism works. It can be a little counter-intuitive that the best way to help poor people is to let the rich people keep their money, not take it and give it to the poor.



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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    You know, Rand is being worlds better than the rest of them on this, which is sadly not saying a ton. But why is he conceding about it having happened? Why is he giving that up, when he knows it's not true. Everyone over 115 IQ who's paid any attention to the story knows it's not true. I wish that he would have said,

    OK, Wolf, where's the evidence?

    I love it when Tucker hoists the black flag and broadcasts Helmuth talking points to millions. There it is, in an all-caps banner plastered across the screen:


    WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE?


    Exactly, my man.

    Where is it?

    Can you tell us, @Zippyjuan?

  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    immigration was such an important issue in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio?
    Yeah, man. It is. Agree or disagree with it, that's cool, but it objectively is obviously a huge issue, to the under-$50,000 and white crowd in particular. This would be obvious to you -- because it's really, really obvious -- if you had ever lived in these places and socialized with such people. Maybe you think they're evil bigots, whatevs (like they care about your opinions). And again, that's coool. But I don't want you to be under-informed about objective facts like this. Immigration was and is an extremely important issue. There are now millions of single-issue voters on the subject, kind of like there long have been on guns.

  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    Yeah, man. It is. Agree or disagree with it, that's cool, but it objectively is obviously a huge issue, to the under-$50,000 and white crowd in particular. This would be obvious to you -- because it's really, really obvious -- if you had ever lived in these places and socialized with such people. Maybe you think they're evil bigots, whatevs (like they care about your opinions).
    ?? What the hell are you talking about? I live in Ohio and my family is in Western PA. The under $50K white people are my crowd. lol Sure, many of them like Trump, but they HATE Hillary! They didn't go to the polls over immigration - they went to make sure that bitch wasn't in the White House. They would have voted for Lucifer if he had a chance to keep her from winning. We don't have immigrants taking our jerbs - we were losing our coal and steel jobs to regulation. Immigration was an issue, but it was way down the list. Top of the list??? Keeping out the Hildabeest.


    ETA this link: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/prog...ate-and-county

    Click on Total in the "Select Country/Region of Origin" box and look at the numbers by state. The states I listed are barely impacted by immigration. If you click into the states, you'll see it's even more localized and the areas most heavily impacted actually went for Hillary.
    Last edited by CaptUSA; 07-19-2018 at 01:28 PM.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I think another reason liberal art majors tend to be "liberal" is that you have to think things thru a little more to understand why capitalism works. It can be a little counter-intuitive that the best way to help poor people is to let the rich people keep their money, not take it and give it to the poor.
    "is that you have to think things thru a little more"
    Is that you have to WANT TO think things thru a little more.
    Why would they want to? Riddle me that, Mad. Is that going to help them in their career? Is it going to make it easier or harder for them to hang out with their social circle and relate?

    These people you disparage correctly perceive that having knowledge of this kind of stuff (getting "red-pilled") would be an impediment to them clawing ahead of their peers.

    The more red-pilled you would become, the more divorced from your environment you would become, the more alienated from your classes and professors and the more disillusioned about performing all the tasks required of you like SAT/ACT, other endless tests, gurging vacuous essays about buzzwords, and of course study, study, study! You just lose the ability to stomach it and soldier through.

    There are many young people who are smart enough that they can sense that the dissident right has a point, and may likely even be correct in its logic and analysis, and so they avoid it like the plague. You can't say it's a dumb move. All you can say is that its the wrong move, and that they should care more about the truth. But then you're putting yourself out there, taking a non-ironic moral stand, and do you really want to do that? 'Cause, cuz, that's like so, soo....




  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    What are you talking about?
    I made it clear. Not enough?

    Like, all dem illeegle Mexcans are, like, a big, like, ishew.

    I live in Ohio and my family is in Western PA. The under $50K white people are my crowd. lol Sure, many of them like Trump
    OK......

    So I am wrong because.......

    Immigration was an issue, but it was way down the list. Top of the list??? Keeping out the Hildabeest.
    Ahh, a concession. It was an issue! It turns out. Nice. Accepted.

    You were all like "you fo real? You acktually think immigration is an important issue in WI, MI, PA, and OH? Ha, ha, don't make me laff, bro!"

    So yes, I agree with you. Immigration is an important issue. Apparently it is even an important issue among the members of your own Pennsylvania family. Which I didn't know. But you did, so thanks for that additional confirmation.


    ETA this link: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/prog...ate-and-county

    Click on Total in the "Select Country/Region of Origin" box and look at the numbers by state. The states I listed are barely impacted by immigration. If you click into the states, you'll see it's even more localized and the areas most heavily impacted actually went for Hillary.
    Yeah, I could make a diagnosis here, but I won't go there, 'cause I'm cool. But anyway, you are, like imputing your own insanely logical thought processes on the people all around you and the populace in general and let me just tell you, bro: that is definitely not the case. It doesn't make them worse. It for sure doesn't make them better. But take some time to self-reflect and realize you are an outlier and you think very differently than pretty much everyone you meet, and certainly than people who do things like vote in nationwide elections.

    These people were not making a cost-benefit analysis.

  23. #110
    Wolf Blitzers never had an original thought of his own. A goldfish has more personality than him.
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  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Wolf Blitzers never had an original thought of his own. A goldfish has more personality than him.
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Americans are all in the same boat, beseiged by the same sharks. And if we don't remember that, we're all equally $#@!ed.

  25. #112
    Where do we start with this one? OMG.

    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster



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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Where do we start with this one? OMG.

    (thomas e. ricks did a tweet)
    Yes...

    Becuz he wants
    Something different.

    Yes indeedy.
    Yes...

  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Yes...

    Becuz he wants
    Something different.

    Yes indeedy.
    Yes...

    Duckies... Is this MY naughty post of the day?
    Do I sound like I believe everything DJT says?
    Did he UNDERSTAND his Oath of Office at all?

  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Where do we start with this one? OMG.

    Aratus sits back and again is in deep thought...

  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The MSM are lapdogs. They don't pick 'em. They just obey the order to shove 'em down our throats.
    Indeed, most individual persons in the Media, in the Universities, and in the Government are lapdogs. Each one, no big scary tyrant. Just a lapdog. And together, they control our money, our culture, our society, our worldview, and our life.

    The Cathedral is real.

    Aim your sledgehammer at the Cathedral.

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Aratus sits back and again is in deep thought...
    I seriously thought this was a timosmond post mocking you, Aratus. But then I scrolled up and saw, nope, it was you yourself.

    Well, maybe you have a sense of humor?

  32. #118
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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