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    SF’s appalling street life repels residents — now it’s driven away a convention

    In a move that is alarming San Francisco’s biggest industry, a major medical association is pulling its annual convention out of the city — saying its members no longer feel safe.
    “It’s the first time that we have had an out-and-out cancellation over the issue, and this is a group that has been coming here every three or four years since the 1980s,” said Joe D’Alessandro, president and CEO of S.F. Travel, the city’s convention bureau.
    D’Alessandro declined to name the medical association, saying the bureau still hopes to bring the group back in the future.
    As a rule, major conventions book their visits at least five years in advance. So when D’Alessandro and members of the hospitality industry hadn’t heard from the doctors about re-upping, they flew to the organization’s Chicago headquarters for a face-to-face meeting with its executive board.


    And with good reason: The group’s annual five-day trade show draws 15,000 attendees and pumps about $40 million into the local economy.


    “They said that they are committed to this year and to 2023, but nothing in between or nothing thereafter,” D’Alessandro said. “After that, they told us they are planning to go elsewhere — I believe it’s Los Angeles.”


    The doctors group told the San Francisco delegation that while they loved the city, postconvention surveys showed their members were afraid to walk amid the open drug use, threatening behavior and mental illness that are common on the streets.


    It didn’t help that one board member had been assaulted near Moscone Center last year.

    More at: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matie...=0c15a3045e&f?
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    A foul odor permeated from a massive bag of human excrement sludge left on a street corner in San Francisco's Tenderloin district Saturday.
    The horrendous smell and sight quickly gained notoriety when a Reddit user posted a screen shot of a report made to San Francisco's Citizen app for identifying crimes.
    "Twenty pounds of feces dumped onto sidewalk," the report called out.
    Nancy Alfaro, a spokesperson for 311, says three reports of the human waste at the corner of Cedar and Polk were made to the city's customer service number and app on Saturday.
    "The customers did report a large amount of waste," Alfaro says. "It was sent to Public Works."

    More at: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/artic...t-13044317.php
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    So what is Los Angeles doing that San Francisco isn't if apparently conditions are better there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    A foul odor permeated from a massive bag of human excrement sludge left on a street corner in San Francisco's Tenderloin district Saturday.
    More at: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/artic...t-13044317.php
    That's criminal! San Francisco banned plastic bags!


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    Quote Originally Posted by VIDEODROME View Post
    So what is Los Angeles doing that San Francisco isn't if apparently conditions are better there?
    People don't walk around in LA as much.. things tend to be a little more spread out. Uber may have been a bigger hit in the Bay because more people use public transit there, in LA everybody has a car and drives everywhere. SF is more like New York in that sense.
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    They must be racists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    People don't walk around in LA as much.. things tend to be a little more spread out. Uber may have been a bigger hit in the Bay because more people use public transit there, in LA everybody has a car and drives everywhere. SF is more like New York in that sense.
    Exactly, probably the same amount of filth and human excrement but people are insulated from it with the windows and locked doors of their vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Exactly, probably the same amount of filth and human excrement but people are insulated from it with the windows and locked doors of their vehicles.
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    Not far away, is the LA Convention Center

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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Gridlock, no parking, filthy bums and hoodlums on public transit, bums and panhandlers on the streets, constant car break-ins and petty harassment and assault. It's a socialist paradise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VIDEODROME View Post
    So what is Los Angeles doing that San Francisco isn't if apparently conditions are better there?
    Free bus tickets to San Diego for the homeless

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    Over 16,000 complaints have been logged with the City of San Francisco regarding ‘feces’ in the last seven days.
    A website and related app that allows local residents to request maintenance or non-emergency services from the city has received 16,015 complaints with the keyword ‘feces’ in the last week at the time of this writing, and many pertain to human waste in public places.
    Additionally, words and phrases synonymous with ‘feces’ are found in thousands more grievances.
    Many of the complaints also connect the fecal matter to vagrants and homeless encampments - a sight all too common now across California.
    Users can geotag the location in question, and also provide photos to support their claim.
    “Homeless encampment is blocking sidewalk and creates a health hazard w trash and feces,” writes one user. “Please move them, and send a cleaning crew. Sidewalk is impassable, forcing pedestrians into the street.”
    “Homeless individuals sleeping along Funston between Clement and Geary,” writes another user. 
“Observed homeless people shooting up at 5pm on Monday, July 2nd. Lots of feces and garbage in the area. Please clean up area and see if homeless individuals need services.”


