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    World's First Floating City with Own Government/Currency by 2022

    This is the future, although I would predict cities/communities on the Sea Floor are more viable/safe in the long term.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/671186...rrency-varyon/

    The floating town is the brainchild of the Seasteading Institute, a non-profit co-founded by tech billionaire Peter Thiel (who sits on Facebook's board and is a former adviser to US President Donald Trump).

    It's teaming up with a private entity called Blue Frontiers to build 300 houses on a seaborne platform off the island of Tahiti that will run under its own governance and boast its own money.

    Joe Quirk, who heads up both organisations, has also stressed the eco-friendly potential of the sci-fi project, which will tap huge solar panels and wind turbines for clean energy.

    "It would help people adjust to sea level rise, and experiment with voluntary governance," he previously said.

    "French Polynesia's concerned they may lose a third of their islands by the end of this century. Right next door is Kiribati, which is concerned it could completely disappear."

    Now, almost a decade after it was dreamed up, Seasteading has begun the rollout of its cryptocurrency dubbed "Varyon".

    Maybe it didn't get the memo that virtual currencies like Bitcoin are dying out.

    Nonetheless, presales for the Varyon token kicked off on Thursday, offering bonuses from 5% to 15%, and will end on July 14, according to Business Insider.

    There's no word on when the public can get on board, which could draw yet more ire from critics who previously slammed the idea as elitist and impractical.

    Varyon coins will be required for the purchasing of housing and building of new seasteads – Quirk once said that thousands of these floating nations will set sail by 2050.

    "Varyon may be used to pay Blue Frontiers for the registration of businesses, residency, and virtual residency in Blue Frontiers’ administered SeaZones," explains the company in a Medium post.

    "Varyon may be used to pay the major utilities provided by Blue Frontiers, such as electricity, cable services, sanitation services, etc.

    Over the next 50 years, we will see the birth of entirely new countries/territories at sea.... ideas like Voluntaryism, Anarchism, Libertarianism, will all have a chance to be proven/refined on the battlefield of ideas.
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    Maybe it didn't get the memo that virtual currencies like Bitcoin are dying out.
    LOL... bitcoin is worth 3 times what it was a year ago, 5 times what it was 15 months ago and 10 times what it was 2 years ago.. the author is a literal retard.
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    I hate to burst everybody's bubble here, but the sea is an even more intrusive prison than land is.

    There are, quite literally, tens of thousands of rules, regulations, fatwas, edicts and mandates that would govern such an idea.

    You would be under constant surveillance and monitoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I hate to burst everybody's bubble here, but the sea is an even more intrusive prison than land is.

    There are, quite literally, tens of thousands of rules, regulations, fatwas, edicts and mandates that would govern such an idea.

    You would be under constant surveillance and monitoring.

    Yeah $#@! that. No one owns the sea floor. I'd build an underwater city, patrol it with mad max firepowered patrol boats, and woe betide the creature that steps into my garden.....

    Don't burst my bubble, AF..... Don't you dare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Yeah $#@! that. No one owns the sea floor. I'd build an underwater city, patrol it with mad max firepowered patrol boats, and woe betide the creature that steps into my garden.....

    Don't burst my bubble, AF..... Don't you dare.
    My guess is that sea floor ownership ties in with mineral/oil ownership and offshore drilling. You'd need to be in international waters at which point, congratulations, you're only under international law now instead of both international and domestic law.


    Related, though, because Subnautica is awesome:


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    My guess is that sea floor ownership ties in with mineral/oil ownership and offshore drilling. You'd need to be in international waters at which point, congratulations, you're only under international law now instead of both international and domestic law.
    Then I will take Elon Musks rockets and colonize my own god damn rock somewhere, damnit
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Would be nice. I think that mankind needs a frontier.
    This...very much so.

    I am confounded...born too late to explore the earth, born too soon to explore the stars.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Would be nice. I think that mankind needs a frontier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I hate to burst everybody's bubble here, but the sea is an even more intrusive prison than land is.

    There are, quite literally, tens of thousands of rules, regulations, fatwas, edicts and mandates that would govern such an idea.

    You would be under constant surveillance and monitoring.
    Right, and when nation states don't like what you're doing within all those rules, they will $#@! with you anyways.


    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Yeah $#@! that. No one owns the sea floor. I'd build an underwater city, patrol it with mad max firepowered patrol boats, and woe betide the creature that steps into my garden.....

    Don't burst my bubble, AF..... Don't you dare.
    Patrol submarines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    This...very much so.

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    There won't be much space to get away from your neighbors so you had better get along. Also will probably have to rely heavily on imports for things like food. Peter Thiel has given up on the project himself.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/peter...ng-city-2017-1

    Tech billionaire Peter Thiel no longer thinks his dream of a floating libertarian utopia is realistic

    Peter Thiel has all but given up on his dream of a libertarian utopia in the middle of the ocean.

    In 2008, the billionaire venture capitalist and Trump transition team member launched a group on a mission to develop a floating city, called a seastead, that would serve as a permanent, politically autonomous settlement. He invested some $1.7 million in The Seasteading Institute, and resigned from its board in 2011.

    In a new interview with Maureen Dowd of The New York Times, Thiel dismissed floating cities as an improbable architectural feat.

    "They're not quite feasible from an engineering perspective," Thiel told The Times. "That's still very far in the future."

    During President-elect Donald Trump's roller coaster ride to the White House, Thiel emerged as Trump's most high-profile supporter in Silicon Valley. He gave $1.25 million to the campaign, stirring up controversy in the left-leaning tech capital of the world.

    As hints of a new Cold War ramp up, the concept of a seastead — a literal island unto itself — may have new appeal. The Seasteading Institute, at least, is soldiering on without Thiel.
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    “People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular,” Trump wrote, or at least his ghostwriter did. “I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration – and a very effective form of promotion.”

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    Floating cities on the water? Pfff how about floating cities in the sky?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Right, and when nation states don't like what you're doing within all those rules, they will $#@! with you anyways.
    Pretty much this...


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    I am probably better off where I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I am probably better off where I am.
    Injuns can't swim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Injuns can't swim?
    Not as easy for them to keep tabs on me here . They cannot read smoke signals . Logistics for resupply have better options to.
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