Immigration To The United States Is A "Human Right"

[aGameOfThrones]

So what he has to say is likely to become the official policy of the Mexican government in the very near future, and that is quite frightening because he is a crazed radical leftist and an extremely bold proponent of illegal immigration to the United States. As I wrote about yesterday, Mexico has begun the process of a complete and total societal meltdown, and right now chaos reigns supreme along the U.S.-Mexico border. It would be extremely helpful to have a Mexican president that would be committed to restoring order along the border, but instead AMLO has boldly declared that immigration to the United States is a “human right” and he is encouraging more immigrants to start pouring into the U.S. illegally…

Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States during a speech Tuesday declaring it a “human right we will defend” for all North Americans.

“And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...es-human-right

[Swordsmyth]

Many on this site agree.

This is a declaration of war.

[Swordsmyth]

Mexican legislators this week proposed ending cooperation with the US on immigration, counterterrorism, and fighting organized crime "as long as President Donald Trump does not act with the respect that migrants deserve."
The proposal was made on Wednesday by the Mexican Congress' Permanent Commission, which meets while Congress is in recess, and asks the executive branch to "consider the possibility of withdrawing from any bilateral cooperation scheme" with the US on those issues.
Mexican legislators called on their US counterparts to "end the inhumane and criminal action of separating migrant families, taking into account the best interests of the children and giving priority to the respect of human rights."

While announcing the proposal, Ernesto Cordero Arroyo, a senator for the conservative National Action Party, said the US "is a partner, allied in diverse causes and a friend that doesn't deserve a government like that of Donald Trump," adding that Mexico would not support a country that "systematically violates human rights and that doesn't have respect for the life and dignity of people."


Cordero said Trump "incentivizes and defends a discourse of hate inside and outside of his country," encouraging racists groups and generating stereotypes of minorities, and that the US president has started a "trade war" through tariffs and rejected international cooperation, citing the US's withdrawal from the Paris climate accord.
Other Mexican officials have criticized Trump's immigration policy. Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray, who has developed a close relationship with Trump's son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner, condemned the separation policy as "cruel and inhumane" on Tuesday.

Victor Manuel Giorgana — the president of the foreign-relations committee in Mexico's lower house and a member of the governing Institutional Revolutionary Party — said Trump had not done enough to protect migrant children and that Trump only backed down in order further his political agenda, namely securing funding for a border wall.


"The situation didn't change in any way, except that [the children] are not separated," he told newspaper Milenio, adding that those children would still be held in "inhumane" conditions.
The senate commission's proposal is not the first of its kind.
In a nonbinding resolution approved earlier this year, Mexican senators condemned Trump's decision to deploy troops to the US-Mexico border, where several thousand are still stationed in limited roles.
In that resolution, senators urged Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto to suspend bilateral cooperation with the US "on matters of migration and the fight against transnational organized crime as long as President Donald Trump does not conduct himself with the civility and the respect that the people of Mexico deserve."

More at: http://www.businessinsider.com/mexic...-policy-2018-6

Put troops on the border now, declare war if necessary and then take up a defensive posture.

[AuH20]

Real pieces of garbage declaring someone else's property theirs. This is glorious.

[timosman]

They just repeat US leftists talking points.

[Brian4Liberty]

They just repeat US leftists talking points.

Partners in communist reconquista.

[Brian4Liberty]

Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States

Some Presidential candidate. "Vote for me, I want you all to leave the country."

Although this may be a play on a Trump campaign slogan. "We will have socialism, and the Americans will pay for it!"

[Pauls' Revere]

So, I don't get it. Why go to another country? Instead, recreate Mexico into a country based on American principles? wtf?

and, since he has made this declaration isn't he essentially telling them to do so. You have a right to Liberty, etc.. just not here in Mexico. Unless Mexico turns itself inside out.

[timosman]

So, I don't get it. Why go to another country? Instead, recreate Mexico into a country based on American principles? wtf?

Yankees stole all our wealth. We need to take it back.

[Swordsmyth]

So, I don't get it. Why go to another country? Instead, recreate Mexico into a country based on American principles? wtf?

They want Mexico the way it is with America's wealth, they will either take America's wealth back to Mexico or turn America into Mexico.

It won't last long either way but they don't understand that.

[euphemia]

Of course it's a human right. To everyone. A just immigration policy would have one law governing all. One standard. Who knows? The next Swiss research scientist here for grad school might just discover a cure for AIDS. They should not have to pay thousands of dollars and wait years fro a green card so they can have actual jobs.

[VIDEODROME]

So, I don't get it. Why go to another country? Instead, recreate Mexico into a country based on American principles? wtf?

and, since he has made this declaration isn't he essentially telling them to do so. You have a right to Liberty, etc.. just not here in Mexico. Unless Mexico turns itself inside out.

It does seem like a nationally embarrassing stance to have.

Nudging the Mexican people to pursue a direction like this could backfire horribly. Will they be exploited by smugglers or will more semi-truck trailers full of dead Mexicans turn up?

Even if they make it here they'll probably get crap wages or regularly threatened by employers to work or be turned in for deportation.

[Swordsmyth]

Of course it's a human right. To everyone. A just immigration policy would have one law governing all. One standard. Who knows? The next Swiss research scientist here for grad school might just discover a cure for AIDS. They should not have to pay thousands of dollars and wait years fro a green card so they can have actual jobs.

No, it is not a human right, we have a right to limit who comes here to protect out political culture and thereby our rights.

[aGameOfThrones]

Because Mexico is a $#@!hole?

[Schifference]

We need a wall. We need a big wall. The biggest best most awesome wall.