    In April, the International Union of Operating Engineers filed a complaint with the California Department of Transportation on behalf of Caltrans workers, alleging that their safety was being jeopardized due to a variety of factors, including human waste produced by vagrants living near freeways and associated property.
    "Feces and urine and feminine products and all kinds of things on the ground; needles, syringes - you know they use buckets, five-gallon buckets for toilets, and it gets really disgusting," said Steve Crouch, Director of Public Employees.

    More at: https://newswars.com/san-francisco-l...ts-in-one-week
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    How long do you have to save up your $#@! to get a bag of crap like that ?

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    A full-page ad taken out in the San Francisco Chronicle on Friday.

    More at: http://www.businessinsider.com/san-f...page-ad-2018-7
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    How long do you have to save up your $#@! to get a bag of crap like that ?
    No doubt. Are they saving it and bagging it or they $#@!ting in the bag and dropping it when it's full?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    No doubt. Are they saving it and bagging it or they $#@!ting in the bag and dropping it when it's full?
    I'm guessing they lined a five gallon bucket with the bag and when it was full...$#@! canned it on the street.

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    Bunch of racists up in here...everybody knows indoor plumbing is a tool of the white devils used to oppress people of color around the world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I'm guessing they lined a five gallon bucket with the bag and when it was full...$#@! canned it on the street.
    So the person or persons responsible for the had the wherewithal to procure a 5 gallon bucket and liners and then carry the to another location but couldn't bother to just go in a toilet? SMDH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    So the person or persons responsible for the had the wherewithal to procure a 5 gallon bucket and liners and then carry the to another location but couldn't bother to just go in a toilet? SMDH
    I'm going to assume so...but it is just speculation on my part.

    Old fishing vessels had nothing but a five gallon bucket and toilet seat to $#@! in.

    But it worked better without a liner...dump overboard and rinse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post


    A full-page ad taken out in the San Francisco Chronicle on Friday.

    More at: http://www.businessinsider.com/san-f...page-ad-2018-7
    There's nothing like sitting in a cafe next to the street when a filthy bum with crotch-less pants and no underwear walks up to ask if you are going to eat that...
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    The new Mayor of San Francisco, London Breed, is beside herself at the abject squalor resulting from decades of "progressive" policies that encourage homeless residents to use the streets as their personal toilet.

    In an interview with local station NBC Bay Area, Breed acknowledged that the poo-coated city she was born and raised in has a "huge problem" she aims to clean up.
    "I will say there is more feces on the sidewalks than I’ve ever seen growing up here," Breed said. "That is a huge problem and we are not just talking about from dogs — we’re talking about from humans."
    Unfortunately, her solution is to simply ask the city's estimated 7,500 vagrants to kindly stop with all the street-squatting and clean up after themselves. Considering that 39% of homeless surveyed in San Francisco's "homeless census" claim to have mental health issues, we're not entirely sure how this policy will work.
    When pressed about whether her plan calls for harsher penalties against those who litter or defecate on city streets, Breed said "I didn’t express anything about a penalty." Instead, the mayor said she has encouraged nonprofits "to talk to their clients, who, unfortunately, were mostly responsible for the conditions of our streets." -NBC Bay Area
    "I work hard to make sure your programs are funded for the purposes of trying to get these individuals help, and what I am asking you to do is work with your clients and ask them to at least have respect for the community — at least, clean up after themselves and show respect to one another and people in the neighborhood," Breed told NBC, referencing her conversations with nonprofit groups aimed at serving the homeless.
    San Francisco's "huge problem" isn't restricted to poo either - the city is full of drug addicts who are more or less allowed to just do their thing. On Friday, two days after Breed was sworn into office, she went on a jaunt around the city in an afternoon stroll, where a guy was literally prepping to shoot up as she walked past.
    #SanFrancisco Mayor @LondonBreed tours the reality of the city first hand on an afternoon stroll. The man in the video preps a needle as the mayor walks by. @nbcbayarea pic.twitter.com/Ziq0JwS8wF
    — Josue Kevin Duran (@josuekduran) July 13, 2018
    San Francisco will spend around $280 million this year on homeless housing and services - roughly 40% higher than the city spent five years ago. Meanwhile, the number of homeless has remained more or less steady at 7,500.
    The city spent $65 million in 2017 on street cleaning, and will boost that by $13 million over the next two years.

