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    Trump Admin is Now Admitting They ‘Might Be’ Detaining and Separating U.S. Citizens

    One child’s case in particular is likely to be controversial. According to the report [emphasis added]:

    1 child cannot be reunified at this time because the parent’s location has been unknown for more than a year. Defendants are unable to conclusively determine whether the parent is a class member, and records show the parent and child might be U.S. citizens.

    You read correctly. According to two U.S. Attorneys and six officials within the Department of Justice identified in the Tuesday filing, ICE itself tends to believe that U.S. immigration agents separated a family of U.S. citizens–and then lost track of the parent while keeping the child in the custody of an unmentioned government agency.
    https://lawandcrime.com/immigration/...-u-s-citizens/


    Here's the government's filing. See the top bullet on page 4:
    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ice-Other.html



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    Get back to me when it isn't a "might be", get back to me when the MSM notices CPS abuses, get back to me when the MSM admits this kind of thing happened under O'Bummer, get back to me when you can show this is Trump's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    This has happened before- it is guesstimated that up to hundreds of thousands to over 1 mil Americans of Mexican descent were deported unconstitutionally and illegally under Hoover.

    The Mexican Repatriation was a mass deportation of Mexicans and Mexican-Americans from the United States between 1929 and 1936. Estimates of how many were repatriated range from 400,000 to 2,000,000.[1]:xiii[2]:150 An estimated sixty percent of those deported were birthright citizens of the United States.[2]:330 Because the forced movement was based on race, and ignored citizenship, the process arguably meets modern legal definitions of ethnic cleansing.[3]:6

    Widely blamed for exacerbating the overall economic downturn of the Great Depression,[4] Mexicans were further targeted because of "the proximity of the Mexican border, the physical distinctiveness of mestizos, and easily identifiable barrios."[5] While supported by the federal government, actual deportations were largely organized and carried out by city and state governments, often with support from local private entities.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayed...self-1.4589640

    https://www.history.com/news/operati...54-deportation

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ations/517971/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    This has happened before- it is guesstimated that up to hundreds of thousands to over 1 mil Americans of Mexican descent were deported unconstitutionally and illegally under Hoover.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayed...self-1.4589640

    https://www.history.com/news/operati...54-deportation

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ations/517971/
    He just likes the cute picture he found. Has used it quite a bit in the last 24 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    I didn't actually read any of the thread. I now mostly just come here to mess with Zip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    This has happened before-

    So? That has nothing to do with someone's paid trolling on here.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    This has happened before- it is guesstimated that up to hundreds of thousands to over 1 mil Americans of Mexican descent were deported unconstitutionally and illegally under Hoover.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayed...self-1.4589640

    https://www.history.com/news/operati...54-deportation

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ations/517971/
    Let me know if Trump expels American citizens without some just cause to revoke their citizenship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    He just likes the cute picture he found. Has used it quite a bit in the last 24 hours.

    The glitter coming off that can is mesmerizing.











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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    So this case stems from actions more than a year ago. How much more? Trumps "zero tolerance" policy went into effect this year. In fact, this particular case could go back as far as Obamas administration. Another big nothing burger.
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    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    If the parents were worth a $#@!, they would be making enough noise so that they would have no trouble being found.
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    In Washington you can see them everywhere: the Parasites and baby Stalins sucking the life out of a once-great nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    So? That has nothing to do with someone's paid trolling on here.
    I don't think @TheCount is a troll-never have- he was a poster with clever subtle sarcasm when I first read his stuff.

    Then the Trump-Lovers took over the forum. His sarcasm became more obvious & usually on target-

    I'd say there a a few others trolling to spread hate and discontent but I don't see The Count included in that group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    I don't think @TheCount is a troll-never have- he was a poster with clever subtle sarcasm when I first read his stuff.

    Then the Trump-Lovers took over the forum. His sarcasm became more obvious & usually on target-

    I'd say there a a few others trolling to spread hate and discontent but I don't see The Count included in that group.
    One troll defends another.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    I don't think @TheCount is a troll-never have- he was a poster with clever subtle sarcasm when I first read his stuff.

    Then the Trump-Lovers took over the forum. His sarcasm became more obvious & usually on target-

    I'd say there a a few others trolling to spread hate and discontent but I don't see The Count included in that group.


    Eh, suit yourself. I'm never going to say anything like this unless I am 100% sure. I am 100% sure, but I guess I'll never convince you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    One troll defends another.
    LOL- oh Divine Spreader of Hate & Disinfo- that would be YOU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    LOL- oh Divine Spreader of Hate & Disinfo- that would be YOU.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    US citizens still have to follow the law GASP! The "parent" was probably a human trafficker, citizenship makes no difference.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    One troll defends another.
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