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    First time offenders who come into the U.S. illegally are generally charged with a misdemeanor – but a new bill aims to change that.
    Legislation introduced by Rep. Diane Black, R-Tenn., Tuesday would make illegal entry into the U.S. a felony offense, something she said would act as a “disincentive” to people who are thinking of crossing the border.
    “The United States government should never prioritize illegal immigrants over American citizens,” Black said in a statement. “By no longer creating incentives to come to our country unlawfully, we also discourage families from sending their children on an often dangerous journey to reach our southern border.”


    A felony record would hinder an individual attempting to come into the U.S. legally as it would prevent that person from obtaining a green card, Black told Fox News.

    "We are a compassionate nation and we are a country filled with compassionate people. I've been abroad and I've seen the hardships that people go through, but we've got to have some kind of control and order," she said.

    Dubbed the “Zero Tolerance for Illegal Entry Act,” Black’s bill would also mandate employers use the E-Verify system to ensure employees are in the country legally and allowed to work in the U.S. Additionally, it redirects funding from so-called sanctuary cities to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency.

    More at: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...tics+-+Text%29
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    Trump should build a high speed train with no stops from the Mexican border to Canada. It would be a fantastic train. The best train. A train that connects two great nations. The best train ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Trump should build a high speed train with no stops from the Mexican border to Canada. It would be a fantastic train. The best train. A train that connects two great nations. The best train ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    It's called an airplane. If the rest of your jokes are the same quality you can skip them.
    You should consider doing the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    First time offenders who come into the U.S. illegally are generally charged with a misdemeanor – but a new bill aims to change that.
    Legislation introduced by Rep. Diane Black, R-Tenn......

    Black is never anti-immigration unless she's running for something. In this case, she is running for governor of Tennessee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    First time offenders who come into the U.S. illegally are generally charged with a misdemeanor – but a new bill aims to change that.
    Legislation introduced by Rep. Diane Black, R-Tenn., Tuesday would make illegal entry into the U.S. a felony offense, something she said would act as a “disincentive” to people who are thinking of crossing the border.
    “The United States government should never prioritize illegal immigrants over American citizens,” Black said in a statement. “By no longer creating incentives to come to our country unlawfully, we also discourage families from sending their children on an often dangerous journey to reach our southern border.”


    A felony record would hinder an individual attempting to come into the U.S. legally as it would prevent that person from obtaining a green card, Black told Fox News.

    "We are a compassionate nation and we are a country filled with compassionate people. I've been abroad and I've seen the hardships that people go through, but we've got to have some kind of control and order," she said.

    Dubbed the “Zero Tolerance for Illegal Entry Act,” Black’s bill would also mandate employers use the E-Verify system to ensure employees are in the country legally and allowed to work in the U.S. Additionally, it redirects funding from so-called sanctuary cities to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency.

    More at: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...tics+-+Text%29
    Ahh, yes, and if passed, it would soon be a felony for Americans to leave the country.

    Such freedom.
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    And with a prison sentence in a US prison of at least a year and a day. If you’re concerned with costs it’d be better to have them on welfare. But most that make it through aren’t on welfare - they’re working and taking care of themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Ahh, yes, and if passed, it would soon be a felony for Americans to leave the country.

    Such freedom.
    Hmmm... I think you're on to something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    And with a prison sentence in a US prison of at least a year and a day. If you’re concerned with costs it’d be better to have them on welfare. But most that make it through aren’t on welfare - they’re working and taking care of themselves.
    A felon in jail costs us $70,000 a year. Illegal immigrants aren't even eligible for welfare so the costs would be considerably higher to taxpayers. And would do wonders for our court system. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...gration-courts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    A felon in jail costs us $70,000 a year. Illegal immigrants aren't even eligible for welfare so the costs would be considerably higher to taxpayers.
    But if we give them a year at "hard labor" building a wall then it's a win/win. It's all about de-incentivising.
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    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    But if we give them a year at "hard labor" building a wall then it's a win/win. It's all about de-incentivising.
    Maybe we could get Mexico to pay for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Maybe we could get Mexico to pay for that.
    We may just.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Maybe we could get Mexico to pay for that.
    Maybe if we help them build their southern border wall?
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Maybe if we help them build their southern border wall?
    Who will build our Asian wall? China? (Asia is now where most immigrants- legal and illegal- are coming from- not Mexico: China is now #1 and India #2) https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...growth/432603/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Who will build our Asian wall? China? (Asia is now where most immigrants- legal and illegal- are coming from- not Mexico: China is now #1 and India #2)
    We'll build it along the DPRKalifornia border.

    We can also shift ICE to the Port cities and coastal states when the land borders are secured.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Who will build our Asian wall? China? (Asia is now where most immigrants- legal and illegal- are coming from- not Mexico: China is now #1 and India #2) https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...growth/432603/
    Legal is fine. Everyone else needs to go through TSA like law abiding citizens.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.



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    <jerking_gesture> MOAR ILLEGAL! Yea, that's the problem. Its not illegal enough.

    The solution is very simple: de-incentivize. The problem fixes itself...

    Quit paying for their education, health-care, anchor babies, voting, etc. ...And fine the sh!t out their employers - use those fines to pay for any outstanding enforcement.

    They face a 20% death rate when coming over, and are happy to do so. They dont give 2 sh!ts about a felony charge - besides, who's going to enforce the law? Its already illegal - dems love voters and repubs love cheap labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Who will build our Asian wall? China? (Asia is now where most immigrants- legal and illegal- are coming from- not Mexico: China is now #1 and India #2) https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...growth/432603/
    We need to realize first who turned our workplaces into backstabbing gulags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Who will build our Asian wall? China? (Asia is now where most immigrants- legal and illegal- are coming from- not Mexico: China is now #1 and India #2) https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...growth/432603/
    I always knew those asians and indians would be a problem. As an example it is unsafe to drive in Bloomington near the University . All these Asians with high performance cars and they cannot drive . This is going to cause my insurance to go up . Giving these people a rickshaw with a V6 , bad idea.
    Last edited by oyarde; 07-11-2018 at 05:30 PM.
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