    "I don’t think that the city is poorly spending what it already has," Breed said. "I spend a lot of time on Fillmore Street. I see the people who are part of a program, out there power washing. They’re out there doing what they can to keep the community clean, almost every day, and then right after they leave, maybe an hour or two later, the place is filled with trash again."


    A recent NBC Bay Area investigation into the alarming volume of trash, drug needles and fecal matter around a 153-block area of San Francisco revealed "trash on every block, 100 needles, and more than 300 piles of feces along the 20-mile stretch of streets and sidewalks."

    As the Investigative Unit photographed nearly a dozen hypodermic needles scattered across one block, a group of preschool students happened to walk by on their way to an afternoon field trip to city hall.
    “We see poop, we see pee, we see needles, and we see trash,” said teacher Adelita Orellana. “Sometimes they ask what is it, and that’s a conversation that’s a little difficult to have with a 2-year old, but we just let them know that those things are full of germs, that they are dangerous, and they should never be touched.” -NBC Bay Area




    Last month we reported on an Australian couple visiting the city who were shocked by what they saw after deciding to walk back to their hotel:
    "Is this normal or am I in a 'bad part of town?' Just walked past numerous homeless off their faces, screaming and running all over the sidewalk near Twitter HQ and then a murder scene. Wife is scared to leave hotel now," reads a Wednesday posting by Reddit user /u/nashtendo.

    It was my wife that was scared and it was partly the mass of concentrated, drug affected homeless mixed with a guy being rolled into an ambulance dead. -/u/nashtendo
    "We did La and Nyc on this trip too. Both felt safer," he said later in the thread, adding "Syringes were visible, people were staggering, others had wide aggressive eyes. 'Off their faces' might be an Australian thing (sorry) but I meant just visibly drug affected."
    Another Reddit user replied:
    It's pretty normal. I'm honestly hoping tourists will realize how $#@!ty this city has become and stop coming. Maybe the loss of income will finally push the city to stop allowing the rampant drug dealing and homeless people treating the entire city like their toilet. You would think a city that depends so heavily on tourism and conventions for the bulk of their income would put more effort into maintaining a certain standard, but there is rampant drug dealing out in the open in some of the most heavily tourist areas. The city know about it, they just don't care. -/u/SgtPeanutbutter
    "You see things on the streets that are just not humane," Kevin Carroll, executive director of the Hotel Council of San Francisco told The Chronicle's Heather Knight in April. "People come into hotels saying, 'What is going on out there?' They're just shocked. ... People say, 'I love your city, I love your restaurants, but I'll never come back.'"
    Complicating matters is the fact that the city distributes nearly 5 million needles each year through various programs aimed at reducing HIV and other health risks for drug users who might otherwise share needles.
    The city distributes an estimated 400,000 syringes each month through various programs aimed at reducing HIV and other health risks for drug users. About 246,000 syringes are discarded through the city's 13 syringe access and disposal sites. But thousands of the others end up on streets, in parks and other public areas... -AP
    While syringes discarded in public areas have become a nationwide problem amid a growing opium crisis, the problem in population-dense San Francisco (about 50 square miles) is much more noticeable given the city's growing homeless population. Last year there were 9,500 requests by residents for needle pick-ups by the city. So far this year, there have been 3,700 requests.
    And again, Mayor Breed's new plan is to have nonprofit homeless outreach organizations simply ask vagrants to stop kindly refrain from evacuating their bowels in the street - something we're guessing the drug-addled segment of San Francisco's homeless population might not remember halfway through a bender.
    Breed is also planning to open a string of new "safe drug injection sites," which would include booths where drug users can inject drugs, as well as so-called "chill rooms" where they can ride out their highs in a safe environment.
    “While there’s an amazing amount of support already in place for these kinds of facilities, there’s still a need to bring in the community as a whole, and that’s why we support a project like this,” said a spokesman for Glide Memorial Methodist Church in the Tenderloin, Robert Avila, to the SF Chronicle.
    “It’s about getting people off the street, from shooting up publicly and getting needles off the streets,” said Mayor. “These places provide a location for people to be when they’re going through what they’re going through after they shoot up.”
    We hope to God there are toilets.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...-ive-ever-seen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The new Mayor of San Francisco, London Breed, is beside herself at the abject squalor resulting from decades of "progressive" policies that encourage homeless residents to use the streets as their personal toilet.