[AuH20]

Of course it's a human right. To everyone. A just immigration policy would have one law governing all. One standard. Who knows? The next Swiss research scientist here for grad school might just discover a cure for AIDS. They should not have to pay thousands of dollars and wait years fro a green card so they can have actual jobs.

Until you introduce the welfare state. That's where it becomes an abomination.

[Swordsmyth]

Until you introduce the welfare state. That's where it becomes an abomination.

It still isn't a human right without the welfare state.

[Schifference]

Put all illegals that cross the southern border into a floatable device and put them in the water a couple hundred yards off a Mexican shore. Keep families together.

[parocks]

Declare War, take 10 miles of Mexico running along the border, and then there is 10 miles of "do not enter, war zone" where everyone gets shot - or not. But whatever it is, the migrants stay in Mexico. Ship them home immediately. Whatever, no US for you.

We have endless $#@!ty war in the Middle East, for no point except that we want those countries to all have hand picked by Israel leaders.

Maybe we take all the soldiers out of the Middle East and put them on the border.

[oyarde]

Since the dawn of time there has not been a real "right" to invite yourself somewhere you are not desired .

[VIDEODROME]

Not being serious here, but sometimes I wonder what would happen if we set aside space and just took in all of them. Just put up a big sign that says "All Mexicans Welcome". Just come in and get passed through the gate after some vetting for criminals or drug dealers, but basically take all their decent citizens. There wouldn't be a need for them to send earned money back home either because their family would all be here.

If we cut the crap in the Middle East, could we afford to soak up the best of Mexico's population leaving the rest of that country to the Drug Cartels and organized crime basically accelerating things until the place crumbles around this new President? Take them all in and turn Mexico inside out. Maybe even encourage all the displaced Syrians to move to Mexico.

Again, not a serious policy proposal, just an amusing thought. It would be like killing them with kindness.

[Swordsmyth]

Not being serious here, but sometimes I wonder what would happen if we set aside space and just took in all of them. Just put up a big sign that says "All Mexicans Welcome". Just come in and get passed through the gate after some vetting for criminals or drug dealers, but basically take all their decent citizens. There wouldn't be a need for them to send earned money back home either because their family would all be here.

If we cut the crap in the Middle East, could we afford to soak up the best of Mexico's population leaving the rest of that country to the Drug Cartels and organized crime basically accelerating things until the place crumbles around this new President? Take them all in and turn Mexico inside out. Maybe even encourage all the displaced Syrians to move to Mexico.

Again, not a serious policy proposal, just an amusing thought. It would be like killing them with kindness.

They would vote Demoncrat and turn us into a communist country.

[VIDEODROME]

They would vote Demoncrat and turn us into a communist country.

I'm not saying technically to make them full Citizens, but with that many yeah there could be voter shenanigans.

Also, I'm not sure all Mexicans are Leftists. I think many could be Social Conservatives.

Again though, for some reason I just think out would be amusing to suck out their population and let Mexico as a nation shrivel up and waste away. Perhaps to be later rebuilt after the Drug Dealers kill eachother off.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm not saying technically to make them full Citizens, but with that many yeah there could be voter shenanigans.

With that many let in the Demoncrats would not only help them vote illegally, they would start a campaign to grant them all citizenship.
I can hear it now: "Republican racists want to keep brown people down as second class humans, end apartheid!"

Also, I'm not sure all Mexicans are Leftists. I think many could be Social Conservatives.

The communist in the OP is way ahead in the polls down there, even the social conservatives are socialists.
It doesn't take all of them either, we are at risk from our own Demoncrats turning us into a communist country already.

Again though, for some reason I just think out would be amusing to suck out their population and let Mexico as a nation shrivel up and waste away. Perhaps to be later rebuilt after the Drug Dealers kill eachother off.

It is a funny idea.

[timosman]

Why would anyone, on the receiving end of this, want more competition?

[A Son of Liberty]

Since the dawn of time there has not been a real "right" to invite yourself somewhere you are not desired .

People have no right to encroach upon private property without the permission of the owner.

That's not in dispute.

How does your statement jive with that truth, exactly? I don't think it does...

[oyarde]

People have no right to encroach upon private property without the permission of the owner.

That's not in dispute.

How does your statement jive with that truth, exactly? I don't think it does...

My statement is the truth .

[Pauls' Revere]

I'm not saying technically to make them full Citizens, but with that many yeah there could be voter shenanigans.

Also, I'm not sure all Mexicans are Leftists. I think many could be Social Conservatives.

Again though, for some reason I just think out would be amusing to suck out their population and let Mexico as a nation shrivel up and waste away. Perhaps to be later rebuilt after the Drug Dealers kill eachother off.

I see your proposal now! Wow that's clever! So, we take them in through a vetting process and sit back and watch Mexico destroy itself from the inside out between Drug Cartels and a corrupt military junta. Then, when the Mexican civil war begins we watch as they kill themselves by the thousands and then in the name of National Security and stability in this hemisphere we have to intervene. In doing so we then establish an interim government monitored by the UN until free and democratic elections can take place. Of course we place candidates that support our government on the list of possible candidates and establish a government like Bautista in Cuba. Then, Mexico revolts against that US puppet government and gets backing from Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, Iran and possibly China. At this point they have gone full retard and become a communist state. Trumps idea of wall becomes prophetic and he goes down as one of the greatest presidents ever to have lived. Guard towers now stand at the ready with orders to kill on sight anyone crossing the border from either direction. It becomes the new DMZ and most heavily fortified borders in the world.

Something like that?

[spudea]

Nope. Nations have borders and laws. Any person that doesn't follow our laws does not have a right to immigrate here.

[timosman]

Nope. Nations have borders and laws. Any person that doesn't follow our laws does not have a right to immigrate here.

Reading Catch 22 should be mandatory for all new citizens.