    In an interview with local station NBC Bay Area, Breed acknowledged that the poo-coated city she was born and raised in has a "huge problem" she aims to clean up.
    "I will say there is more feces on the sidewalks than I’ve ever seen growing up here," Breed said. "That is a huge problem and we are not just talking about from dogs — we’re talking about from humans."
    Unfortunately, her solution is to simply ask the city's estimated 7,500 vagrants to kindly stop with all the street-squatting and clean up after themselves. Considering that 39% of homeless surveyed in San Francisco's "homeless census" claim to have mental health issues, we're not entirely sure how this policy will work.
    When pressed about whether her plan calls for harsher penalties against those who litter or defecate on city streets, Breed said "I didn’t express anything about a penalty." Instead, the mayor said she has encouraged nonprofits "to talk to their clients, who, unfortunately, were mostly responsible for the conditions of our streets." -NBC Bay Area
    "I work hard to make sure your programs are funded for the purposes of trying to get these individuals help, and what I am asking you to do is work with your clients and ask them to at least have respect for the community — at least, clean up after themselves and show respect to one another and people in the neighborhood," Breed told NBC, referencing her conversations with nonprofit groups aimed at serving the homeless.
    San Francisco's "huge problem" isn't restricted to poo either - the city is full of drug addicts who are more or less allowed to just do their thing. On Friday, two days after Breed was sworn into office, she went on a jaunt around the city in an afternoon stroll, where a guy was literally prepping to shoot up as she walked past.
    #SanFrancisco Mayor @LondonBreed tours the reality of the city first hand on an afternoon stroll. The man in the video preps a needle as the mayor walks by. @nbcbayarea pic.twitter.com/Ziq0JwS8wF
    — Josue Kevin Duran (@josuekduran) July 13, 2018
    San Francisco will spend around $280 million this year on homeless housing and services - roughly 40% higher than the city spent five years ago. Meanwhile, the number of homeless has remained more or less steady at 7,500.
    The city spent $65 million in 2017 on street cleaning, and will boost that by $13 million over the next two years.

    "I don’t think that the city is poorly spending what it already has," Breed said. "I spend a lot of time on Fillmore Street. I see the people who are part of a program, out there power washing. They’re out there doing what they can to keep the community clean, almost every day, and then right after they leave, maybe an hour or two later, the place is filled with trash again."


    A recent NBC Bay Area investigation into the alarming volume of trash, drug needles and fecal matter around a 153-block area of San Francisco revealed "trash on every block, 100 needles, and more than 300 piles of feces along the 20-mile stretch of streets and sidewalks."
    As the Investigative Unit photographed nearly a dozen hypodermic needles scattered across one block, a group of preschool students happened to walk by on their way to an afternoon field trip to city hall.
    “We see poop, we see pee, we see needles, and we see trash,” said teacher Adelita Orellana. “Sometimes they ask what is it, and that’s a conversation that’s a little difficult to have with a 2-year old, but we just let them know that those things are full of germs, that they are dangerous, and they should never be touched.” -NBC Bay Area




    Last month we reported on an Australian couple visiting the city who were shocked by what they saw after deciding to walk back to their hotel:
    "Is this normal or am I in a 'bad part of town?' Just walked past numerous homeless off their faces, screaming and running all over the sidewalk near Twitter HQ and then a murder scene. Wife is scared to leave hotel now," reads a Wednesday posting by Reddit user /u/nashtendo.
    It was my wife that was scared and it was partly the mass of concentrated, drug affected homeless mixed with a guy being rolled into an ambulance dead. -/u/nashtendo
    "We did La and Nyc on this trip too. Both felt safer," he said later in the thread, adding "Syringes were visible, people were staggering, others had wide aggressive eyes. 'Off their faces' might be an Australian thing (sorry) but I meant just visibly drug affected."
    Another Reddit user replied:
    It's pretty normal. I'm honestly hoping tourists will realize how $#@!ty this city has become and stop coming. Maybe the loss of income will finally push the city to stop allowing the rampant drug dealing and homeless people treating the entire city like their toilet. You would think a city that depends so heavily on tourism and conventions for the bulk of their income would put more effort into maintaining a certain standard, but there is rampant drug dealing out in the open in some of the most heavily tourist areas. The city know about it, they just don't care. -/u/SgtPeanutbutter
    "You see things on the streets that are just not humane," Kevin Carroll, executive director of the Hotel Council of San Francisco told The Chronicle's Heather Knight in April. "People come into hotels saying, 'What is going on out there?' They're just shocked. ... People say, 'I love your city, I love your restaurants, but I'll never come back.'"
    Complicating matters is the fact that the city distributes nearly 5 million needles each year through various programs aimed at reducing HIV and other health risks for drug users who might otherwise share needles.
    The city distributes an estimated 400,000 syringes each month through various programs aimed at reducing HIV and other health risks for drug users. About 246,000 syringes are discarded through the city's 13 syringe access and disposal sites. But thousands of the others end up on streets, in parks and other public areas... -AP
    While syringes discarded in public areas have become a nationwide problem amid a growing opium crisis, the problem in population-dense San Francisco (about 50 square miles) is much more noticeable given the city's growing homeless population. Last year there were 9,500 requests by residents for needle pick-ups by the city. So far this year, there have been 3,700 requests.
    And again, Mayor Breed's new plan is to have nonprofit homeless outreach organizations simply ask vagrants to stop kindly refrain from evacuating their bowels in the street - something we're guessing the drug-addled segment of San Francisco's homeless population might not remember halfway through a bender.
    Breed is also planning to open a string of new "safe drug injection sites," which would include booths where drug users can inject drugs, as well as so-called "chill rooms" where they can ride out their highs in a safe environment.
    “While there’s an amazing amount of support already in place for these kinds of facilities, there’s still a need to bring in the community as a whole, and that’s why we support a project like this,” said a spokesman for Glide Memorial Methodist Church in the Tenderloin, Robert Avila, to the SF Chronicle.
    “It’s about getting people off the street, from shooting up publicly and getting needles off the streets,” said Mayor. “These places provide a location for people to be when they’re going through what they’re going through after they shoot up.”
    We hope to God there are toilets.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...-ive-ever-seen
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    San Francisco authorities have finally decided to do something about the vast amounts of vagrant-generated feces covering its streets, after thousands of feces complaints, the cancellation of a major medical convention and an outraged new Mayor, London Breed, who was absolutely shocked after walking through her city.
    "I will say there is more feces on the sidewalks than I’ve ever seen growing up here," Breed said last month. "That is a huge problem and we are not just talking about from dogs — we’re talking about from humans."

    While Breed's solution in July was to kindly ask homeless people to stop dropping deuces on public walkways, her way better idea is the "Poop Patrol" which she cooked up with Public Works director Mohammed Nuru. The patrol will consist of a team of five staffers who will don protective gear and patrol the alleys around Polk Street and other "brown zones" in search of everything from hepatitis-laden Hershey squirts to worm-infested-logs. At the Poop Patrol's disposal will be a special vehicle equipped with a steam cleaner and disinfectant.

    The team's will begin their shifts in the afternoon, spotting and cleaning piles of feces before the city receives complaints.
    We’re trying to be proactive,” explained Public Works director Mohammed Nuru. “We’re actually out there looking for it.”

    We’re all out there looking for it, our eyes trained on the sidewalks as we walk so as to avoid that awful squishy feeling.
    I admit to giggling when Nuru told me about plans for the Poop Patrol the other day. But in a city where people called 311 to report feces a whopping 14,597 times between Jan. 1 and Monday morning, public piles of poop are serious business.
    For the record, that’s about 65 calls regarding sidewalk poop every day. And it’s 2,427 more calls on the stinky subject than were made in the same time period last year.
    The Poop Patrol idea sprung from conversations between Nuru and Mayor London Breed, both of whom have expressed disgust with the filthy conditions of our sidewalks. -SF Chronicle
    “I’ve been talking to the Department of Public Works director on a regular basis, and I’m like, ‘What are we going to do about the poop?’” Breed told the SF Chronicle'sHeather Knight, who noted that it was the "first conversation I’ve ever had with a mayor that included the word “poop.”"

    Breed has also committed $1.05 million of the city's giant $11.5 billion budget to construct five new Pit Stop public toilets, while expanding operating hours at five existing locations out of the city's 22 total.
    Doniece Sandoval is the founder of Lava Mae, which provides mobile shower stalls and toilets to homeless people around San Francisco, Oakland and Los Angeles. She got the idea after learning San Francisco had a measly 16 shower stalls for homeless people.
    “We need our streets cleaned up, so I love that they’re doing the Poop Patrol,” she said, giggling at the name like I did. “But there’s no doubt about the fact that we need more public bathrooms. Everywhere we can, we need to make them available. For our unhoused neighbors and everyone in the city, when you need to be able to find a facility, it shouldn’t be this massive challenge.” -SF Chronicle

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ered-sidewalks
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  30. #26
    If only they could train humans not to $#@! in the street.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    If only they could train humans not to $#@! in the street.
    Not going to happen .
    Do something Danke

  32. #28
    We wish we could say this was a satire piece, but a new story in the San Francisco Chronicle reveals just how lucrative collecting $#@! actually is.
    It's but the latest in a string of shocking revelations to hit headlines throughout the summer exposing how deep San Francisco's crisis of vast amounts of vagrant-generated feces covering its public streets actually runs (no pun intended).
    We detailed last week how city authorities have finally decided to do something after thousands of feces complaints (during only one week in July, over 16,000 were recorded), the cancellation of a major medical convention and an outraged new Mayor, London Breed, who was absolutely shocked after walking through her city: they established a professional "poop patrol".


    As described when the city initially unveiled the plan, the patrol will consist of a team of five staffers donning protective gear and patrol the alleys around Polk Street and other "brown zones" in search of everything from hepatitis-laden Hershey squirts to worm-infested-logs. At the Poop Patrol's disposal will be a special vehicle equipped with a steam cleaner and disinfectant.
    The teams will begin their shifts in the afternoon, spotting and cleaning piles of feces before the city receives complaints in order "to be proactive" in the words of the Public Works director Mohammed Nuru, co-creator of the poop patrol initiative.
    While at first glance it doesn't sound like the type of job people will be knocking down human resources doors to apply for, the SF Chronicle has revealed just how much each member of this apparently elite "poop patrol" team will cost the city: $184,678 in salary and benefits.


    The surprisingly high figure is buried in the middle of the SF Chronicle's story on Mayor London Breed's morning walks along downtown streets with her staff, unannounced beforehand to her police force and department heads so she can view firsthand what common citizens endure on a daily basis.
    After quoting Mayor Breed, who acknowledges, “We’re spending a lot of money to address this problem,” the following San Francisco Public Works budget items are presented:

    • A $72.5 million-a-year street cleaning budget
    • $12 million a year on what essentially have become housekeeping services for homeless encampments
    • $2.8 million for a Hot Spots crew to wash down the camps and remove any biohazards
    • $2.3 million for street steam cleaners
    • $3.1 million for the Pit Stop portable toilets
    • $364,000 for a four-member needle team
    • An additional $700,000 set aside for a 10-member, needle cleanup squad, complete with it’s own minivan

    And crucially, there's now "the new $830,977-a-year Poop Patrol to actively hunt down and clean up human waste."
    The SF Chronicle casually notes in parenthesis, "By the way, the poop patrolers earn $71,760 a year, which swells to $184,678 with mandated benefits."


    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...rs-make-185000
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

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    Alexis de Torqueville

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  33. #29
    Taxi drivers at the San Francisco airport have been put on notice to kindly stop urinating and dropping deuces in the taxi parking lot, reports The Daily Mail.

    Furious airport officials have written an open letter to cabbies warning them to stop using the parking lot as a bathroom, as "Failing to use the appropriate facility will not be tolerated."
    The letter from Seth Morgan, a senior transportation planner at SFO, said: 'Airport staff have noticed an increased rate of urination and defecation in the rear of SFO Taxi Lot #3 and nearby stairwells.' -Daily Mail
    "This creates a highly unsanitary condition and a health hazard for SFO custodians and other staff handling the materials stored in these areas," continues the letter.

    "Violaters are subject to suspensions, fines and/or arrest," reads the notice.



    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...refuse-poo-loo
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  34. #30
    Flush toilets are the worst use of water. We take perfectly clean drinking water and contaminate it with urine and feces so we can filter it out and give it back to the people to drink.

    Compost with wood shavings. No flies, no smell, no chemicals, no water, simply organic.

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